Parallel to Sata converters (will they provide any benefit, to current slowdowns when using optical drives)?

I was pondering converting my 2 internal Optical drives to SATA, using
very inexpensive converters... Mainly because currently, if I'm doing
writing to a disc or even copying from them, the machine.. here a Dual
Core 2 1.86 GHZ with 2 GB ram and vista, begins to act very slowly
while in use, due to the bus/interface issues, compared to SATA speeds,
I'm assuming.

I have them both on seperate IDE channels as it is.. so I'm wondering
if there would be any benefit by doing the converters? IE: I know the
converters are going to give me sata speeds with an optical drive, but
would they free up the bottlenecks of in use issues and the OS?

Anyone tried it and know if there is a difference?

Thanks

markm75 wrote:

I was pondering converting my 2 internal Optical drives to
SATA, using very inexpensive converters... Mainly because
currently, if I'm doing writing to a disc or even copying from
them, the machine.. here a Dual Core 2 1.86 GHZ with 2 GB
ram and vista, begins to act very slowly while in use, due to the
bus/interface issues, compared to SATA speeds, I'm assuming.

Nope, it will be due to something else. IDE speeds are fine for that.

I have them both on seperate IDE channels as it is.. so I'm
wondering if there would be any benefit by doing the converters?

Unlikely.

IE: I know the converters are going to give me sata speeds with an optical
drive, but would they free up the bottlenecks of in use issues and the OS?

Unlikely.

Anyone tried it and know if there is a difference?

Most dont get the effect you are getting.

Rod Speed wrote:
markm75 wrote:

I was pondering converting my 2 internal Optical drives to
SATA, using very inexpensive converters... Mainly because
currently, if I'm doing writing to a disc or even copying from
them, the machine.. here a Dual Core 2 1.86 GHZ with 2 GB
ram and vista, begins to act very slowly while in use, due to the
bus/interface issues, compared to SATA speeds, I'm assuming.

Nope, it will be due to something else. IDE speeds are fine for that.

I have them both on seperate IDE channels as it is.. so I'm
wondering if there would be any benefit by doing the converters?

Unlikely.

IE: I know the converters are going to give me sata speeds with an optical
drive, but would they free up the bottlenecks of in use issues and the OS?

Unlikely.

Anyone tried it and know if there is a difference?

Most dont get the effect you are getting.

I get sluggishness in performance doing simple operations, like opening
new explorer windows.. etc... delayed responses.. than the usual.

I always assumed this was normal with ordinary ide / optical channel
devices being "slammed" at the same time.

markm75 wrote:
Rod Speed wrote:
markm75 wrote:

I was pondering converting my 2 internal Optical drives to
SATA, using very inexpensive converters... Mainly because
currently, if I'm doing writing to a disc or even copying from
them, the machine.. here a Dual Core 2 1.86 GHZ with 2 GB
ram and vista, begins to act very slowly while in use, due to the
bus/interface issues, compared to SATA speeds, I'm assuming.

Nope, it will be due to something else. IDE speeds are fine for that.

I have them both on seperate IDE channels as it is.. so I'm
wondering if there would be any benefit by doing the converters?

Unlikely.

IE: I know the converters are going to give me sata speeds with an
optical drive, but would they free up the bottlenecks of in use
issues and the OS?

Unlikely.

Anyone tried it and know if there is a difference?

Most dont get the effect you are getting.

I get sluggishness in performance doing simple operations, like
opening new explorer windows.. etc... delayed responses.. than the
usual.

I always assumed this was normal with ordinary ide / optical channel
devices being "slammed" at the same time.

Nope, its due to some other problem.

"markm75" wrote in message
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I was pondering converting my 2 internal Optical drives to SATA, using
very inexpensive converters... Mainly because currently, if I'm doing
writing to a disc or even copying from them, the machine.. here a Dual
Core 2 1.86 GHZ with 2 GB ram and vista, begins to act very slowly
while in use, due to the bus/interface issues, compared to SATA speeds,
I'm assuming.

I have them both on seperate IDE channels as it is.. so I'm wondering
if there would be any benefit by doing the converters? IE: I know the
converters are going to give me sata speeds with an optical drive, but
would they free up the bottlenecks of in use issues and the OS?

Anyone tried it and know if there is a difference?

Thanks


Do you know what HDD is in there?

Maybe its a slow drive thats causing the delay?

And it is only a 1.86Ghz chip so maybe its performing as well as it can...

Is this a new machine pre loaded with Vista or an upgrade ... oops scrub
that of course it must be as the upgrade version of Vista isnt out yet.
Unless youve loaded a beta version of Vista?

There are more questions than answers...hey we know a song about that!

YMMV

Ian I^)

Previously markm75 wrote:
I was pondering converting my 2 internal Optical drives to SATA, using
very inexpensive converters... Mainly because currently, if I'm doing
writing to a disc or even copying from them, the machine.. here a Dual
Core 2 1.86 GHZ with 2 GB ram and vista, begins to act very slowly
while in use, due to the bus/interface issues, compared to SATA speeds,
I'm assuming.

I have them both on seperate IDE channels as it is.. so I'm wondering
if there would be any benefit by doing the converters? IE: I know the
converters are going to give me sata speeds with an optical drive, but
would they free up the bottlenecks of in use issues and the OS?

Interface speed is as good as irrelevant with optical drives. They
are far, far behind HDDs in that regard and HDDs do not max out
an ATA100 interface today.

Anyone tried it and know if there is a difference?

Don't expect any difference. Also expect problems with the
converters, as they are pimarily intended for HDDs.

Arno

Ian R wrote:
"markm75" wrote in message
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I was pondering converting my 2 internal Optical drives to SATA, using
very inexpensive converters... Mainly because currently, if I'm doing
writing to a disc or even copying from them, the machine.. here a Dual
Core 2 1.86 GHZ with 2 GB ram and vista, begins to act very slowly
while in use, due to the bus/interface issues, compared to SATA speeds,
I'm assuming.

I have them both on seperate IDE channels as it is.. so I'm wondering
if there would be any benefit by doing the converters? IE: I know the
converters are going to give me sata speeds with an optical drive, but
would they free up the bottlenecks of in use issues and the OS?

Anyone tried it and know if there is a difference?

Thanks


Do you know what HDD is in there?

Maybe its a slow drive thats causing the delay?

And it is only a 1.86Ghz chip so maybe its performing as well as it can...

Is this a new machine pre loaded with Vista or an upgrade ... oops scrub
that of course it must be as the upgrade version of Vista isnt out yet.
Unless youve loaded a beta version of Vista?

There are more questions than answers...hey we know a song about that!

YMMV

Ian I^)

Its a dual core 2.. so even at 1.86, it should be plenty fast.. HDD
wise.. I have 3 internals.. the motherboard is a p5n32-sli SE deluxe
asus, with SATAII backplane/conns.. 1 HD is a new 160GB Seagate SATAII
unit, the other two are 400GB SATAI Seagates with NCQ.. I also have an
external 400GB hooked up to the esata port.

I have a generic DVD rom on IDE channel 1, with a Pioneer 16x16 Dual
Layer Writer on the other IDE port.

Yeah.. I'm wondering if this may be a vista thing.. I'm using
DVDecrypter under Vista.. to burn ISOs... this program isnt too bad..
sluggishness at a minimum I'd say.. then Nero 7 is the other, more
sluggishness with it (Nero is rated for Vista).. This is x64 Vista RTM
(fresh install).