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HOW2 transition from IDE to new ones?
I've been using IDE hard-disks since the 90s.
Now this netbook shows /dev/sda1,2,3,4. I've read that these new-ones are better & cheaper. But the value in not in the hardware. it's in the contents, and we must keep our valuable data - with continuity. So can you have a BIG new-disk and say-2 IDEs on the same old/2005 PC? == TIA |
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Re (2): HOW2 transition from IDE to new ones?
In article , Bobbie Sellers wrote:
On 05/18/2012 12:28 PM, wrote: I've been using IDE hard-disks since the 90s. Now this netbook shows /dev/sda1,2,3,4. I've read that these new-ones are better& cheaper. But the value in not in the hardware. it's in the contents, and we must keep our valuable data - with continuity. So can you have a BIG new-disk and say-2 IDEs on the same old/2005 PC? == TIA What hardware might you have already? Same/old 2005 PC defines no important parameters of the machine aside from age. All the PCs that I have access to [except a netbook, which I don't intend to open up] have 2 40-pin sockets for master/slave IDE drive cables. Can such MOBOs accomodate the new type; perhaps with a plug in? I can't believe that when the new drives came out, users had to just discard their existing PCs. |
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Re (2): HOW2 transition from IDE to new ones?
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In article , Bobbie Sellers wrote: On 05/18/2012 12:28 PM, wrote: I've been using IDE hard-disks since the 90s. Now this netbook shows /dev/sda1,2,3,4. I've read that these new-ones are better& cheaper. But the value in not in the hardware. it's in the contents, and we must keep our valuable data - with continuity. So can you have a BIG new-disk and say-2 IDEs on the same old/2005 PC? == TIA What hardware might you have already? Same/old 2005 PC defines no important parameters of the machine aside from age. All the PCs that I have access to [except a netbook, which I don't intend to open up] have 2 40-pin sockets for master/slave IDE drive cables. Can such MOBOs accomodate the new type; perhaps with a plug in? I can't believe that when the new drives came out, users had to just discard their existing PCs. Some examples of adapters. I own the first one, and it has a jumper for master/slave. The picture gallery for the first one, shows the PCB has a slightly different layout now, and the jumper is three position master/slave/cable_select. Note - this plugs directly into the back of the SATA hard drive. And allows two drives to be connected to a single ribbon cable. http://ca.startech.com/HDD/Adapters/...verter~IDE2SAT This is for a 2.5" SATA drive. Based on the pictures, I think this plugs right into the motherboard header, limiting SATA drives to one SATA drive per motherboard IDE header. There is no master/slave jumper that I can see. The adapter sits on top of the motherboard, then the red data cable runs over to the SATA hard drive. The user must provide a 15 pin power cable to run over to the SATA drive, to power it. So this solution isn't the same as the previous one, in terms of infrastructure. http://ca.startech.com/HDD/Adapters/...rter~IDE2SAT25 The problem with the adapters is size. Those would work in a desktop computer, because there would be room for them. A netbook isn't going to have room for assemblies like that. Adapter chips have been available for some time. In fact, the first SATA hard drives, used an adapter chip on the disk drive controller board, to convert a native IDE controller board, into SATA. It took a year or so, before true native SATA drives were made (where the controller board no longer used an adapter). The adapter chips are available in SATA to IDE and IDE to SATA. When purchasing, you have to be extra careful, to determine you're buying the correct direction. Sometimes the pictures provide a hint as to what the device may be. A lot of those adapters, don't come with a manual, and the Startech one could have used an extra picture or two. The picture gallery on the web site, helps to some extent. The adapter is relatively transparent to software. No driver is needed. (I didn't install a driver to use it.) Paul |
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Re (2): HOW2 transition from IDE to new ones?
On Sat, 19 May 2012 14:23:18 +0000, no.top.post wrote:
Can such MOBOs accomodate the new type; perhaps with a plug in? By "new type" I assume you mean SATA and by IDE I assume you mean PATA. Note that both are IDE. IDE stands for Integrated Drive Electronics. SATA and PATA define a different, higher level standard for the device to host interface. Yes, you can get a variety of adapters to run SATA on an older machine that only has a built-in PATA controller. There are PCI cards and also adapters that plug directly onto the back of the PATA drive. I can't believe that when the new drives came out, users had to just discard their existing PCs. No, you can still buy PATA drives, at least online. Walmart, BestBuy, Office Depot, etc may not carry them on a shelf these days (I have no idea if they do or not, I always buy online), but www.newegg.com, www.amazon.com, www.mwave.com and dozens (hundreds?) of other websites do. This is no different than when we transitioned from MFM to RLL, MFM to ESDI, RLL to ESDI, any of those to SCSI, any of those to PATA, etc. Interesting side note, you can still buy NEW MFM drives: http://www.memory4less.com/m4l_itemdetail.aspx? partno=ST125&itemid=27338636&rid=fd_10 $480 for a 21 MB, (Yes, that's MegaByte!) 3600 RPM drive, what a deal... |
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HOW2 transition from IDE to new ones?
On Fri, 18 May 2012 19:28:45 +0000, no.top.post wrote:
I've been using IDE hard-disks since the 90s. Now this netbook shows /dev/sda1,2,3,4. I've read that these new-ones are better & cheaper. But the value in not in the hardware. it's in the contents, and we must keep our valuable data - with continuity. So can you have a BIG new-disk and say-2 IDEs on the same old/2005 PC? == TIA I have been using the following adapter: http://www2.buyincoins.com/details/i...de-drive-dual- convert-adapter-product-675.html to run a sata drive off an ide connector for some time. Delivery time is about 2 weeks but the price is right. Best wishes, jwc |
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