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Radeon 9000 crash
Is there a problem with teh Radeon 9000 drivers and opengl
applications? The Win32 API SetPixelFormat, which is vital for any opengl application, consistently crashes on a Dell D600 laptop which has this graphics card. |
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"pro-grammer" wrote in message ... Is there a problem with teh Radeon 9000 drivers and opengl applications? The Win32 API SetPixelFormat, which is vital for any opengl application, consistently crashes on a Dell D600 laptop which has this graphics card. Which version of drivers are you using? It may be a version that needs the OpenGL hotfix. |
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Which version of drivers are you using? *It may be a version that needs the OpenGL hotfix. I got this from dxdiag: Card Name - MOBILITY RADEON 9000 Driver - 6.14.0010.6462 Does this driver need a hotfix? And if yes: Is there something I as an opengl programmer can do to avoid this crash on peoples machines who dont have a hot fix? Are there any articles/announcements that talk about this driver issue? Sorry for the many questions. Appreciate your help. |
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"pro-grammer" wrote in message ... Which version of drivers are you using? It may be a version that needs the OpenGL hotfix. I got this from dxdiag: Card Name - MOBILITY RADEON 9000 Driver - 6.14.0010.6462 Does this driver need a hotfix? And if yes: Is there something I as an opengl programmer can do to avoid this crash on peoples machines who dont have a hot fix? Are there any articles/announcements that talk about this driver issue? Sorry for the many questions. Appreciate your help. Sorry, I was mistaken. It is an AGP hotfix. Did you get those drivers from Dell, or ATI? It looks like the last driver at Dell is from 2005. |
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Sorry, I was mistaken. *It is an AGP hotfix. *Did you get those drivers from Dell, or ATI? *It looks like the last driver at Dell is from 2005.- Hide quoted text - This issue I am facing is a production crash for my application, and I dont know how the customer got his drivers. But I think we can assume that he hasnt really messed with the drivers, and that the drivers he has came with this laptop. I am trying to find out if: (a) Is this a known issue for the 6.14.0010.6462 ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9000 drivers for Dell D600 laptop (b) Is there something I can do programatically to avoid the crash in my opengl application Appreciate your help. |
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"pro-grammer" wrote in message ... Sorry, I was mistaken. It is an AGP hotfix. Did you get those drivers from Dell, or ATI? It looks like the last driver at Dell is from 2005.- Hide quoted text - This issue I am facing is a production crash for my application, and I dont know how the customer got his drivers. But I think we can assume that he hasnt really messed with the drivers, and that the drivers he has came with this laptop. I am trying to find out if: (a) Is this a known issue for the 6.14.0010.6462 ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9000 drivers for Dell D600 laptop (b) Is there something I can do programatically to avoid the crash in my opengl application Appreciate your help. I was thinking driver issue, but it may be the machine is hardware limited, and won't work with what you're trying to do. That is a fairly old video card, old being relative to computers, I mean. I can't help with your programming, but maybe you'll find something he http://www.opengl.org/search/?cx=017...&sa=Search#953 or he http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Sea...xelformat&ac=2 Good Luck |
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On 10/28/2010 4:14 PM, KCB wrote:
? "pro-grammer" wrote in message ... Sorry, I was mistaken. It is an AGP hotfix. Did you get those drivers from Dell, or ATI? It looks like the last driver at Dell is from 2005.- Hide quoted text - This issue I am facing is a production crash for my application, and I dont know how the customer got his drivers. But I think we can assume that he hasnt really messed with the drivers, and that the drivers he has came with this laptop. I am trying to find out if: (a) Is this a known issue for the 6.14.0010.6462 ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9000 drivers for Dell D600 laptop (b) Is there something I can do programatically to avoid the crash in my opengl application Appreciate your help. I was thinking driver issue, but it may be the machine is hardware limited, and won't work with what you're trying to do. That is a fairly old video card, old being relative to computers, I mean. I can't help with your programming, but maybe you'll find something he http://www.opengl.org/search/?cx=017...&sa=Search#953 or he http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Sea...xelformat&ac=2 Good Luck Evidently an old problem-- http://www.opengl.org/discussion_boa...&Number=246845 |
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On 10/28/2010 4:43 PM, Chuck wrote:
On 10/28/2010 4:14 PM, KCB wrote: ? "pro-grammer" wrote in message ... Sorry, I was mistaken. It is an AGP hotfix. Did you get those drivers from Dell, or ATI? It looks like the last driver at Dell is from 2005.- Hide quoted text - This issue I am facing is a production crash for my application, and I dont know how the customer got his drivers. But I think we can assume that he hasnt really messed with the drivers, and that the drivers he has came with this laptop. I am trying to find out if: (a) Is this a known issue for the 6.14.0010.6462 ATI MOBILITY RADEON 9000 drivers for Dell D600 laptop (b) Is there something I can do programatically to avoid the crash in my opengl application Appreciate your help. I was thinking driver issue, but it may be the machine is hardware limited, and won't work with what you're trying to do. That is a fairly old video card, old being relative to computers, I mean. I can't help with your programming, but maybe you'll find something he http://www.opengl.org/search/?cx=017...&sa=Search#953 or he http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Sea...xelformat&ac=2 Good Luck Evidently an old problem-- http://www.opengl.org/discussion_boa...&Number=246845 I forgot to remember and mention that I had this problem with an ATI AGP card several years ago. The eventual solution was an odd one. The original drivers had a bunch of open GL functions disabled for whatever reason. Games mentioned in the thread did not run, or ran using a software OGL emulator that was supplied with some games as an alternative. The cure was not installing newer drivers. I ended up installing a developers package for ATI to debug, and find out what was going on. Lo and Behold, the problem went away. Further, it stayed gone, even when the developer software was uninstalled. I always suspected that a registry entry or value was added or changed by the developer software, but never bothered to go back and find out. (One system, one card, never gonna buy the same card again, as it was an AGP card, and getting quite long in the tooth.) |
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The eventual solution was an odd one. The
original drivers had a bunch of open GL functions disabled for whatever reason. Games mentioned in the thread did not run, or ran using a software OGL emulator that was supplied with some games as an alternative. The cure was not installing newer drivers. I ended up installing a developers package for ATI to debug, and find out what was going on. Lo and Behold, the problem went away. Further, it stayed gone, even when the developer software was uninstalled. I always suspected that a registry entry or value was added or changed by the developer software, but never bothered to go back and find out. Thanks for that lead Chuck... Just one clarification - What did you mean by "developers package"? Anyone here have a clue of how installing a developers package could have fixed Chuck's issue? Another bit of info I have is that the opengl dll in question is atioglxx.dll, version 6.13.10.3446 Evidently an old problem-- http://www.opengl.org/discussion_boa...ubb=showflat&N... The problem discussed at the above link was not the same as my problem... |
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On 11/2/2010 2:18 AM, pro-grammer wrote:
The eventual solution was an odd one. The original drivers had a bunch of open GL functions disabled for whatever reason. Games mentioned in the thread did not run, or ran using a software OGL emulator that was supplied with some games as an alternative. The cure was not installing newer drivers. I ended up installing a developers package for ATI to debug, and find out what was going on. Lo and Behold, the problem went away. Further, it stayed gone, even when the developer software was uninstalled. I always suspected that a registry entry or value was added or changed by the developer software, but never bothered to go back and find out. Thanks for that lead Chuck... Just one clarification - What did you mean by "developers package"? Anyone here have a clue of how installing a developers package could have fixed Chuck's issue? Another bit of info I have is that the opengl dll in question is atioglxx.dll, version 6.13.10.3446 Evidently an old problem-- http://www.opengl.org/discussion_boa...ubb=showflat&N... The problem discussed at the above link was not the same as my problem... Developer's kit, software, etc. ATI/AMD has reorganized it's web sites to the point that I have no idea where developers info and so forth is now located. Let alone for the older cards. What I did find out in past references to OGL was that early driver versions shipped with some cards had features disabled, likely due to "bugs". Exactly how they were disabled was not obvious. It seemed that registry entries were involved, and the later driver installs did not reset/change the entries that disabled the features. Evidently installing the developer software did change the registry entries to allow full use, and for obvious reasons, enabled everything. I originally installed the "kit" to use some of the debug features, and because the registry changes fixed the problem, never got any useful information from the debug software. Between ATI Nvidia, and Microsoft supplied video drivers and registry entries, it's obvious that some "safe" reliable process is needed for cleanup of older entries. Enough said. I never did find a list of what entries were used, and other than a manual "seek and find", along with hit and miss registry editing, get rid of the problem entries. These days, there are some registry "walkers" that will map the chains of entries. I'm retired these days, and on to more mundane matters. |
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