GA-6BXDS rev 1.6 - only one CPU fan spinning

Well, I think this just started to do this. I know the CPU fan isn't
bad, because when I plug it into CPU fan port 2 (instead of port 1) it
spins just fine. Has anyone seen this behavior and have a suggestion
on how it can be remedied, besides obviously switching from a 3-to-4
pin power adapter for the fan (which I can't find in my local stores)

Also does anyone know what the fastest cpu for this board is (rev 1.6)
either offical or unoffical (via slotket or some other means) ?

-GV

"GlassVial" wrote in message
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Well, I think this just started to do this. I know the CPU fan isn't
bad, because when I plug it into CPU fan port 2 (instead of port 1) it
spins just fine. Has anyone seen this behavior and have a suggestion
on how it can be remedied, besides obviously switching from a 3-to-4
pin power adapter for the fan (which I can't find in my local stores)

Also does anyone know what the fastest cpu for this board is (rev 1.6)
either offical or unoffical (via slotket or some other means) ?


I have 2 servers based on this board, both running 1100MHz processors, one a
Celeron and the other a P3, both coppermine FC-PGA on slocket adapters. I
have not been able to get these boards to dual process with P3s on slocket
adapters (and I tried at least 6 different types) only with slot 1 but as
GHz version of these are hard to find I have remained with a single FC-PGA
processor on each.

"Alien Zord" wrote in message
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"GlassVial" wrote in message
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Well, I think this just started to do this. I know the CPU fan isn't
bad, because when I plug it into CPU fan port 2 (instead of port 1) it
spins just fine. Has anyone seen this behavior and have a suggestion
on how it can be remedied, besides obviously switching from a 3-to-4
pin power adapter for the fan (which I can't find in my local stores)

Also does anyone know what the fastest cpu for this board is (rev 1.6)
either offical or unoffical (via slotket or some other means) ?


I have 2 servers based on this board, both running 1100MHz processors, one
a
Celeron and the other a P3, both coppermine FC-PGA on slocket adapters. I
have not been able to get these boards to dual process with P3s on slocket
adapters (and I tried at least 6 different types) only with slot 1 but as
GHz version of these are hard to find I have remained with a single FC-PGA
processor on each.


And the answer to your other Q is that the fan header is obviously faulty so
either join the two red and black fan wires together (leave the yellow
disconnected) or get a Y splitter or simply crimp or solder the red and
black wires from the fan onto the yellow and black wires of any drive
connector. You can also get a male version of the 4 pin drive connector to
crimp on.

First off I apologize for the double post, for some reason it didn't
show up when I posted it?

I have 2 servers based on this board, both running 1100MHz processors, one a
Celeron and the other a P3, both coppermine FC-PGA on slocket adapters. I
have not been able to get these boards to dual process with P3s on slocket
adapters (and I tried at least 6 different types) only with slot 1 but as
GHz version of these are hard to find I have remained with a single FC-PGA
processor on each.

Ok so it DOES or DOES NOT work, I'm a little confused by the way you
put it. I was under the impression different revision boards could
take certain CPU's (hence I mentioned v1.6). So it's possible to get
2 1000's or 1100's on a slocket to work then? So long as it's
coppermine, or what? This board would need to stay dual, it's a
server setup.

(and)

And the answer to your other Q is that the fan header is obviously faulty so
either join the two red and black fan wires together (leave the yellow
disconnected) or get a Y splitter or simply crimp or solder the red and
black wires from the fan onto the yellow and black wires of any drive
connector. You can also get a male version of the 4 pin drive connector to
crimp on.

Ok, so if the fan header is faulty, I'll look into a way to keep the
fans going, probably trying to track down a 3-to-4 pin adapter (not my
first choice but I guess I don't have much OF a choice). I've already
turned the "CPU fan control" off which turns off the CPU warning
alarm.

*NOW* onto the NEW problem (yay, new problems are so fun)

This is a really bizarre one. I'm trying to get Win2k on this
machine. I get up to the point where it says "starting windows 2000"
while still in the "blue screen" section of setup, after it does some
rudimentary things and right when it's about to start asking for
input, what drive you want to install on, and etc. Without fail,
every time I get to that (exact) point, the system will hang, the CPU
fan alarm will go off (or whatever you want to call it) and I have to
reboot the machine. I know it's a good Win2K disc, I just ran an
install off of it. So, this is extremely puzzling, I'm open to
suggestions!

Thanks!

-GV

"GlassVial" wrote in message
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First off I apologize for the double post, for some reason it didn't
show up when I posted it?

Alien Zord:
I have 2 servers based on this board, both running 1100MHz processors,
one a
Celeron and the other a P3, both coppermine FC-PGA on slocket adapters. I
have not been able to get these boards to dual process with P3s on
slocket
adapters (and I tried at least 6 different types) only with slot 1 but as
GHz version of these are hard to find I have remained with a single
FC-PGA
processor on each.

Ok so it DOES or DOES NOT work, I'm a little confused by the way you
put it. I was under the impression different revision boards could
take certain CPU's (hence I mentioned v1.6). So it's possible to get
2 1000's or 1100's on a slocket to work then? So long as it's
coppermine, or what? This board would need to stay dual, it's a
server setup.



OK, I have versions 1.6 and 1.7. Both work perfectly with a single 1100MHz
FC-PGA processor on a slocket adapter in either CPU1 or CPU2 sockets. But,
neither of them will recognize the second processor if two FC-PGA processors
on slocket adapters are inserted. However, both will recognize and work
perfectly with two 550MHz P3 slot 1 processors. So it seems that the problem
lies with the slocket adapters.

Summary:
2x 550MHz slot 1 P3 = works perfectly in SMP mode
1x 1100MHz FC-PGA Celeron or P3 on a slocket = works perfectly
2x 1100MHz FC-PGA P3 on a slocket = BIOS F1 only recognises 1 processor

(Here I should mention that a single FC-PGA Celeron 1100MHz on a slocket
adapter is 'faster' than two 550MHz P3 slot 1 processors working together!)


*NOW* onto the NEW problem (yay, new problems are so fun)

This is a really bizarre one. I'm trying to get Win2k on this
machine. I get up to the point where it says "starting windows 2000"
while still in the "blue screen" section of setup, after it does some
rudimentary things and right when it's about to start asking for
input, what drive you want to install on, and etc. Without fail,
every time I get to that (exact) point, the system will hang, the CPU
fan alarm will go off (or whatever you want to call it) and I have to
reboot the machine. I know it's a good Win2K disc, I just ran an
install off of it. So, this is extremely puzzling, I'm open to
suggestions!


One of mine is running Win2k server 24/7 faultlessly. The other is an
engineering unit with removable hard drive draws for both IDE and SCSI (50,
64 and 80 pin) drives. For support purposes it has Win3.11, Win95c, 98SE,
Me, NT4.0 server, Win2k server and WinXP installed on different hard drives.
All work perfectly.

Did you press F6 and had the correct SCSI driver on a floppy at the
beginning of Win2k installation (assuming you are installing the OS on a
SCSI drive)?

OK, I have versions 1.6 and 1.7. Both work perfectly with a single 1100MHz
FC-PGA processor on a slocket adapter in either CPU1 or CPU2 sockets. But,
neither of them will recognize the second processor if two FC-PGA processors
on slocket adapters are inserted. However, both will recognize and work
perfectly with two 550MHz P3 slot 1 processors. So it seems that the problem
lies with the slocket adapters.

Summary:
2x 550MHz slot 1 P3 = works perfectly in SMP mode
1x 1100MHz FC-PGA Celeron or P3 on a slocket = works perfectly
2x 1100MHz FC-PGA P3 on a slocket = BIOS F1 only recognises 1 processor

(Here I should mention that a single FC-PGA Celeron 1100MHz on a slocket
adapter is 'faster' than two 550MHz P3 slot 1 processors working together!)

Ok, that's clearer, thanks. Seems a shame to only run 1 CPU on a dual
board, however

Perhaps the problem is it's a Celeron, didn't Intel do something to
them so they can't be run in a dual configuration? I forget, it's
been awhile

One of mine is running Win2k server 24/7 faultlessly. The other is an
engineering unit with removable hard drive draws for both IDE and SCSI (50,
64 and 80 pin) drives. For support purposes it has Win3.11, Win95c, 98SE,
Me, NT4.0 server, Win2k server and WinXP installed on different hard drives.
All work perfectly.

Did you press F6 and had the correct SCSI driver on a floppy at the
beginning of Win2k installation (assuming you are installing the OS on a
SCSI drive)?

This is gonna sound totally weird (because it was to me) but after
many hours of fighting with the thing I finally figured it out. It
was either my keyboard or mouse I was using, I switched out both at
the same time, and tada, the machine finally started behaving. I was
looking at it thinking, ok, this is *literally* the only thing I
haven't tried, what have I got to lose? It's a perfectly good kb and
mouse, I've used them both several times on my bench, but now that kb
has been a little beaten on by myself, taking some frustrations out

Now that I've got things running maybe I'll try the CPU fan ports
again just for the hell of it, but I still find it very odd that a CPU
fan power port would go bad like that. If it doesn't work out a
vendor in town says he thinks he has 3-to-4 pin adapters for sale so I
may pick up 2 and run the CPU fans off the main power, just to be on
the safe side

Thanks for the info.

-GV

"GlassVial" wrote in message
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Alien Zord:
Summary:
2x 550MHz slot 1 P3 = works perfectly in SMP mode
1x 1100MHz FC-PGA Celeron or P3 on a slocket = works perfectly
2x 1100MHz FC-PGA P3 on a slocket = BIOS F1 only recognises 1 processor

(Here I should mention that a single FC-PGA Celeron 1100MHz on a slocket
adapter is 'faster' than two 550MHz P3 slot 1 processors working
together!)

Ok, that's clearer, thanks. Seems a shame to only run 1 CPU on a dual
board, however


I agree! I have desperately tried to get 2 processors working in order to
extend the useful life of these 2 machines but failed so far. I have come
across this article
http://www.hardwarecentral.com/hardw...eviews/1673/1/ but haven't
tried the mod yet as I don't have the same slockets.

Perhaps the problem is it's a Celeron, didn't Intel do something to
them so they can't be run in a dual configuration? I forget, it's
been awhile


If you re-read my post you will see that I did not try to SMP Celerons, only
P3s.

Ok, that's clearer, thanks. Seems a shame to only run 1 CPU on a dual
board, however

I agree! I have desperately tried to get 2 processors working in order to
extend the useful life of these 2 machines but failed so far. I have come
across this article
http://www.hardwarecentral.com/hardw...eviews/1673/1/ but haven't
tried the mod yet as I don't have the same slockets.

Yikes! That's some serious tight soldering (which I'm not good at)
and not to mention if you can even find that particular slocket
anymore. It would be interesting to see if there's any articles out
there that have that information, done in a different way, different
slocket, etc. A Celeron 1.1 is pretty cheap now, perhaps if this
machine isn't fast enough for my customer I might mention it as a
potential upgrade.

Perhaps the problem is it's a Celeron, didn't Intel do something to
them so they can't be run in a dual configuration? I forget, it's
been awhile

If you re-read my post you will see that I did not try to SMP Celerons, only
P3s.

Yeah you're right, those numbers all ran together there. But the
thing I was saying is IIRC the Celerons couldn't do SMP but Pentiums
could, however I suppose in this case according to that article
without some serious work you wouldn't get either going

-GV

And the answer to your other Q is that the fan header is obviously faulty so
either join the two red and black fan wires together (leave the yellow
disconnected) or get a Y splitter or simply crimp or solder the red and
black wires from the fan onto the yellow and black wires of any drive
connector. You can also get a male version of the 4 pin drive connector to
crimp on.

I tested fan port #1 with a multimeter, it's getting proper voltage,
so it's very, very odd that it's not spinning the fan. I think I've
found my solution, however. There's a place in town that sells 3-pin
splitters (just like the 4-pin spliters which are so common) so I will
probably just end up getting one of those and splitting the 3-pin
header from fan port #2, which still works, to run both CPU fans.

-GV