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"Buffer Overrun? Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library"?!?
Hi group.
I finally had to give up my Win98se. I tried overinstalling with a WinME upgrade disk, that I received from a good friend, but that did not work out well. So, I finally purchased a WinXP system installation disk and have been trying to install and set it up, in the last few days. I have had several problems and have been formating the HDD and reinstalling the WinXP program- several times (about half a dozen times), with continues problems, that I finally got over last night. *I thought!* This AM. I turned on the PC and I could not boot up and it would stay at "The window is staring up", but it would just sit there and I did reboot/reset- several times and then got this red flag message; Heading; "Microsoft Visual C:++ Runtime Library; Buffer overrun; Program\??\windows, system32, winlogon.exe. "A Buffer overrun has been detected which has corrupted the program's internal state. The program can not safely continue execution and must now be terminated! Now it will not go into the window What did I screw up now!? and what can I do to correct this!? Any help, comments, info or feed back is much appreciated! Thank you. BN |
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"Buffer Overrun? Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library"?!? JD
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The WinXP finally installed ok, as well as a lot of different programs and Sp2. and it worked ok last night. BUT, for some reason, it will not boot into Windows, given the "Warning" as I stated! I just like to know what exactly that "Warning" tells you and what can be done. I can't even get into Win. using "Safe Mode"! BN |
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"Buffer Overrun? Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library"?!? JD
Hi Paul,- good to hear from you!
Yes, it's a new ball game now, with the WinXP installation, with the 2ea. 1GB RAM sticks installed. And all new problems for me! I should had purchased a NEW PC instead of trying to do something that I'm not familiar with, but- maybe next year. I also had a problem with the larger 160GB HDD I purchased with the ram sticks from NewEgg, it would not even boot to load all the BIOS or anything from the installation CD, so I had to RMA that back for a replacement. I have now loading the winXP on to my spare 40GB HDD and that is were my new problem come in. I have Memtest 86 V3.4 on a floppy and it's running right now- for about 1 hour. I noticed that there are so many different Versions of it, so I don't know if the one I have is any good or not?- what do you think, Paul? I don't really know what I'm looking at on the screen, but, so far there are no errors indicated. I don't really know about all the "Descriptive/Info.- like; L1 Cache 128K- 8582MB/s, L2 Cache 64K - 3596MB/s, Memory- 2016M 563MB/s If that has any value or not? but as long as there is no indication of errors I think that the ram sticks are OK? Thanks again for all your help. BN |
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"Buffer Overrun? Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library"?!? JD
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Hi Paul,- good to hear from you! Yes, it's a new ball game now, with the WinXP installation, with the 2ea. 1GB RAM sticks installed. And all new problems for me! I should had purchased a NEW PC instead of trying to do something that I'm not familiar with, but- maybe next year. I also had a problem with the larger 160GB HDD I purchased with the ram sticks from NewEgg, it would not even boot to load all the BIOS or anything from the installation CD, so I had to RMA that back for a replacement. I have now loading the winXP on to my spare 40GB HDD and that is were my new problem come in. I have Memtest 86 V3.4 on a floppy and it's running right now- for about 1 hour. I noticed that there are so many different Versions of it, so I don't know if the one I have is any good or not?- what do you think, Paul? I don't really know what I'm looking at on the screen, but, so far there are no errors indicated. I don't really know about all the "Descriptive/Info.- like; L1 Cache 128K- 8582MB/s, L2 Cache 64K - 3596MB/s, Memory- 2016M 563MB/s If that has any value or not? but as long as there is no indication of errors I think that the ram sticks are OK? Thanks again for all your help. BN I guess I was hoping for an easy answer :-) I don't really want to "run you through the wringer" on this. Some of the things I could suggest, might take you some amount of time to set up, and there is no guarantee the results would be any better. I see two possibilities. 1) Prove the individual components in your new setup, are all working correctly. You might, for example, dig up a diagnostic program for that brand of hard drive you're using. I have a Seagate test floppy, I downloaded from their site. The "long test" would tell you how good the drive was. Each brand may provide their own test. Another thing to test, would be the ability to read the CD, in case some of the files are coming off it corrupted. You haven't indicated what your release of Windows is - it could be WinXP SP3, but there is probably more than one CD of that in existence. I could run MD5SUM on my CD, and give you the 5000 checksums of the files in the i386 folder. That doesn't sound like much fun. 2) Go back to known good components. For example, your old RAM works, and you didn't have any crashes or problems before, then perhaps you could temporarily use that RAM again for some tests. WinXP can easily run with 512MB, as I built a computer for a family member with that much RAM in it a couple years ago. Try a reinstall, using the old RAM. I was hoping the WinXP CD has a build-in check, but I'm not seeing anything to suggest they have that capability. My Linux CD for example, has a media test option, so you can verify the files on the CD are OK. Linux compares the computed checksums, against a checksum file, as a way to verify the CD is OK and readable by the drive. ******* If I run your error symptoms... Buffer Overrun Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library winlogon the post at the bottom of this thread, mentions the master/slave nature of the hard drive setup. How have you jumpered the IDE drive ? Are there two drives on the cable, one master, one slave ? Is there one drive, mounted on the end connector, and set up as master (or master only, for WD brand drives) ? The suggestion here, is to check your setup and verify how you've jumpered it. You can also use cable select on each drive, if you have an 80 wire cable hooked to it. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r219...am-internal-st It could also be related to SuperAntiSpyware... http://forums.superantispyware.com/v...hp?f=3&p=14680 It could also be a malware problem, but so far, I don't see how that would have happened. This is what Visual C++ is checking for. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buffer_overrun This can happen when poorly written code accepts too large a data item. It is a technique used to "tip over" machines via the Internet. As more Service Packs and security updates have been added to WinXP, it has more protections for things like this, but there are always people searching for new exploits. In Googling the above terms, the buffer overrun is also associated with iexplore.exe. I'm hoping this is just something silly, rather than malware. As with malware, I'd want to understand how you go infected so quickly, if that is what happened. Paul |
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"Buffer Overrun? Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library"?!?
Hi Paul.
Again, thanks for all that good info.! That will keep me going. I got the WinXP pro. with Sp2 I only have one HDD installed, with just one single cable, it's a 40gb. *WD, that I had Win98se on, it is jumpered as Master and always was, and right now, after being up all night putting it together, it is working ok at this point. (knock on wood!) The spare, a 40GB Maxtor- is what I first installed WinXP on and it was working good at first- it did *not have any jumpers installed. The next morning is when it would not boot and I got the "Overrun Buffer" warning on.- I tried that one again with jumpers in the Master location and with out any, but nothing did bring it back to life, that I have tried. and the warning is still there and not booting to windows and I could not get the WinXP to format it again and reinstall- I'll try again today. The new HDD I purchased from NewEgg, is a 160GB. and that one did not do much- it would not even boot thru the BIOS, it stopped after the BIOS drive info.- that one I sent back to NewEgg on a RMA. Maybe there is something wrong with the BIOS?!- I don't know! Paul, I know that this could be a very simple thing or it could be a big thing, like you say, maybe some sneaky malware got in there,but I have Avast and Super Anti Spyware installed and did run. I also have Norton 2003 utility CD that I had run on that HDD, from the CD- (I did not want to download it, because it is a "big one") I feel sure that the 2x1GB RAM sticks are working ok, they are recognized and they checked out ok in the Memtest? I just hope that this last setup will stay ok and that I get a good 160GB HDD back from NewEgg and that will work ok for a new WinXP setup. I know that there are several tests to try, but you have to know what you are doing or it is just adding more frustrations on to the problem, but when I have the time and mind set, I will check and try to learn more about this stuff. Paul, thanks again for sharing all your knowledge and PC know how with me and the rest of the people here, that need some guidance and help. I will be plugging at it and if it gets to be too much, I hope I can call on you for more of your help, again. BN |
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"Buffer Overrun? Microsoft Visual C++ Runtime Library"?!?
Paul.
I have one CDROM (D drive) and ONE HDD (the 40GB) on one cable (the HDD at the end of the cable) and it has always been this setup and the HDD jumpered as Master (C drive). I never had his problem until I installed WinXP. There is something very wrong here, that don't make any sense! I had everything running just fine after the first installation, until the next day, when I turned it back on, then everything seamed to go wrong! I could not get into windows! I could not get a repeat choice to Format the HDD again, (witch is what I need to do, to start over again, on that #1 HDD! when I booted up again, using the WinXP installation CD, trying to get a Format. I got in to dos trying to get a Format there, but that did not work ether!!? Nothing s working right, for what ever reason!? As I told you, I'm running on my spare HDD that I made my second install on and that is now, also acting strange, with stalls, taking forever to shut down and start up and it just shut down and come back on, asking if I want to go back to a earlier date for a recovery setup!? and I did and I'm now getting warnings about not being protected because the security is not up to date! Maybe I now have viruses or some whole damn "epidemic" I am constantly getting a flag telling me that I have installed a NEW Program!? every time I boot up!- I have NOT installed a new program! and there us nothing added in the program index!!- could that maybe indicate that something/someone is getting in to my PC?!- just a though?! it is a new one on me. The system just shut down and when I tried to restart and boot from the WinXP CD, it gave me a black screen with; "Line 8722 of the inf. file \138\text setup.sif is invalid"- "Setup can not continue . Press any key to exit." That is all I get now!! can't go anyplace else any more! I never had this many and new problems with the Win98se! Thank god I still have the Webtv- maybe that's what I should stay with!? Paul, how can I get these two HDDs formated so I can start over again!" If you have any ideas as to what strange things are going on- run it by me! I know it must be getting frustrating for you to read all this, from me! Thanks again for your help. BN |
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Paul. I have one CDROM (D drive) and ONE HDD (the 40GB) on one cable (the HDD at the end of the cable) and it has always been this setup and the HDD jumpered as Master (C drive). I never had his problem until I installed WinXP. There is something very wrong here, that don't make any sense! I had everything running just fine after the first installation, until the next day, when I turned it back on, then everything seamed to go wrong! I could not get into windows! I could not get a repeat choice to Format the HDD again, (witch is what I need to do, to start over again, on that #1 HDD! when I booted up again, using the WinXP installation CD, trying to get a Format. I got in to dos trying to get a Format there, but that did not work ether!!? Nothing s working right, for what ever reason!? As I told you, I'm running on my spare HDD that I made my second install on and that is now, also acting strange, with stalls, taking forever to shut down and start up and it just shut down and come back on, asking if I want to go back to a earlier date for a recovery setup!? and I did and I'm now getting warnings about not being protected because the security is not up to date! Maybe I now have viruses or some whole damn "epidemic" I am constantly getting a flag telling me that I have installed a NEW Program!? every time I boot up!- I have NOT installed a new program! and there us nothing added in the program index!!- could that maybe indicate that something/someone is getting in to my PC?!- just a though?! it is a new one on me. The system just shut down and when I tried to restart and boot from the WinXP CD, it gave me a black screen with; "Line 8722 of the inf. file \138\text setup.sif is invalid"- "Setup can not continue . Press any key to exit." That is all I get now!! can't go anyplace else any more! I never had this many and new problems with the Win98se! Thank god I still have the Webtv- maybe that's what I should stay with!? Paul, how can I get these two HDDs formated so I can start over again!" If you have any ideas as to what strange things are going on- run it by me! I know it must be getting frustrating for you to read all this, from me! Thanks again for your help. BN Everyone has a meltdown, once in a while. I had one computer, where I replaced practically everything in it. So sometimes these things happen. To erase a disk, you can use DBAN (Darik's Boot and Nuke). You only want disks that are to be erased, connected to the computer when you run it. Use the "quick erase" option, so it won't do multiple passes. http://www.dban.org/ I use a Linux CD for Windows maintenance, and it gives me access to FAT32 or NTFS partitions. So I can do a few things there. I can also watch the Linux boot messages, and see how things are going. If the computer is not stable, the boot sequence will start showing errors. Are you using the old RAM now ? Switch back to the old RAM. Sometimes, the disk manufacturer has utilities you can use. For example, SeatoolsForDOS can erase the drive. It can also test the disk. But it is mainly intended for a Seagate drive, and I don't know what it would do if only some other brand was in use. http://www.seagate.com/support/seato...lsDOSguide.pdf I hope these problems are not coming from bad RAM... What I was taught at work, is an "onion skin" approach to test. You test a bit of hardware at a time, building up a list of stuff that is working. I might test RAM, CPU+RAM, and then do some disk tests or CD tests. By proving some of the hardware first, you can tick that off the list when you see issues later. Right now, I don't really have a feeling what subsystem is having trouble in your computer. My training would force me to go back to the basics. One problem, is not every test I'd like to run, is available as a free program for download. So the test suite is not complete. Sometimes, a prebuilt computer comes with its own test or diagnostic package, and it has better coverage than something I could cook up. I used to write my own test programs, for the hardware I worked on, but those days are long gone :-) Good luck, Paul |
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