Vista - Apple Laserwriter II NT driver

Looking for an Apple Laserwiter II NT driver for 64bit Vista.
Any ideas whether there is one or which of the listed ones
I might try.
I use Epson Stylus Color for color and that's ok, test
page printed ok.
So it's just the Laserjet that's the problem, it's excellent
for the occasional letter, spreadsheet and web pages.
And I have several still sealed OEM toner cartridges.

On 10-Sep-2007, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" wrote:

Looking for an Apple Laserwiter II NT driver for 64bit Vista.

As it is a standard Postscript printer, you can undoubtedly use Adobe's
Universal Installer to install the LW IINT PPD into Windows.

Question: how are you going to print to this baby? You have AppleTalk
on Vista 64bit?

No AppleTalk involved, it's a serial 9600baud COM1 connected
printer with WinXP, and WinXP had the drivers.
Vista doesn't have any Apple LW NT drivers, and doesn't seem able
to find any additional drivers on the MS$ search.
Although old it's excellent print quality, and being flatbed
takes card stock.
It's just a case of how do I install a printer that Vista doesn't offer
drivers for.

On Sep 10, 3:25 am, wrote:
On 10-Sep-2007, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" wrote:

Looking for an Apple Laserwiter II NT driver for 64bit Vista.

As it is a standard Postscript printer, you can undoubtedly use Adobe's
Universal Installer to install the LW IINT PPD into Windows.

Question: how are you going to print to this baby? You have AppleTalk
on Vista 64bit?

No AppleTalk involved, it's a serial 9600baud COM1 connected
printer with WinXP, and WinXP had the drivers.
Vista doesn't have any Apple LW NT drivers, and doesn't seem able
to find any additional drivers on the MS$ search.
Although old it's excellent print quality, and being flatbed
takes card stock.
It's just a case of how do I install a printer that Vista doesn't offer
drivers for.

Does it supply drivers for say, a LaserWriter IIg? The IIg has
10BaseT Ethernet, and would be a good way to go. Up to 32 Megs of RAM
with 8 RAM sockets, etc.. True Adobe PS, not a clone. You can swap
the IINT board for a IIg. I have a few IIg boards if you need one.

Raymond

On 10-Sep-2007, Silicon Sam wrote:

Does it supply drivers for say, a LaserWriter IIg? The IIg has
10BaseT Ethernet, and would be a good way to go.

Unfortunately no mention of Apple printers at all in Vista,
or Sun Laser Writer which is supposed to be the same
as LW II NT. I've set the port baud and flow control,
an LED monitor can see the data going to the printer,
but the printer then just coughs and reverts to standby.
Only other possible drivers are the HP postscript ones,
I'm still working through them, but no success so far.
Looks like back to WinXP.
Or Linux which has LW II NT drivers.
I'm not sure if the IIg board will fit, only boards I know of
are the II NT and II NTX. I think the NTX added a parallel
interface and larger memory.

On Sep 10, 1:21 pm, wrote:
On 10-Sep-2007, Silicon Sam wrote:

Does it supply drivers for say, a LaserWriter IIg? The IIg has
10BaseT Ethernet, and would be a good way to go.

Unfortunately no mention of Apple printers at all in Vista,
or Sun Laser Writer which is supposed to be the same
as LW II NT. I've set the port baud and flow control,
an LED monitor can see the data going to the printer,
but the printer then just coughs and reverts to standby.
Only other possible drivers are the HP postscript ones,
I'm still working through them, but no success so far.
Looks like back to WinXP.
Or Linux which has LW II NT drivers.
I'm not sure if the IIg board will fit, only boards I know of
are the II NT and II NTX. I think the NTX added a parallel
interface and larger memory.

Is this the same LaserWriter IINT that uses the HP laserJet II and
III cartridges? 8 pages a minute? They did make a Personal
LaserWriter, (4 pages per minute) that uses HP LaserJet IIp and IIIp
carts. But the the big LaserWriter II had 5 incarnations. The SC,
NT, NTX, f and g motherboards. Loosen 2 screws, slide the old board
out, slide the new one in.

IISC= SCSI Port for printing
IINT= Added Postscript, Serial and AppleTalk
IINTX= Added parallel, more memory
IIf= Added more memory, SCSI port for font storage, faster
processing times
IIg= Added AAUI port for Ethernet, etc...

That's it in a nutshell. I used to repair them printers for many
years. Not worth it anymore, of course...

Raymond

On 10-Sep-2007, Silicon Sam wrote:

Is this the same LaserWriter IINT that uses the HP laserJet II and
III cartridges? 8 pages a minute? They did make a Personal
LaserWriter, (4 pages per minute) that uses HP LaserJet IIp and IIIp
carts. But the the big LaserWriter II had 5 incarnations. The SC,
NT, NTX, f and g motherboards. Loosen 2 screws, slide the old board
out, slide the new one in.

IISC= SCSI Port for printing
IINT= Added Postscript, Serial and AppleTalk
IINTX= Added parallel, more memory
IIf= Added more memory, SCSI port for font storage, faster
processing times
IIg= Added AAUI port for Ethernet, etc...

Uses 95a cartridge for the HP LJ II IID III IIID
Only problem I had was having to rebuild and redesign the
fuser power supply in the AC power module about 5 yrs
ago., Blown triac took out the opto as well.
I don't think the Vista problem is the printer but
rather Vista having dropped support for this printer
whose postscript implementation was a little
unconventional, like Acrobat files never printed due to
a recognised non-supported font problem. Unless I used
Ghostscript and Ghostgum, but for this using the
Epson is the easier way out.
Unlike MS$ Linux has kept the same drivers from
early on, MS however seem to need new drivers
written for each new OS, and relies on the printer
mfrs. to write them "You want to sell printers,
you write the drivers policy" Hence no support for
legacy hardware, new OS = new peripherals.
The lack of drivers may make a IIg board non-viable.
There being no Apple drivers at all.
The IIg probably doesn't emulate the HP LJ II, IID, but
rather the Apple model.
Thakns for your informative reply.

wrote:

or Sun Laser Writer which is supposed to be the same
as LW II NT. I've set the port baud and flow control,
an LED monitor can see the data going to the printer,
but the printer then just coughs and reverts to standby.


Does the printer's startpage report a speed and parity setting
for the serial port? They default to 9600 N 8 1, but can
be set to other values. I had lots of trouble getting my
NTR to stay set at 38400, for some reason it would revert
to 9600 for no visible reason. I gave up the fight and
just leave mine at 9600 now.

Does the Windows serial port configuration contain the
flag icanon? If so, you might want to change it to
-icanon.

If you're wondering how I happened to learn this last little
tidbit, take a look at http://www.zefox.net/~bob/FreeBSD/printcap
The printer behavior you describe matches what I saw.

Good luck,

bob prohaska