Happy 2400 buyer

"Jim Kent" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 20:41:13 GMT, "Thomas G. Marshall"
. com wrote:

You know, why buy a 4600 if you
can get a 2400 to do about the same thing for $200 less?

Well, that's why they craftily kept the AGP port offa the 2400
motherboard.

Perhaps, but the Intel built-in video is going to be adequate for a
lot of users, so it might not be as successful a strategy as
complicating the addition of more storage.


Yeah, but that won't get the buyer dual-channel DDR.


Stew

"Jim Kent" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 13:26:27 GMT, "Christopher Muto"
wrote:

the order gets
canceled after three weeks of being 'in production', then they gladly
re-enter it for me. is that what you have experienced? part number
0t962.

Yup. Annoying, ain't it?

Sounds like that is the plan.

I'm starting to think this is deliberate, to discourage smartass end
users from upgrading 2400s in an "unapproved" (and anti-competitive to
the more expensive Dimensions) way. You know, why buy a 4600 if you
can get a 2400 to do about the same thing for $200 less?

At least they don't force you to buy a "kit" like they do with the missing
floppy brackets. Maybe they could add the "Hard Drive Bracket" option to
the system config screen? What are they getting for these brackets anyways?

I have a 2400 here in England, but when I tried to order a bracket for a
second hard drive I was told that it was not an option. Are you now saying
that Dell market these as an add-on!

--
Barry Turner

"Jim Kent" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 07:37:49 -0500, "Tom Scales"
wrote:

Fully loaded, with added memory for $400?

How can you beat it.

Heh heh heh... I love those little 2400s. There's a lot of bang for
the buck there, -especially- when you and twenty of your best friends
and clients got in on the $200 2400 with free shipping and free CD
burner last November.

Equipped with enough memory, that PC is entirely adequate for the vast
majority of users. Only gamers, graphic designers, and other
compute/graphics-intensive users would find it inadequate. Plus, it's
small, quiet, and consumes practically no power.

Now... If they'd only deliver that box of extra drive brackets I
ordered...

we are saying that they used to sell them in the usa but now sit on the
orders and then cancel them... at least for the last few months. have been
told by some reps that they are no longer available, no substitute part
number, but then others say they are in stock and take the order. very
strange.

"BRT" wrote in message
...
I have a 2400 here in England, but when I tried to order a bracket for a
second hard drive I was told that it was not an option. Are you now
saying
that Dell market these as an add-on!

--
Barry Turner

"Jim Kent" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 07:37:49 -0500, "Tom Scales"
wrote:

Fully loaded, with added memory for $400?

How can you beat it.

Heh heh heh... I love those little 2400s. There's a lot of bang for
the buck there, -especially- when you and twenty of your best friends
and clients got in on the $200 2400 with free shipping and free CD
burner last November.

Equipped with enough memory, that PC is entirely adequate for the vast
majority of users. Only gamers, graphic designers, and other
compute/graphics-intensive users would find it inadequate. Plus, it's
small, quiet, and consumes practically no power.

Now... If they'd only deliver that box of extra drive brackets I
ordered...

nothing was changed. the offer was clearly stated. you were unable to
understand it. here is what it said...

With ANY DimensionTM desktop! Expires 03/31/04 11 p.m. CT.

Right now, receive a FREE hard drive upgrade1 when you purchase ANY DellTM
Dimension desktop! Increase system storage and get more room for the
important files and applications you need to help boost office productivity!

1 Offer valid on first bay only. The Dimension 2400, 4600, 4600C and 8300
hard drive upgrade is from 40GB 7200 RPM to 80GB 7200 RPM; the Dimension XPS
from 80GB 7200RPM to 120GB 7200 RPM.

FREE Upgrade to 80GB 7200 RPM Hard drive
Dimension 2400, 4600, 4600C, 8300 desktops


FREE Upgrade to 120GB 7200 RPM Hard drive
Dimension XPS desktops

Expires 03/31/04.



"yzeew" wrote in message
...
it should properly say "Pay $10 to upgrade from our crappy slow 40GB drive
to a faster 40GB drive, and we'll toss in an extra 40GB of disk space" and
not "free upgrade". there are two actions required and one of them costs
$10.

the offer as stated is misleading which is probably why they changed it.
they were probably getting tons of calls asking why they were getting
charged $10 for a "free upgrade".


"Christopher Muto" wrote in message
...
why is it so difficult for you to grasp that the promotion is for a free
upgrade from a 40gb/7200 rpm drive to a 80gb/7200rpm drive? even you
seem
to acknowledge that you had previously been able to configure the system
with a 40gb/5400rpm but today in most online configuration tools that
option
has been removed. yesterday or today if you had selected the
40gb/7200rpm
drive as the base then the free upgrade to the 80gb/7200rpm is $0 more.
yesterday or today, if you have selected the 80gb/7200rpm drive as the
base
then the free upgrade to the 80gb/7200rpm is -$30.

i think that your problem is that you are stuck on the word 'free' when
you
should try to read what it says and expand your narrow view to what it
actually says: "free upgrade"

but you just seem hell bent on saying that dell and everyone else is
wrong
and seem believe that if you repeat a lie enough it can produce a truth.

now go ahead and have the last word, we both know you can't resist
making
another reply.

"weeeezy" wrote in message
...
you're friggin' nuts. the point is the "free" upgrade isn't "free" if
it
costs somebody $10! don't use the word "free" if there is a charge.
it
is
pure deception. you're just too dense to get it and too stupid to
admit
dell was decieving people or had screwed up the web site.

The web site has now been corrected and the 5200rpm drive isn't even
listed
any more in the 4600 configuration options on the sb side. the $10
charge
is gone as well. both you and dell were wrong. at least dell fixed
it.
you just keep spewing your verbal diareha because you obviously know
everything. keep yabbering and prove yourself an even bigger fool.

FREE UPGRADE! 80GB Ultra ATA/100 7200RPM Hard Drive Special Offer


"Christopher Muto" wrote in message
...
as posted to your thread about the free hard disk upgrade that you
now
belive has now been corrected 'corrected'...

you are delusional.

exactly the same as before... the concept that escapes you is that
the
$
amount associated with selecting any item is relative to the
currently
selected item. if you select a larger drive then the free upgrade
becomes
a
negative number. if you select a drive below what qualifies for the
free
drive you see a positive number. if you select the drive that the
free
upgrade is based on you see zero.

the configuration you were looking at was configured with a basic
40gb/5400rpm 'value' drive. you had an option to upgrade that
choice
to
a
40gb/7200rpm drive for $10 more. and also you had an option to get
a
free
upgrade from the 40gb/7200 drive to an 80gb/7200rpm drive. if you
selected
the 40gb/7200rpm as the base drive then the free upgrade would
indeed
say
add $0.

your failure to grasp this after two days of looking at it and not
reading
the simple detail of the promotion is evidence about the same
defective
thinking that goes into your political views.

"weeezy" wrote in message
...
so it is ok for dell to charge $10 for a "free" item? now that is
defective
thinking. but of course neither you nor dell is capable of error.
interestingly dell has corrected their mistake. i doubt your man
enough
to
do the same.


"Christopher Muto" wrote in message
...

"Thomas G. Marshall"
. com
wrote in message ...

"HH" coughed up the following:
I agree with Thomas. The OP listed the specific tasks he
bought
the
PC
for
and noted it was perfect for those tasks.
HH

(sorry for prior post----ctrl-M problem )

Yeah, I'm not sure what weezy is so angry about. Is he always
like
that?



the names changes, but the flawed logic is consistent. his/her
absurd
rant
about the free hard disk promotion is a clear example about
reaching
conclusions before bothering to collect or understand the facts
(and
lets
everyone understand the defective thinking that goes behind
his/her
political views).

Have you tried ordering the bracket along with a disk drive? Wonder if that
is the missing link?


"news.verizon.net" wrote in message
...
we are saying that they used to sell them in the usa but now sit on the
orders and then cancel them... at least for the last few months. have
been
told by some reps that they are no longer available, no substitute part
number, but then others say they are in stock and take the order. very
strange.

"BRT" wrote in message
...
I have a 2400 here in England, but when I tried to order a bracket for a
second hard drive I was told that it was not an option. Are you now
saying
that Dell market these as an add-on!

--
Barry Turner

"Jim Kent" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 07:37:49 -0500, "Tom Scales"
wrote:

Fully loaded, with added memory for $400?

How can you beat it.

Heh heh heh... I love those little 2400s. There's a lot of bang for
the buck there, -especially- when you and twenty of your best friends
and clients got in on the $200 2400 with free shipping and free CD
burner last November.

Equipped with enough memory, that PC is entirely adequate for the vast
majority of users. Only gamers, graphic designers, and other
compute/graphics-intensive users would find it inadequate. Plus, it's
small, quiet, and consumes practically no power.

Now... If they'd only deliver that box of extra drive brackets I
ordered...

At this point I'd just say "give up" for now: Duct tape the drive someplace
on the inside of the chassis so that air will travel on both sides of it.
If you can't find a good spot, then place something between the HD and the
chassis and then duct tape the lot.

Close up the system case, forget you did that, and get on with your life



john coughed up the following:

Have you tried ordering the bracket along with a disk drive? Wonder
if that is the missing link?


"news.verizon.net" wrote in message
...
we are saying that they used to sell them in the usa but now sit on
the orders and then cancel them... at least for the last few months.
have been told by some reps that they are no longer available, no
substitute part number, but then others say they are in stock and
take the order. very strange.

"BRT" wrote in message
...
I have a 2400 here in England, but when I tried to order a bracket
for a second hard drive I was told that it was not an option. Are
you now saying that Dell market these as an add-on!

--
Barry Turner

"Jim Kent" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 07:37:49 -0500, "Tom Scales"
wrote:

Fully loaded, with added memory for $400?

How can you beat it.

Heh heh heh... I love those little 2400s. There's a lot of bang
for the buck there, -especially- when you and twenty of your best
friends and clients got in on the $200 2400 with free shipping and
free CD burner last November.

Equipped with enough memory, that PC is entirely adequate for the
vast majority of users. Only gamers, graphic designers, and other
compute/graphics-intensive users would find it inadequate. Plus,
it's small, quiet, and consumes practically no power.

Now... If they'd only deliver that box of extra drive brackets I
ordered...

Didn't Abbot and Costello do this routine once?


Christopher Muto coughed up the following:

nothing was changed. the offer was clearly stated. you were unable to
understand it. here is what it said...

With ANY DimensionTM desktop! Expires 03/31/04 11 p.m. CT.

Right now, receive a FREE hard drive upgrade1 when you purchase ANY
DellTM Dimension desktop! Increase system storage and get more room
for the important files and applications you need to help boost
office productivity!

1 Offer valid on first bay only. The Dimension 2400, 4600, 4600C and
8300 hard drive upgrade is from 40GB 7200 RPM to 80GB 7200 RPM; the
Dimension XPS from 80GB 7200RPM to 120GB 7200 RPM.

FREE Upgrade to 80GB 7200 RPM Hard drive
Dimension 2400, 4600, 4600C, 8300 desktops


FREE Upgrade to 120GB 7200 RPM Hard drive
Dimension XPS desktops

Expires 03/31/04.



"yzeew" wrote in message
...
it should properly say "Pay $10 to upgrade from our crappy slow 40GB
drive to a faster 40GB drive, and we'll toss in an extra 40GB of
disk space" and not "free upgrade". there are two actions required
and one of them costs $10.

the offer as stated is misleading which is probably why they changed
it. they were probably getting tons of calls asking why they were
getting charged $10 for a "free upgrade".


"Christopher Muto" wrote in message
...
why is it so difficult for you to grasp that the promotion is for a
free upgrade from a 40gb/7200 rpm drive to a 80gb/7200rpm drive?
even you seem to acknowledge that you had previously been able to
configure the system with a 40gb/5400rpm but today in most online
configuration tools that option has been removed. yesterday or
today if you had selected the 40gb/7200rpm drive as the base then
the free upgrade to the 80gb/7200rpm is $0 more. yesterday or
today, if you have selected the 80gb/7200rpm drive as the base then
the free upgrade to the 80gb/7200rpm is -$30.

i think that your problem is that you are stuck on the word 'free'
when you should try to read what it says and expand your narrow
view to what it actually says: "free upgrade"

but you just seem hell bent on saying that dell and everyone else
is wrong and seem believe that if you repeat a lie enough it can
produce a truth.

now go ahead and have the last word, we both know you can't resist
making another reply.

"weeeezy" wrote in message
...
you're friggin' nuts. the point is the "free" upgrade isn't
"free" if it costs somebody $10! don't use the word "free" if
there is a charge. it is pure deception. you're just too dense to
get it and too stupid to admit dell was decieving people or had
screwed up the web site.

The web site has now been corrected and the 5200rpm drive isn't
even listed any more in the 4600 configuration options on the sb
side. the $10 charge is gone as well. both you and dell were
wrong. at least dell fixed it. you just keep spewing your verbal
diareha because you obviously know everything. keep yabbering and
prove yourself an even bigger fool.

FREE UPGRADE! 80GB Ultra ATA/100 7200RPM Hard Drive Special Offer


"Christopher Muto" wrote in message
...
as posted to your thread about the free hard disk upgrade that
you now belive has now been corrected 'corrected'...

you are delusional.

exactly the same as before... the concept that escapes you is
that the $ amount associated with selecting any item is relative
to the currently selected item. if you select a larger drive
then the free upgrade becomes a negative number. if you select a
drive below what qualifies for the free drive you see a positive
number. if you select the drive that the free upgrade is based
on you see zero.

the configuration you were looking at was configured with a basic
40gb/5400rpm 'value' drive. you had an option to upgrade that
choice
to
a
40gb/7200rpm drive for $10 more. and also you had an option to
get a free upgrade from the 40gb/7200 drive to an 80gb/7200rpm
drive. if you selected the 40gb/7200rpm as the base drive then
the free upgrade would indeed say add $0.

your failure to grasp this after two days of looking at it and
not reading the simple detail of the promotion is evidence about
the same defective thinking that goes into your political views.

"weeezy" wrote in message
...
so it is ok for dell to charge $10 for a "free" item? now that
is defective thinking. but of course neither you nor dell is
capable of error. interestingly dell has corrected their
mistake. i doubt your man enough to do the same.


"Christopher Muto" wrote in message
...

"Thomas G. Marshall"
. com wrote in
message ...

"HH" coughed up the following:
I agree with Thomas. The OP listed the specific tasks he
bought
the
PC
for
and noted it was perfect for those tasks.
HH

(sorry for prior post----ctrl-M problem )

Yeah, I'm not sure what weezy is so angry about. Is he always
like that?



the names changes, but the flawed logic is consistent. his/her
absurd rant about the free hard disk promotion is a clear
example about reaching conclusions before bothering to collect
or understand the facts (and lets everyone understand the
defective thinking that goes behind his/her political views).

yes, and it wasn't funny when they did it either, but raymond babbitt ("rain
man") enjoyed it.

"Thomas G. Marshall" . com
wrote in message ...

Didn't Abbot and Costello do this routine once?


Christopher Muto coughed up the following:

nothing was changed. the offer was clearly stated. you were unable to
understand it. here is what it said...

With ANY DimensionTM desktop! Expires 03/31/04 11 p.m. CT.

Right now, receive a FREE hard drive upgrade1 when you purchase ANY
DellTM Dimension desktop! Increase system storage and get more room
for the important files and applications you need to help boost
office productivity!

1 Offer valid on first bay only. The Dimension 2400, 4600, 4600C and
8300 hard drive upgrade is from 40GB 7200 RPM to 80GB 7200 RPM; the
Dimension XPS from 80GB 7200RPM to 120GB 7200 RPM.

FREE Upgrade to 80GB 7200 RPM Hard drive
Dimension 2400, 4600, 4600C, 8300 desktops


FREE Upgrade to 120GB 7200 RPM Hard drive
Dimension XPS desktops

Expires 03/31/04.



"yzeew" wrote in message
...
it should properly say "Pay $10 to upgrade from our crappy slow 40GB
drive to a faster 40GB drive, and we'll toss in an extra 40GB of
disk space" and not "free upgrade". there are two actions required
and one of them costs $10.

the offer as stated is misleading which is probably why they changed
it. they were probably getting tons of calls asking why they were
getting charged $10 for a "free upgrade".


"Christopher Muto" wrote in message
...
why is it so difficult for you to grasp that the promotion is for a
free upgrade from a 40gb/7200 rpm drive to a 80gb/7200rpm drive?
even you seem to acknowledge that you had previously been able to
configure the system with a 40gb/5400rpm but today in most online
configuration tools that option has been removed. yesterday or
today if you had selected the 40gb/7200rpm drive as the base then
the free upgrade to the 80gb/7200rpm is $0 more. yesterday or
today, if you have selected the 80gb/7200rpm drive as the base then
the free upgrade to the 80gb/7200rpm is -$30.

i think that your problem is that you are stuck on the word 'free'
when you should try to read what it says and expand your narrow
view to what it actually says: "free upgrade"

but you just seem hell bent on saying that dell and everyone else
is wrong and seem believe that if you repeat a lie enough it can
produce a truth.

now go ahead and have the last word, we both know you can't resist
making another reply.

"weeeezy" wrote in message
...
you're friggin' nuts. the point is the "free" upgrade isn't
"free" if it costs somebody $10! don't use the word "free" if
there is a charge. it is pure deception. you're just too dense to
get it and too stupid to admit dell was decieving people or had
screwed up the web site.

The web site has now been corrected and the 5200rpm drive isn't
even listed any more in the 4600 configuration options on the sb
side. the $10 charge is gone as well. both you and dell were
wrong. at least dell fixed it. you just keep spewing your verbal
diareha because you obviously know everything. keep yabbering and
prove yourself an even bigger fool.

FREE UPGRADE! 80GB Ultra ATA/100 7200RPM Hard Drive Special Offer


"Christopher Muto" wrote in message
...
as posted to your thread about the free hard disk upgrade that
you now belive has now been corrected 'corrected'...

you are delusional.

exactly the same as before... the concept that escapes you is
that the $ amount associated with selecting any item is relative
to the currently selected item. if you select a larger drive
then the free upgrade becomes a negative number. if you select a
drive below what qualifies for the free drive you see a positive
number. if you select the drive that the free upgrade is based
on you see zero.

the configuration you were looking at was configured with a basic
40gb/5400rpm 'value' drive. you had an option to upgrade that
choice
to
a
40gb/7200rpm drive for $10 more. and also you had an option to
get a free upgrade from the 40gb/7200 drive to an 80gb/7200rpm
drive. if you selected the 40gb/7200rpm as the base drive then
the free upgrade would indeed say add $0.

your failure to grasp this after two days of looking at it and
not reading the simple detail of the promotion is evidence about
the same defective thinking that goes into your political views.

"weeezy" wrote in message
...
so it is ok for dell to charge $10 for a "free" item? now that
is defective thinking. but of course neither you nor dell is
capable of error. interestingly dell has corrected their
mistake. i doubt your man enough to do the same.


"Christopher Muto" wrote in message
...

"Thomas G. Marshall"
. com wrote in
message ...

"HH" coughed up the following:
I agree with Thomas. The OP listed the specific tasks he
bought
the
PC
for
and noted it was perfect for those tasks.
HH

(sorry for prior post----ctrl-M problem )

Yeah, I'm not sure what weezy is so angry about. Is he always
like that?



the names changes, but the flawed logic is consistent. his/her
absurd rant about the free hard disk promotion is a clear
example about reaching conclusions before bothering to collect
or understand the facts (and lets everyone understand the
defective thinking that goes behind his/her political views).

You mean like the guy in the Dell commercial duct taping everything
together? Without Dell supplying the brackets I guess they leave little
choice than to watch their commercial and pick up a few installation tips!
;-)


"Thomas G. Marshall" . com
wrote in message ...

At this point I'd just say "give up" for now: Duct tape the drive
someplace
on the inside of the chassis so that air will travel on both sides of it.
If you can't find a good spot, then place something between the HD and the
chassis and then duct tape the lot.

Close up the system case, forget you did that, and get on with your life




john coughed up the following:

Have you tried ordering the bracket along with a disk drive? Wonder
if that is the missing link?


"news.verizon.net" wrote in message
...
we are saying that they used to sell them in the usa but now sit on
the orders and then cancel them... at least for the last few months.
have been told by some reps that they are no longer available, no
substitute part number, but then others say they are in stock and
take the order. very strange.

"BRT" wrote in message
...
I have a 2400 here in England, but when I tried to order a bracket
for a second hard drive I was told that it was not an option. Are
you now saying that Dell market these as an add-on!

--
Barry Turner

"Jim Kent" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 07:37:49 -0500, "Tom Scales"
wrote:

Fully loaded, with added memory for $400?

How can you beat it.

Heh heh heh... I love those little 2400s. There's a lot of bang
for the buck there, -especially- when you and twenty of your best
friends and clients got in on the $200 2400 with free shipping and
free CD burner last November.

Equipped with enough memory, that PC is entirely adequate for the
vast majority of users. Only gamers, graphic designers, and other
compute/graphics-intensive users would find it inadequate. Plus,
it's small, quiet, and consumes practically no power.

Now... If they'd only deliver that box of extra drive brackets I
ordered...