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Little warning: USB is broken: USB 2.0/3.0 doesn't work on USB 1.0
Sigh,
As far as I know nobody made a video about how usb 2.0/3.0 external harddisks and usb sticks can't work on usb 1.0. The manufacturers kinda implicitely/indirectly mention this but not mentioning usb 1.0 backwards compatibility. So basically this means the USB STANDARD IS BROKEN and therefore it sucks ballz. This video shows the mentioning on the packages and websites: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_2xH--E_o0 It also explores wikipedia, there is very little information about WHY it's not backward compatible. What is even worse about this is: The usb 2.0 and usb 3.0 plugs will fit in a usb 1.0 port. Making people believe that maybe it will work on computers and windows xp. I tried this yesterday and windows xp did detect the drive a little bit, but for some reason couldn't read or write or make it show up in windows explorer. So now I am not sure what is going on. Is it a windows xp limitation ? Is it a driver issue ? Like many peope might believe, they will start messing around, but what if it can never work ?!?!?! It wastes their time... and therefore manufacturers and the usb "comitee" that made this standard should be somewhat ashamed of themselfes ! This problem can still be corrected by being HONEST about it and TELLING people STRAIGHT to their FACES why it won't work. Perhaps these ****ers don't even know WHY it won't work ?! WHAT THE **** MAN ?!. So let this be a HEADS up in case you think you can use these devices on old computers. Only if they are not that old and have usb 2.0.... but usb 1.0 computers ?!?!?!? Not according to them ?! good luck figuring out which usb ports your computer supports ?! If somebody still knows a hack how to get this working on usb 1.0 ports I still be interested ! =D Maybe they just disabled it because it might be slow, big mistake... Slow drives can still be usefull for getting data off of old machines. Beats unsafe internet connections ! Now you know, somewhat, and knowing somewhat, is HALF the battle G.I. JOEEE ! =D Bye, Skybuck. |
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Little warning: USB is broken: USB 2.0/3.0 doesn't work on USB 1.0
HOLY****.
PENTIUM 3 actually has USB 2.0 PORTS. NOW I LOOK LIKE A FOOL =D I FEEL EMBARRESSED LOL. DELETING MY YOUTUBE VIDEO QUICKLY. SORRY FOLKS FOR SCREAMING AT YOU ! LOL. Bye, Skybuck =D P.S.: Let's pretend this never happened you are also part to blame with all your ****ty usb versions :PPPPP****** HAHA. |
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Little warning: USB is broken: USB 2.0/3.0 doesn't work on USB 1.0
On Wednesday, January 1, 2020 at 7:36:17 AM UTC+1, wrote:
HOLY****. PENTIUM 3 actually has USB 2.0 PORTS. NOW I LOOK LIKE A FOOL =D I FEEL EMBARRESSED LOL. DELETING MY YOUTUBE VIDEO QUICKLY. SORRY FOLKS FOR SCREAMING AT YOU ! LOL. Bye, Skybuck =D P.S.: Let's pretend this never happened you are also part to blame with all your ****ty usb versions :PPPPP****** HAHA. OH **** I CONSULATED THE WRONG MOTHERBOARD MANUAL. NF4SK is for Socket 939... not pentium 3 LOL. It's late OH MY GOD ****. Bye for now, Gotta find correct manual gjez. Bye, Skybuck. |
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Little warning: USB is broken: USB 2.0/3.0 doesn't work on USB 1.0
Correct manual if you can call it that, just some specs is 694x.pdf:
97&; $SROOR3UR$ 0+] 6LQJOH&KLS6ORW6RFNHW1RUWK%ULGJH IRU'HVNWRSDQG0RELOH3&6\VWHPV ZLWK$*3[DQG3&, SOXV$GYDQFHG(&&0HPRU\&RQWUROOHU VXSSRUWLQJ3&3&6'5$0 9LUWXDO&KDQQHO0HPRU\9&0 (6'5$0 5HYLVLRQ 6HSWHPEHU 9,$7(&+12/2*,(6,1& Great can;t copy pasteit... thanks acrobat reader ! VIA Apollo pro chipset . Probably USB 1.0 ports damn ! I was right all along... re-uploading video ! LOL. Bye, Skybuck. |
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Little warning: USB is broken: USB 2.0/3.0 doesn't work on USB 1.0
LOL OK NOT GOING TO RE-UPLOAD VIDEO,
CAUSE I AM NOT CONVINCED IT'S AN USB 1.0 problem. First I will try usb stick and maybe partition harddisks and try again. This might take days or weeks or months... because I wanna do something else first mostly... But I will re-investigate this issue in future and report back if drives or usb stick dont work ! Consider this issue half-solved, open and remaining a slight mystery for now. Bye for now, Skybuck. |
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Little warning: USB is broken: USB 2.0/3.0 doesn't work on USB1.0
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Little warning: USB is broken: USB 2.0/3.0 doesn't work on USB1.0
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Correct manual if you can call it that, just some specs is 694x.pdf: 97&; $SROOR3UR$ Great can;t copy pasteit... thanks acrobat reader ! It's got a few fonts with custom encoding. And those are the ones that don't copy/paste properly. https://web.archive.org/web/20040707...tinfo/694X.pdf Paul |
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Little warning: USB is broken: USB 2.0/3.0 doesn't work on USB1.0
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Sigh, As far as I know nobody made a video about how usb 2.0/3.0 external harddisks and usb sticks can't work on usb 1.0. The manufacturers kinda implicitely/indirectly mention this but not mentioning usb 1.0 backwards compatibility. So basically this means the USB STANDARD IS BROKEN and therefore it sucks ballz. This video shows the mentioning on the packages and websites: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_2xH--E_o0 It also explores wikipedia, there is very little information about WHY it's not backward compatible. What is even worse about this is: The usb 2.0 and usb 3.0 plugs will fit in a usb 1.0 port. Making people believe that maybe it will work on computers and windows xp. I tried this yesterday and windows xp did detect the drive a little bit, but for some reason couldn't read or write or make it show up in windows explorer. So now I am not sure what is going on. Is it a windows xp limitation ? Is it a driver issue ? Like many peope might believe, they will start messing around, but what if it can never work ?!?!?! It wastes their time... and therefore manufacturers and the usb "comitee" that made this standard should be somewhat ashamed of themselfes ! This problem can still be corrected by being HONEST about it and TELLING people STRAIGHT to their FACES why it won't work. Perhaps these ****ers don't even know WHY it won't work ?! WHAT THE **** MAN ?!. So let this be a HEADS up in case you think you can use these devices on old computers. Only if they are not that old and have usb 2.0.... but usb 1.0 computers ?!?!?!? Not according to them ?! good luck figuring out which usb ports your computer supports ?! If somebody still knows a hack how to get this working on usb 1.0 ports I still be interested ! =D Maybe they just disabled it because it might be slow, big mistake... Slow drives can still be usefull for getting data off of old machines. Beats unsafe internet connections ! Now you know, somewhat, and knowing somewhat, is HALF the battle G.I. JOEEE ! =D Bye, Skybuck. I got this working by the way. P4 1.8GHz 845 Northbridge ICH2 Southbridge 2 USB 1.1 ports 512MB RAM I booted it with BionicPup 32-bit. http://puppylinux.com/index.html#download http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux...2-8.0-uefi.iso I plugged in the USB3 Sandisk Flash, and the file systems on it mounted. If I'd used Win98, then without some help, it wouldn't have worked. I'd need the Maximus Decim NUSB drivers for USB Mass Storage class to work. And Maximus doesn't work with all chipsets either. You just need the right OS to encourage it to work. Or have the driver disc from way back when. One or the other. The USB3 stick has USB3 pins and USB2 pins. The USB2 pins contact the USB1.1 jack and the USB2 pins are the ones that are backward compatible with USB1.1. Eventually there will be USB versions that don't work with USB1.1. I don't own anything (yet) that doesn't work. Paul |
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Little warning: USB is broken: USB 2.0/3.0 doesn't work on USB 1.0
On Friday, January 3, 2020 at 9:14:12 AM UTC+1, Paul wrote:
wrote: Sigh, As far as I know nobody made a video about how usb 2.0/3.0 external harddisks and usb sticks can't work on usb 1.0. The manufacturers kinda implicitely/indirectly mention this but not mentioning usb 1.0 backwards compatibility. So basically this means the USB STANDARD IS BROKEN and therefore it sucks ballz. This video shows the mentioning on the packages and websites: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_2xH--E_o0 It also explores wikipedia, there is very little information about WHY it's not backward compatible. What is even worse about this is: The usb 2.0 and usb 3.0 plugs will fit in a usb 1.0 port. Making people believe that maybe it will work on computers and windows xp. I tried this yesterday and windows xp did detect the drive a little bit, but for some reason couldn't read or write or make it show up in windows explorer. So now I am not sure what is going on. Is it a windows xp limitation ? Is it a driver issue ? Like many peope might believe, they will start messing around, but what if it can never work ?!?!?! It wastes their time... and therefore manufacturers and the usb "comitee" that made this standard should be somewhat ashamed of themselfes ! This problem can still be corrected by being HONEST about it and TELLING people STRAIGHT to their FACES why it won't work. Perhaps these ****ers don't even know WHY it won't work ?! WHAT THE **** MAN ?!. So let this be a HEADS up in case you think you can use these devices on old computers. Only if they are not that old and have usb 2.0.... but usb 1.0 computers ?!?!?!? Not according to them ?! good luck figuring out which usb ports your computer supports ?! If somebody still knows a hack how to get this working on usb 1.0 ports I still be interested ! =D Maybe they just disabled it because it might be slow, big mistake... Slow drives can still be usefull for getting data off of old machines. Beats unsafe internet connections ! Now you know, somewhat, and knowing somewhat, is HALF the battle G.I. JOEEE ! =D Bye, Skybuck. I got this working by the way. P4 1.8GHz 845 Northbridge ICH2 Southbridge 2 USB 1.1 ports 512MB RAM I booted it with BionicPup 32-bit. http://puppylinux.com/index.html#download http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux...2-8.0-uefi.iso I plugged in the USB3 Sandisk Flash, and the file systems on it mounted. If I'd used Win98, then without some help, it wouldn't have worked. I'd need the Maximus Decim NUSB drivers for USB Mass Storage class to work. And Maximus doesn't work with all chipsets either. You just need the right OS to encourage it to work. Or have the driver disc from way back when. One or the other. The USB3 stick has USB3 pins and USB2 pins. The USB2 pins contact the USB1.1 jack and the USB2 pins are the ones that are backward compatible with USB1.1. Eventually there will be USB versions that don't work with USB1.1. I don't own anything (yet) that doesn't work. Paul OK Paul, thanks for trying this out ! I have never heard of puppy linux so this is new ?! I have two questions for you: How the hell are file systems/sectors/clusters transferred over USB ?! I am still mystified even after reading usb 3.1 specification. Maybe it's scsi protocol on top of it, or something microsoft specific ? You know anything about that ?! Second question: How the hell do I mount a VHD in Linux ?! =D I know Linux does things differently with scripts and automation and downloading software but I kinda like VHD/containers-like-approach for my own data and portability. I don't get why Linux doesn't seem to support virtual harddisks out of the box, feels very weird and alien to me. Bye, Skybuck =D |
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