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If you have enough data connectors, you may find it easier to switch the
power There's a BIG warning on that one. Seems there's a way to generate a big spark even when off. I don't want to network any more than I have to .. too many cheap little power thingys to plug in .. and no place to plug them. Then go to wireless, and they are flakey. With my manual switches, I keep plenty of speed .... save power ... and always reliable. johns |
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that with a removeable HD tray. *They're sometimes
called "hard drive caddies" or "mobile racks". *Kingwin makes/imports a big selection of them, thanks. I see them. Looks like it is time to get on the phone to these guys. I've got to pin down their stuff about the box fans. My game box uses fan controllers to keep the noise down. Easy to do with 120 mm fans at 800 rpm. Not so easy with the small fans. I'm using the Antec Game case with big fans in front too. Grrrr ! It is always something. These cases will certainly work if I can get one that is mostly hands off .. like a manual sata switch would be. Another problem "might" be that many kinds of connectors are designed to be used only a few times. Slidding connectors .. like sata cables .. are probably good for 10 changes, and then they get loose. A few hot swaps is OK. But I would be switching from XP to 7 every single day while I train up on 7. Eventually I'll move to 7 totally ( I think ), but XP has been mighty good to me over the years. johns |
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On Mon, 08 Nov 2010 11:34:50 -0800, johns wrote:
If you have enough data connectors, you may find it easier to switch the power There's a BIG warning on that one. Seems there's a way to generate a big spark even when off. How is that going to generate a spark, when there's no power (it's off)? I don't want to network any more than I have to .. too many cheap little power thingys to plug in .. and no place to plug them. That could be as few as ONE. Use a router with a network switch in the same package. Then go to wireless, and they are flakey. Wireless does have those problems. One reason I avoid it when I can. A cable (2 active pairs of copper wires) is a lot simpler (and so more reliable) that what it takes to make a wireless connection. With my manual switches, I keep plenty of speed ... save power ... and always reliable. More work you you, and more errors (when you forget, or when a program running unattended needs internet access). Networking makes the devices available at all times. johns -- 47 days until The winter celebration (Saturday December 25, 2010 12:00:00 AM). Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us "Heresy is only another word for freedom of thought." -- Graham Greene, 1981 |
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"Mark Lloyd" wrote:
Timothy Daniels wrote: [snip] Or, you can do as I do: Feed each of your internal hard drives' power cables through DPST micro toggle switches and enable or disable the HD by switching its power on or off. Is there some benefit to using separate switches rather than one multi- position switch? Sometimes. In my situation, I wanted to keep 2 HDs running so that I could copy clones of the OS on HD0 to HD1 or HD2, then shut down the destination HD. But I also used separate switches because they would fit the existing 1/4" holes in the front of the case. I didn't want to do any drilling through the case for fear that some loose metal chip would short something out. BTW, I actually used DPDT switches wired as DPST. You could probably get away with switching just a single pole, but I didn't want to experiment. *TimDaniels* |
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"Mark Lloyd" wrote:
Timothy Daniels wrote: [snip] if the only issue is fear of loosing an install of a drive why not just disable in the BIOS? |
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chuckster wrote:
"Mark Lloyd" wrote: Timothy Daniels wrote: [snip] if the only issue is fear of loosing an install of a drive why not just disable in the BIOS? I tried that once, and it doesn't work. Some OSes are so clever, they'll re-enable the drives! (Linux) Paul |
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On Mon, 08 Nov 2010 17:23:07 -0800, Timothy Daniels wrote:
"Mark Lloyd" wrote: Timothy Daniels wrote: [snip] Or, you can do as I do: Feed each of your internal hard drives' power cables through DPST micro toggle switches and enable or disable the HD by switching its power on or off. Is there some benefit to using separate switches rather than one multi- position switch? Sometimes. In my situation, I wanted to keep 2 HDs running so that I could copy clones of the OS on HD0 to HD1 or HD2, then shut down the destination HD. But I also used separate switches because they would fit the existing 1/4" holes in the front of the case. I didn't want to do any drilling through the case for fear that some loose metal chip would short something out. BTW, I actually used DPDT switches wired as DPST. You could probably get away with switching just a single pole, but I didn't want to experiment. *TimDaniels* I haven't done it yet, but wasn't going to drill through the case but through a small piece of plastic that covers one of the unused 5.25-inch bays. I suppose you switched both +5V and +12V. -- 45 days until The winter celebration (Saturday December 25, 2010 12:00:00 AM). Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us "I have found Christian dogma unintelligible. Early in life I absented myself from Christian assemblies." -- Benjamin Franklin |
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On Wed, 10 Nov 2010 23:54:32 +0000, chuckster wrote:
"Mark Lloyd" wrote: Timothy Daniels wrote: [snip] if the only issue is fear of loosing an install of a drive why not just disable in the BIOS? Entering the BIOS, disabling one drive, enabling the other, and making sure the boot drive is set right is a lot more work than flipping 1 or 2 toggle switches. BTW, the word you wasted above is LOSING. You overdid it on the 'o' key. -- 45 days until The winter celebration (Saturday December 25, 2010 12:00:00 AM). Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us "I have found Christian dogma unintelligible. Early in life I absented myself from Christian assemblies." -- Benjamin Franklin |
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"Mark Lloyd" wrote:
Timothy Daniels wrote: "Mark Lloyd" wrote: Timothy Daniels wrote: [snip] Or, you can do as I do: Feed each of your internal hard drives' power cables through DPST micro toggle switches and enable or disable the HD by switching its power on or off. Is there some benefit to using separate switches rather than one multi- position switch? Sometimes. In my situation, I wanted to keep 2 HDs running so that I could copy clones of the OS on HD0 to HD1 or HD2, then shut down the destination HD. But I also used separate switches because they would fit the existing 1/4" holes in the front of the case. I didn't want to do any drilling through the case for fear that some loose metal chip would short something out. BTW, I actually used DPDT switches wired as DPST. You could probably get away with switching just a single pole, but I didn't want to experiment. *TimDaniels* I haven't done it yet, but wasn't going to drill through the case but through a small piece of plastic that covers one of the unused 5.25-inch bays. I suppose you switched both +5V and +12V. Yup, I switch 'em both. I assume that the 12V is for the motor, and the 5V is for the electronics, and I switch 'em on the positive side of the hard drive. I don't know if that is the minimal operation, but I didn't want to experiment with switching just one voltage. Be careful, though. I got one connection wrong the on the first try, and I burnt a fuse on the circuit card and lost a HD. There was a quiet "snap" and the mild smell of burnt circuitry. :-) *TimDaniels* |
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spelling errors. was: Dual boot XP - Win7
"Timothy Daniels" observed:
"Mark Lloyd" corrected: [....] BTW, the word you wasted above is LOSING. You overdid it on the 'o' key. Mispelling the word "lose" is the most common spelling error on Usenet. The second most commonly mispelled word is "separate". Most people, it seems, spell fonetikalee. And... of course, I misspelled "misspell". :-( *TimDaniels* |
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