OT Bill Gates "population control with vaccines"

If you don't want to read further, this is the question.

Are vaccines used for birth control?

I thought the claim was strange, and maybe Bill Gates misspoke,
but...

Here is the YouTube video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9vZL...eature=related

Here is the point of interest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?
feature=player_detailpage&v=T9vZLlJhI7o#t=120s

He says "if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care,
reproductive health services...we could lower the population by 10 or
15%".

Vaccines are used for birth control?

I would ask the same about "health care", but everybody knows what
health care is (or at least what it is supposed to be).

I would ask the same about "health care", but everybody knows what
health care is (or at least what it is supposed to be).

Ask him what incest is!

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On Fri, 11 May 2012 12:44:47 +0000 (UTC), John Doe
wrote:

If you don't want to read further, this is the question.

Are vaccines used for birth control?

I thought the claim was strange, and maybe Bill Gates misspoke,
but...

Here is the YouTube video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9vZL...eature=related

Here is the point of interest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?
feature=player_detailpage&v=T9vZLlJhI7o#t=120s

He says "if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care,
reproductive health services...we could lower the population by 10 or
15%".

Vaccines are used for birth control?

I would ask the same about "health care", but everybody knows what
health care is (or at least what it is supposed to be).

You say that like that would be a bad thing. Help people that insist
on having more kids than they can feed do a little family planning.
They certainly are not doing any planning of any kind.

I think it is a brilliant idea. A really simple solution to human
suffering is to have less humans. The population growth can't
continue. It will stop. The most humane way to do that is to lower
births.

In article , Metspitzer wrote:
On Fri, 11 May 2012 12:44:47 +0000 (UTC), John Doe
wrote:

If you don't want to read further, this is the question.

Are vaccines used for birth control?

I thought the claim was strange, and maybe Bill Gates misspoke,
but...

Here is the YouTube video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9vZL...eature=related

Here is the point of interest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?
feature=player_detailpage&v=T9vZLlJhI7o#t=120s

He says "if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care,
reproductive health services...we could lower the population by 10 or
15%".

Vaccines are used for birth control?

I would ask the same about "health care", but everybody knows what
health care is (or at least what it is supposed to be).

You say that like that would be a bad thing. Help people that insist
on having more kids than they can feed do a little family planning.
They certainly are not doing any planning of any kind.

I think it is a brilliant idea. A really simple solution to human
suffering is to have less humans. The population growth can't
continue. It will stop. The most humane way to do that is to lower
births.

Like China?

John Doe wrote:
If you don't want to read further, this is the question.

Are vaccines used for birth control?

He says "if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care,
reproductive health services...we could lower the population by 10 or
15%".

Vaccines are used for birth control?

Reproductive health services, includes educating people how reproduction
occurs, and how to stop it. That includes tying tubes or vasectomy, for
couples that have had enough children, and would prefer to stop having them.

You might think it funny, but there are couples who don't know how to
stop having children.

Vaccines are used to cure perfectly preventable conditions, such as HPV.
HPV causes cancer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hpv

Anything Bill Gates introduces, has to be approved by local health
authorities.

Paul

Metspitzer wrote:


I think it is a brilliant idea. A really simple solution to human
suffering is to have less humans. The population growth can't
continue. It will stop. The most humane way to do that is to lower
births.

It will stop, no matter what you do. It's called a sigmoid curve.

http://www.ibguides.com/images/biology/5.3.1.png

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logistic_function

"A typical application of the logistic equation is a common model of
population growth, originally due to Pierre-François Verhulst in 1838,
where the rate of reproduction is proportional to both the existing
population and the amount of available resources, all else being equal."

If you test that with single cell organisms, you're likely to get
the requisite (sigmoid) shape.

When human population is "resource limited", the shape of the
curve is not likely to be smooth. Likely some big downward spikes.
That's where intelligence fits in. And lethality multipliers.

At the moment, I don't see intelligence playing much of a part.

Paul

"John Doe" wrote:
Are vaccines used for birth control?

I thought the claim was strange, and maybe Bill Gates misspoke,
but...

Here is the YouTube video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9vZL...eature=related

Here is the point of interest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?
feature=player_detailpage&v=T9vZLlJhI7o#t=120s

He says "if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care,
reproductive health services...we could lower the population by 10 or
15%".

Vaccines are used for birth control?

I would ask the same about "health care", but everybody knows what
health care is (or at least what it is supposed to be).

Health care reduces population growth because couples no longer
have to produce 10 kids to have 2 survive long enough to care for
the couple in their old age. There will be an initial upsurge in kids,
but it will taper off as couples realize that 2 or 3 kids is enough
insurance for their old age. And with fewer kids, more resources
can go into education and, of course, more health care.

*TimDaniels*

On Fri, 11 May 2012 12:44:47 +0000 (UTC), John Doe
wrote:

If you don't want to read further, this is the question.

Are vaccines used for birth control?

I thought the claim was strange, and maybe Bill Gates misspoke,
but...

Here is the YouTube video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9vZL...eature=related

Here is the point of interest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?
feature=player_detailpage&v=T9vZLlJhI7o#t=120s

He says "if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care,
reproductive health services...we could lower the population by 10 or
15%".

Vaccines are used for birth control?

I would ask the same about "health care", but everybody knows what
health care is (or at least what it is supposed to be).

I just discovered a group of podcasts yesterday. The one I am looking
for was mentioned in a RSS feed. I didn't find the one I was looking
for but I saved the list:
http://itunes.apple.com/podcast/amer...ry/id305194792
The one called "The New Universe and the Human Future" talks about
exponential growth.

It is a little dry, but it talks about doubling algae in a pond
doesn't seem to be much of a problem until the last two cycles.

On Fri, 11 May 2012 12:44:47 +0000 (UTC), John Doe
wrote:

He says "if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care,
reproductive health services...we could lower the population by 10 or
15%".

Vaccines are used for birth control?

I would ask the same about "health care", but everybody knows what
health care is (or at least what it is supposed to be).

Note "reproductive health services" in your quote.

On 11/05/2012 19:30, Loren Pechtel wrote:
On Fri, 11 May 2012 12:44:47 +0000 (UTC), John Doe
wrote:

He says "if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care,
reproductive health services...we could lower the population by 10 or
15%".

Vaccines are used for birth control?

I would ask the same about "health care", but everybody knows what
health care is (or at least what it is supposed to be).

Note "reproductive health services" in your quote.

It's time that humans stopped breeding like rodents and give our
polluted planet a chance to recover.