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Pluvious wrote:
On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 18:38:52 -0800, Heywood wrote: You may try enabling cleartype in XP....It is made for flatpanel LCD displays etc. From XP Help.... "Open Display in Control Panel. On the Appearance tab, click Effects. In the Effects dialog box, select the Use the following method to smooth edges of screen fonts check box. Click ClearType in the list. " Notes "To open Display, click Start, click Control Panel, and then double-click Display. ClearType is ideal for portable computer and other flat screen monitors. ClearType may appear slightly blurry on desktop computer monitors. Whether you select Standard or ClearType from the list, you must have a video card and monitor that support a color setting of at least 256 colors. Best results are achieved with High color (24-bit) or Highest color (32-bit) support. Click the Settings tab to set Color quality." After following these instuctions check out this M$ site to fine tune it. http://www.microsoft.com/typography/...ame=%20&fsize= Pluvious Thanks for the link ... ran it and improved the look of the type but ghosting persists. |
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Thomas
How about your LCD monitor settings ? On your LCD monitor MENU if you have a Phase and or Clock adjustment try them. I have found that the Phase adjustment can crisp up the text quite a bit on LCD monitors. The Auto button does not always do the best job in adjusting the settings of a LCD monitor. Rich "Thomas Gill" wrote in message news:He1Ad.600767$%k.385757@pd7tw2no... I am maybe in the wrong forum for this question but here it is: Have just purchased a new 17" LCD monitor and notice that all text is displayed with ghosting to the left of the letter. My video card is an ATI 9200. Perhaps this was also there with my CRT but I didn't notice it then. Have looked for display settings in XP and the ATI s/w that might control this but can not find anything. Any help? |
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"Thomas Gill" wrote in message
news:3ujAd.601963$nl.85057@pd7tw3no... Noozer wrote: "Thomas Gill" wrote in message news:He1Ad.600767$%k.385757@pd7tw2no... I am maybe in the wrong forum for this question but here it is: Have just purchased a new 17" LCD monitor and notice that all text is displayed with ghosting to the left of the letter. My video card is an ATI 9200. Perhaps this was also there with my CRT but I didn't notice it then. Have looked for display settings in XP and the ATI s/w that might control this but can not find anything. Cheap video cable. Is it analog or DVI? Do you have the resolution set to the NATIVE resolution of the LCD monitor? cable is analog though monitor is digital-capable. Not sure what NATIVE resloution is ... am running at max supported by both monitor and 9200 card: 1280 x 1024 Pity your ATI 9200 doesn't have a DVI output or you could try using that to connect the monitor. DVI connections normally improve such defects and also provide better/more stable screen positioning in my experience. Do you have a DVI connector equipped VGA card you could test it out with, or perhaps another PC with a DVI connector that you could temporarily hook the monitor up to for testing? Paul |
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On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 21:50:06 GMT, Thomas Gill
wrote: Pluvious wrote: On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 18:38:52 -0800, Heywood wrote: You may try enabling cleartype in XP....It is made for flatpanel LCD displays etc. From XP Help.... "Open Display in Control Panel. On the Appearance tab, click Effects. In the Effects dialog box, select the Use the following method to smooth edges of screen fonts check box. Click ClearType in the list. " Notes "To open Display, click Start, click Control Panel, and then double-click Display. ClearType is ideal for portable computer and other flat screen monitors. ClearType may appear slightly blurry on desktop computer monitors. Whether you select Standard or ClearType from the list, you must have a video card and monitor that support a color setting of at least 256 colors. Best results are achieved with High color (24-bit) or Highest color (32-bit) support. Click the Settings tab to set Color quality." After following these instuctions check out this M$ site to fine tune it. http://www.microsoft.com/typography/...ame=%20&fsize= Pluvious Thanks for the link ... ran it and improved the look of the type but ghosting persists. Bad news then.. sounds more serious then some software fix. Pluvious |
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"Thomas Gill" wrote in message news:He1Ad.600767$%k.385757@pd7tw2no... I am maybe in the wrong forum for this question but here it is: Have just purchased a new 17" LCD monitor and notice that all text is displayed with ghosting to the left of the letter. My video card is an ATI 9200. Perhaps this was also there with my CRT but I didn't notice it then. Have looked for display settings in XP and the ATI s/w that might control this but can not find anything. Any help? Sounds like the phasing setup on the LCD, if as you say none of the XP suggestions have fixed it. Try adjusting that, or resetting the LCD to defaults, or is there an auto adjust? H |
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Do you have a DVI connector equipped VGA card you could test it out with, or perhaps another PC with a DVI connector that you could temporarily hook the monitor up to for testing? Paul Nope ... no DVI video card to test. I suppose the ghosting is something I can live with. Overall the display quality is still better than my 19" CRT. thomas |
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Rich Elgin wrote:
Thomas How about your LCD monitor settings ? On your LCD monitor MENU if you have a Phase and or Clock adjustment try them. I have found that the Phase adjustment can crisp up the text quite a bit on LCD monitors. The Auto button does not always do the best job in adjusting the settings of a LCD monitor. Rich "Thomas Gill" wrote in message news:He1Ad.600767$%k.385757@pd7tw2no... I am maybe in the wrong forum for this question but here it is: Have just purchased a new 17" LCD monitor and notice that all text is displayed with ghosting to the left of the letter. My video card is an ATI 9200. Perhaps this was also there with my CRT but I didn't notice it then. Have looked for display settings in XP and the ATI s/w that might control this but can not find anything. Any help? Success! Adjusting the 'sharpness' control proved to be the solution ... ghosting eliminated. Thanks Rich for the suggestion to look at the LCD settings ... don't know why I didn't think to look there first. |
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Heckler ²°°³ wrote:
"Thomas Gill" wrote in message news:He1Ad.600767$%k.385757@pd7tw2no... I am maybe in the wrong forum for this question but here it is: Have just purchased a new 17" LCD monitor and notice that all text is displayed with ghosting to the left of the letter. My video card is an ATI 9200. Perhaps this was also there with my CRT but I didn't notice it then. Have looked for display settings in XP and the ATI s/w that might control this but can not find anything. Any help? Sounds like the phasing setup on the LCD, if as you say none of the XP suggestions have fixed it. Try adjusting that, or resetting the LCD to defaults, or is there an auto adjust? H Thanks for reply ... problem solved ... see previous. |
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Yep, sure sign the monitor is on its last legs, or there may be interference
because of a damaged video cable, or a cheap video cable. JK "Pluvious" wrote in message ... On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 21:50:06 GMT, Thomas Gill wrote: Pluvious wrote: On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 18:38:52 -0800, Heywood wrote: You may try enabling cleartype in XP....It is made for flatpanel LCD displays etc. From XP Help.... "Open Display in Control Panel. On the Appearance tab, click Effects. In the Effects dialog box, select the Use the following method to smooth edges of screen fonts check box. Click ClearType in the list. " Notes "To open Display, click Start, click Control Panel, and then double-click Display. ClearType is ideal for portable computer and other flat screen monitors. ClearType may appear slightly blurry on desktop computer monitors. Whether you select Standard or ClearType from the list, you must have a video card and monitor that support a color setting of at least 256 colors. Best results are achieved with High color (24-bit) or Highest color (32-bit) support. Click the Settings tab to set Color quality." After following these instuctions check out this M$ site to fine tune it. http://www.microsoft.com/typography/...ame=%20&fsize= Pluvious Thanks for the link ... ran it and improved the look of the type but ghosting persists. Bad news then.. sounds more serious then some software fix. Pluvious |
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Several things:
This is often a cable problem. It is very, very important to use a high quality cable. Almost all of the cables sold at retail to consumers are pure crap. You can almost tell the quality of a cable by how heavy (thick) it is. If it's close to a number 2 pencil, it's crap. You want something closer to a garden hose (well, it won't be quite that thick, but you get the idea). A truly good cable will usually cost $30 or so for a 6 to 10 foot cable. Also, try to avoid extension cables. If the factory cable is too short, it's better (IF there is a connector on the monitor) to replace the entire cable with a good quality longer one than to add an extender cable. The cables that come with the monitors are usually better than the cheap consumer cables but not always "top quality". What you are seeing is "ringing" and "reflections" from impeadance mis-matches. Basically, you are dealing with square waves in the 70MHz to 100Mhz range, and transmission line characteristics have become a serious factor. One thing that can help is reducing the refresh rate. If you cut the refresh rate from 70Hz to 60Hz, you are dropping the dot clock and all of the frequencies by about 15%. That will help. The other major thing is what I posted earlier, many analog interfaced LCD displays don't do well unless the frequency and phase of the dot clock in the display precisely matches that of the video card. You need a test patter to adjust this, ideally vertical bars, alternating black and white, each one single pixel wide. Mis-adjustment will show up as a highly visible "moire" distortion pattern. This isn't immediately recognizable to most people on a normal text or graphics screen. They get a sense that "something isn't right" but can't pinpoint what's wrong, because, going back to the moire distortion, the nature of the distortion is different all over the screen. In some cases, perfect adjustment cannot be acheived, and in others, it can only be acheived by tweaking both the monitor and the video card parameters. My experience with the "auto" adjustment is that very few of them, even in recent, name-brand monitors, will produce exactly the right adjustment, but it's a useful place to start. The good news is that most monitors remember the manual adjustment semi-permanently, even when the monitor is unplugged and disconnected. And they store these parameters "by mode" (e.g. they store separate settings for different resolutions). Each resolution, however, must be separately adjusted. Thomas Gill wrote: I am maybe in the wrong forum for this question but here it is: Have just purchased a new 17" LCD monitor and notice that all text is displayed with ghosting to the left of the letter. My video card is an ATI 9200. Perhaps this was also there with my CRT but I didn't notice it then. Have looked for display settings in XP and the ATI s/w that might control this but can not find anything. Any help? |
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