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EpsonSX205 not pulling paper through
BobH wrote:
On 24/03/17 19:02, BobH wrote: On 23/03/17 22:07, Tony wrote: BobH wrote: On 23/03/17 20:49, Tony wrote: BobH wrote: On 21/03/17 23:56, Tony wrote: BobH wrote: I realise this might be a long shot, but I've been given an Epson SX205 all in one printer. I am using it in Ubuntu and the printer is immediately recognised , so I put in a few sheets of plain paper into the paper feed tray, and select start on the printer. It then makes a noise and goes into the printing mode as the cartridges move from side to side inside the printer case. The problem is that although the first sheet of paper is pulled in for the printing to begin, it, the paper, doesn't go in any further and meanwhile the printing is going on to fresh air. After I did or pressed the relevant buttons to do a self test, the paper is now pulled on one side only and consequently causes a paper jam. As the printer is a top load feeeder, I can only see so much. Top loaders are prone to this. I have pulled out paper clips, ball point pens and hairclips. On one occasion I found a short ruler that the owner had accused his dog of hiding! It can be very hard to see these thing and sometimes removing the covers is necessary. You can carefully tip the printer backwards 45 degrres and give it a shake (watch out for ink!) but most likely what is causing the jam has been well and truly caught because of the pressure from the paper feed. The problem coule be further into the short transport but probably not. The only other possible cause is worn rollwers but this does not sound like that. Good luck. Tony Thanks , but as you say, it was quite hard to see what was happening. With a torch shining into to where the paper goes, as the printer started to make some noises, the paper was pushed inwards towards the feeder or roller, and about an inch or so of the paper went in to the roller?? Then it just stopped going any further, but the print carriage was going from right to left quickly as if it was actually printing, but no paper was showing on the inside where the carriage was. The carriage will do that because the printer has no reason to think there is no paper under the head. (That is the way most ink printers work, lasers are usually more thorough at paper detection). I am convinced it is an obstruction, and probably a small one. Are you able to get the cover off? Tony I had a go at trying to get it off, but after I took a couple of screws of at the back, I saw what looked like 2 plastic clips which the top part clips down to. I'll have another go tomorrow. Many printers use clips. Try this link to the service manual http://www.s-manuals.com/printer/epson_stylus_sx205 You may see what you need in chapter 4. Tony Well I have made a start on taking it apart using the pictures in the guide, and I have come up against a stop. On page 99, figure 4-8 of the pdf file, it shows the panel unit in place, but then on page 100, figure 4-11, it shows the panel unit clearly removed. Here it says: 4.3.5 Upper Housing/Card Slot Cover † Parts/Components need to be removed in advance Document Cover/ASF Cover/ Scanner Unit/Panel Unit But doesn't say or show how to remove it I have removed all the screws except the one under the panel unit, so I can't remove the upper housing. Have I missed something? I managed to get the upper housing up far enough to get my fingers in to where the paper feed is, and then used a stiff piece of paper to feed it in from the back and see how far it got. Now then, it gets as far as what look like 6 black plastic rollers about 25mm long , where they are held in place by 3 white plastic stubby fingers for want of a better description. I can't get any paper in underneath the said rollers from the opposite side, so that is where maybe the problem is. You said earlier that the paper is being pulled in on one side only. That is normal when there is an obstruction. In general this sort of printer only has one roller that grabs the paper and sets it into the paper path. I see from the manual that this printer only has one initial feed roller (a "D" shaped roller). So that means that an obstruction can skew the paper as it is presented to the paper path. It is always possible that there has been a mechanical failure but I seriously doubt it. Such a failure would not mormally cause paper skew and they are rare in any event. Perseverance is my suggestion. Tony |
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EpsonSX205 not pulling paper through
On 24/03/17 22:29, Tony wrote:
BobH wrote: On 24/03/17 19:02, BobH wrote: On 23/03/17 22:07, Tony wrote: BobH wrote: On 23/03/17 20:49, Tony wrote: BobH wrote: On 21/03/17 23:56, Tony wrote: BobH wrote: I realise this might be a long shot, but I've been given an Epson SX205 all in one printer. I am using it in Ubuntu and the printer is immediately recognised , so I put in a few sheets of plain paper into the paper feed tray, and select start on the printer. It then makes a noise and goes into the printing mode as the cartridges move from side to side inside the printer case. The problem is that although the first sheet of paper is pulled in for the printing to begin, it, the paper, doesn't go in any further and meanwhile the printing is going on to fresh air. After I did or pressed the relevant buttons to do a self test, the paper is now pulled on one side only and consequently causes a paper jam. As the printer is a top load feeeder, I can only see so much. Top loaders are prone to this. I have pulled out paper clips, ball point pens and hairclips. On one occasion I found a short ruler that the owner had accused his dog of hiding! It can be very hard to see these thing and sometimes removing the covers is necessary. You can carefully tip the printer backwards 45 degrres and give it a shake (watch out for ink!) but most likely what is causing the jam has been well and truly caught because of the pressure from the paper feed. The problem coule be further into the short transport but probably not. The only other possible cause is worn rollwers but this does not sound like that. Good luck. Tony Thanks , but as you say, it was quite hard to see what was happening. With a torch shining into to where the paper goes, as the printer started to make some noises, the paper was pushed inwards towards the feeder or roller, and about an inch or so of the paper went in to the roller?? Then it just stopped going any further, but the print carriage was going from right to left quickly as if it was actually printing, but no paper was showing on the inside where the carriage was. The carriage will do that because the printer has no reason to think there is no paper under the head. (That is the way most ink printers work, lasers are usually more thorough at paper detection). I am convinced it is an obstruction, and probably a small one. Are you able to get the cover off? Tony I had a go at trying to get it off, but after I took a couple of screws of at the back, I saw what looked like 2 plastic clips which the top part clips down to. I'll have another go tomorrow. Many printers use clips. Try this link to the service manual http://www.s-manuals.com/printer/epson_stylus_sx205 You may see what you need in chapter 4. Tony Well I have made a start on taking it apart using the pictures in the guide, and I have come up against a stop. On page 99, figure 4-8 of the pdf file, it shows the panel unit in place, but then on page 100, figure 4-11, it shows the panel unit clearly removed. Here it says: 4.3.5 Upper Housing/Card Slot Cover † Parts/Components need to be removed in advance Document Cover/ASF Cover/ Scanner Unit/Panel Unit But doesn't say or show how to remove it I have removed all the screws except the one under the panel unit, so I can't remove the upper housing. Have I missed something? I managed to get the upper housing up far enough to get my fingers in to where the paper feed is, and then used a stiff piece of paper to feed it in from the back and see how far it got. Now then, it gets as far as what look like 6 black plastic rollers about 25mm long , where they are held in place by 3 white plastic stubby fingers for want of a better description. I can't get any paper in underneath the said rollers from the opposite side, so that is where maybe the problem is. You said earlier that the paper is being pulled in on one side only. That is normal when there is an obstruction. In general this sort of printer only has one roller that grabs the paper and sets it into the paper path. I see from the manual that this printer only has one initial feed roller (a "D" shaped roller). So that means that an obstruction can skew the paper as it is presented to the paper path. It is always possible that there has been a mechanical failure but I seriously doubt it. Such a failure would not mormally cause paper skew and they are rare in any event. Perseverance is my suggestion. Tony Yes I did say it was being pulled in on one side only sometimes, and yet other times it was pulled in about an inch or so, all along the paper width. As I said, I can get the stiff paper to go in all the way along the width of the upper paper guide, and can be seen from the front of the printer. It at the upper paper guide where the paper won't go in any further. I have also tried pushing the stiff paper in underneath the upper paper guide, but it won't go in at all. So it now seems that it is something to do with the upper paper guide, and to be honest I am loathe to try and remove it for it to be ok or not blocked. |
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EpsonSX205 not pulling paper through
On 24/03/17 22:29, Tony wrote:
BobH wrote: On 24/03/17 19:02, BobH wrote: On 23/03/17 22:07, Tony wrote: BobH wrote: On 23/03/17 20:49, Tony wrote: BobH wrote: On 21/03/17 23:56, Tony wrote: BobH wrote: I realise this might be a long shot, but I've been given an Epson SX205 all in one printer. I am using it in Ubuntu and the printer is immediately recognised , so I put in a few sheets of plain paper into the paper feed tray, and select start on the printer. It then makes a noise and goes into the printing mode as the cartridges move from side to side inside the printer case. The problem is that although the first sheet of paper is pulled in for the printing to begin, it, the paper, doesn't go in any further and meanwhile the printing is going on to fresh air. After I did or pressed the relevant buttons to do a self test, the paper is now pulled on one side only and consequently causes a paper jam. As the printer is a top load feeeder, I can only see so much. Top loaders are prone to this. I have pulled out paper clips, ball point pens and hairclips. On one occasion I found a short ruler that the owner had accused his dog of hiding! It can be very hard to see these thing and sometimes removing the covers is necessary. You can carefully tip the printer backwards 45 degrres and give it a shake (watch out for ink!) but most likely what is causing the jam has been well and truly caught because of the pressure from the paper feed. The problem coule be further into the short transport but probably not. The only other possible cause is worn rollwers but this does not sound like that. Good luck. Tony Thanks , but as you say, it was quite hard to see what was happening. With a torch shining into to where the paper goes, as the printer started to make some noises, the paper was pushed inwards towards the feeder or roller, and about an inch or so of the paper went in to the roller?? Then it just stopped going any further, but the print carriage was going from right to left quickly as if it was actually printing, but no paper was showing on the inside where the carriage was. The carriage will do that because the printer has no reason to think there is no paper under the head. (That is the way most ink printers work, lasers are usually more thorough at paper detection). I am convinced it is an obstruction, and probably a small one. Are you able to get the cover off? Tony I had a go at trying to get it off, but after I took a couple of screws of at the back, I saw what looked like 2 plastic clips which the top part clips down to. I'll have another go tomorrow. Many printers use clips. Try this link to the service manual http://www.s-manuals.com/printer/epson_stylus_sx205 You may see what you need in chapter 4. Tony Well I have made a start on taking it apart using the pictures in the guide, and I have come up against a stop. On page 99, figure 4-8 of the pdf file, it shows the panel unit in place, but then on page 100, figure 4-11, it shows the panel unit clearly removed. Here it says: 4.3.5 Upper Housing/Card Slot Cover † Parts/Components need to be removed in advance Document Cover/ASF Cover/ Scanner Unit/Panel Unit But doesn't say or show how to remove it I have removed all the screws except the one under the panel unit, so I can't remove the upper housing. Have I missed something? I managed to get the upper housing up far enough to get my fingers in to where the paper feed is, and then used a stiff piece of paper to feed it in from the back and see how far it got. Now then, it gets as far as what look like 6 black plastic rollers about 25mm long , where they are held in place by 3 white plastic stubby fingers for want of a better description. I can't get any paper in underneath the said rollers from the opposite side, so that is where maybe the problem is. You said earlier that the paper is being pulled in on one side only. That is normal when there is an obstruction. In general this sort of printer only has one roller that grabs the paper and sets it into the paper path. I see from the manual that this printer only has one initial feed roller (a "D" shaped roller). So that means that an obstruction can skew the paper as it is presented to the paper path. It is always possible that there has been a mechanical failure but I seriously doubt it. Such a failure would not mormally cause paper skew and they are rare in any event. Perseverance is my suggestion. Tony I re assembled the sx205 printer after deciding I wasn't go an further of disassembling it any further. I then connected it up, and lo and behold it printed a nice test page with no pulling to one side or stopping. You could say I have fixed it! |
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EpsonSX205 not pulling paper through
BobH wrote:
On 24/03/17 22:29, Tony wrote: BobH wrote: On 24/03/17 19:02, BobH wrote: On 23/03/17 22:07, Tony wrote: BobH wrote: On 23/03/17 20:49, Tony wrote: BobH wrote: On 21/03/17 23:56, Tony wrote: BobH wrote: I realise this might be a long shot, but I've been given an Epson SX205 all in one printer. I am using it in Ubuntu and the printer is immediately recognised , so I put in a few sheets of plain paper into the paper feed tray, and select start on the printer. It then makes a noise and goes into the printing mode as the cartridges move from side to side inside the printer case. The problem is that although the first sheet of paper is pulled in for the printing to begin, it, the paper, doesn't go in any further and meanwhile the printing is going on to fresh air. After I did or pressed the relevant buttons to do a self test, the paper is now pulled on one side only and consequently causes a paper jam. As the printer is a top load feeeder, I can only see so much. Top loaders are prone to this. I have pulled out paper clips, ball point pens and hairclips. On one occasion I found a short ruler that the owner had accused his dog of hiding! It can be very hard to see these thing and sometimes removing the covers is necessary. You can carefully tip the printer backwards 45 degrres and give it a shake (watch out for ink!) but most likely what is causing the jam has been well and truly caught because of the pressure from the paper feed. The problem coule be further into the short transport but probably not. The only other possible cause is worn rollwers but this does not sound like that. Good luck. Tony Thanks , but as you say, it was quite hard to see what was happening. With a torch shining into to where the paper goes, as the printer started to make some noises, the paper was pushed inwards towards the feeder or roller, and about an inch or so of the paper went in to the roller?? Then it just stopped going any further, but the print carriage was going from right to left quickly as if it was actually printing, but no paper was showing on the inside where the carriage was. The carriage will do that because the printer has no reason to think there is no paper under the head. (That is the way most ink printers work, lasers are usually more thorough at paper detection). I am convinced it is an obstruction, and probably a small one. Are you able to get the cover off? Tony I had a go at trying to get it off, but after I took a couple of screws of at the back, I saw what looked like 2 plastic clips which the top part clips down to. I'll have another go tomorrow. Many printers use clips. Try this link to the service manual http://www.s-manuals.com/printer/epson_stylus_sx205 You may see what you need in chapter 4. Tony Well I have made a start on taking it apart using the pictures in the guide, and I have come up against a stop. On page 99, figure 4-8 of the pdf file, it shows the panel unit in place, but then on page 100, figure 4-11, it shows the panel unit clearly removed. Here it says: 4.3.5 Upper Housing/Card Slot Cover † Parts/Components need to be removed in advance Document Cover/ASF Cover/ Scanner Unit/Panel Unit But doesn't say or show how to remove it I have removed all the screws except the one under the panel unit, so I can't remove the upper housing. Have I missed something? I managed to get the upper housing up far enough to get my fingers in to where the paper feed is, and then used a stiff piece of paper to feed it in from the back and see how far it got. Now then, it gets as far as what look like 6 black plastic rollers about 25mm long , where they are held in place by 3 white plastic stubby fingers for want of a better description. I can't get any paper in underneath the said rollers from the opposite side, so that is where maybe the problem is. You said earlier that the paper is being pulled in on one side only. That is normal when there is an obstruction. In general this sort of printer only has one roller that grabs the paper and sets it into the paper path. I see from the manual that this printer only has one initial feed roller (a "D" shaped roller). So that means that an obstruction can skew the paper as it is presented to the paper path. It is always possible that there has been a mechanical failure but I seriously doubt it. Such a failure would not mormally cause paper skew and they are rare in any event. Perseverance is my suggestion. Tony I re assembled the sx205 printer after deciding I wasn't go an further of disassembling it any further. I then connected it up, and lo and behold it printed a nice test page with no pulling to one side or stopping. You could say I have fixed it! Indeed you have. There is a strong possibility that you dislodged something, it could have been as small as a tiny piece of torn paper, a hair or similar. The important thing is that it now works. Well done! Tony |
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