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AMD kills off ATI brandname, finally
On 09/15/10 18:36, zzzzzzzzzz wrote:
On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 08:32:00 -0600, Joe wrote: z writes: On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 16:03:41 -0400, Yousuf wrote: snip You mean like GM with all of its brand names that have had to be hatcheted down? Goodbye Oldsmobile, so long Pontiac, never knew ya Saturn, and good riddance Hummer. Or Chrysler and its Plymouth brand, and Ford and its Mercury brand. What happened to Mercury? It was there this morning. http://www.mercuryvehicles.com/ For has announced that Mercury is being discontinued; I don't remember the timetable. Like Plymouth, it's been pretty much on life support for years and they're now turning off the machine. Actually, as I look around, Ford appears to have abandoned the high-end American luxury market to Cadillac and moved Lincoln down into the former Mercury territory, so Mercury becomes pretty much redundant. Ah, I hadn't heard that. Thanks. A friend has an LM dealership. I bet he's not happy. If he still has a dealership, he might be ecstatic. |
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AMD kills off ATI brandname, finally
On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 17:49:27 -0400, Tony Harding wrote:
On 09/15/10 18:36, zzzzzzzzzz wrote: On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 08:32:00 -0600, Joe wrote: z writes: On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 16:03:41 -0400, Yousuf wrote: snip You mean like GM with all of its brand names that have had to be hatcheted down? Goodbye Oldsmobile, so long Pontiac, never knew ya Saturn, and good riddance Hummer. Or Chrysler and its Plymouth brand, and Ford and its Mercury brand. What happened to Mercury? It was there this morning. http://www.mercuryvehicles.com/ For has announced that Mercury is being discontinued; I don't remember the timetable. Like Plymouth, it's been pretty much on life support for years and they're now turning off the machine. Actually, as I look around, Ford appears to have abandoned the high-end American luxury market to Cadillac and moved Lincoln down into the former Mercury territory, so Mercury becomes pretty much redundant. Ah, I hadn't heard that. Thanks. A friend has an LM dealership. I bet he's not happy. If he still has a dealership, he might be ecstatic. How so? It's going to be rough existing on only Lincolns. The market is quite small and ageing fast. |
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AMD kills off ATI brandname, finally
On 09/16/10 23:41, zzzzzzzzzz wrote:
On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 17:49:27 -0400, Tony wrote: On 09/15/10 18:36, zzzzzzzzzz wrote: On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 08:32:00 -0600, Joe wrote: z writes: On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 16:03:41 -0400, Yousuf wrote: snip You mean like GM with all of its brand names that have had to be hatcheted down? Goodbye Oldsmobile, so long Pontiac, never knew ya Saturn, and good riddance Hummer. Or Chrysler and its Plymouth brand, and Ford and its Mercury brand. What happened to Mercury? It was there this morning. http://www.mercuryvehicles.com/ For has announced that Mercury is being discontinued; I don't remember the timetable. Like Plymouth, it's been pretty much on life support for years and they're now turning off the machine. Actually, as I look around, Ford appears to have abandoned the high-end American luxury market to Cadillac and moved Lincoln down into the former Mercury territory, so Mercury becomes pretty much redundant. Ah, I hadn't heard that. Thanks. A friend has an LM dealership. I bet he's not happy. If he still has a dealership, he might be ecstatic. How so? It's going to be rough existing on only Lincolns. The market is quite small and ageing fast. Still has a business (job), unlike all the people who lost their dealerships. Other posters have commented that Lincoln seems to be migrating downward in their MSRPs, which could expand their potential sales into former Mercury owners, who would see a Lincoln nameplate on their car as a step up in quality & status. |
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AMD kills off ATI brandname, finally
On Sat, 18 Sep 2010 10:58:07 -0400, Tony Harding wrote:
On 09/16/10 23:41, zzzzzzzzzz wrote: On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 17:49:27 -0400, Tony wrote: On 09/15/10 18:36, zzzzzzzzzz wrote: On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 08:32:00 -0600, Joe wrote: z writes: On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 16:03:41 -0400, Yousuf wrote: snip You mean like GM with all of its brand names that have had to be hatcheted down? Goodbye Oldsmobile, so long Pontiac, never knew ya Saturn, and good riddance Hummer. Or Chrysler and its Plymouth brand, and Ford and its Mercury brand. What happened to Mercury? It was there this morning. http://www.mercuryvehicles.com/ For has announced that Mercury is being discontinued; I don't remember the timetable. Like Plymouth, it's been pretty much on life support for years and they're now turning off the machine. Actually, as I look around, Ford appears to have abandoned the high-end American luxury market to Cadillac and moved Lincoln down into the former Mercury territory, so Mercury becomes pretty much redundant. Ah, I hadn't heard that. Thanks. A friend has an LM dealership. I bet he's not happy. If he still has a dealership, he might be ecstatic. How so? It's going to be rough existing on only Lincolns. The market is quite small and ageing fast. Still has a business (job), unlike all the people who lost their dealerships. IF it's still a business without 80% of it. Yes, if I owned a GM dealership that was stolen out from under me by PotUS, as one close to here was, I'd be some ****ed. Other posters have commented that Lincoln seems to be migrating downward in their MSRPs, which could expand their potential sales into former Mercury owners, who would see a Lincoln nameplate on their car as a step up in quality & status. Maybe, but Mercury was really just another Ford. That was a good thing. I don't remember a Lincoln that I ever wanted to buy. Still don't. |
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AMD kills off ATI brandname, finally
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On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 17:49:27 -0400, Tony Harding wrote: On 09/15/10 18:36, zzzzzzzzzz wrote: On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 08:32:00 -0600, Joe wrote: z writes: On Mon, 30 Aug 2010 16:03:41 -0400, Yousuf wrote: snip You mean like GM with all of its brand names that have had to be hatcheted down? Goodbye Oldsmobile, so long Pontiac, never knew ya Saturn, and good riddance Hummer. Or Chrysler and its Plymouth brand, and Ford and its Mercury brand. What happened to Mercury? It was there this morning. http://www.mercuryvehicles.com/ For has announced that Mercury is being discontinued; I don't remember the timetable. Like Plymouth, it's been pretty much on life support for years and they're now turning off the machine. Actually, as I look around, Ford appears to have abandoned the high-end American luxury market to Cadillac and moved Lincoln down into the former Mercury territory, so Mercury becomes pretty much redundant. Ah, I hadn't heard that. Thanks. A friend has an LM dealership. I bet he's not happy. If he still has a dealership, he might be ecstatic. How so? It's going to be rough existing on only Lincolns. The market is quite small and ageing fast. Depends on whether my conjecture regarding retargeting Lincoln is accurate, and how successful it is. I've certainly seen a lot more Lincoln badges over the last few years than I've seen in decades, and they been on cars I would have expected to have been labelled as Mercurys. The MKZ, for instance, is exactly the sort of thing that used to be a Mercury: a Ford Fusion with slight sheetmetal changes (in fairness, it's also sold as a Mercury Milan). -- As we enjoy great advantages from the inventions of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and this we should do freely and generously. (Benjamin Franklin) |
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AMD kills off ATI brandname, finally
On 10-09-14 06:28 PM, GMAN wrote:
You can thank that ****er obama buying up GM for losing those brand names. If anything, he saved GM from total collapse. However, I doubt that he had anything to do with getting them to get rid of redundant brands. GM's internal management probably came up with that themselves, as they had to get rid of excess dealers. They already had experience in getting rid of brands from the Oldsmobile days. Yousuf Khan |
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AMD kills off ATI brandname, finally
On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 15:04:00 -0400, Yousuf Khan
wrote: On 10-09-16 11:41 PM, zzzzzzzzzz wrote: How so? It's going to be rough existing on only Lincolns. The market is quite small and ageing fast. Ford will most likely replace the Mercuries with Fords. Huh? Almost all Mercurys *were* Fords with deferent trim (sometimes not even that). LM dealers cannot sell Ford models. |
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AMD kills off ATI brandname, finally
On 19/09/2010 6:33 PM, zzzzzzzzzz wrote:
On Sun, 19 Sep 2010 15:04:00 -0400, Yousuf wrote: On 10-09-16 11:41 PM, zzzzzzzzzz wrote: How so? It's going to be rough existing on only Lincolns. The market is quite small and ageing fast. Ford will most likely replace the Mercuries with Fords. Huh? Almost all Mercurys *were* Fords with deferent trim (sometimes not even that). LM dealers cannot sell Ford models. That's what I'm saying. If Mercury disappears as a brand, then Ford the corporation will likely give the former Mercury brand dealers, Ford brands to sell instead. Yousuf Khan |
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