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intel to kill pata
Sata really going to be a standard?
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"bgd" wrote in message news:klvKf.7462$lR2.4163@trndny01... Sata really going to be a standard? Since PATA has no advantages over SATA and SATA has many advantages over PATA, there seems to be no reason to want PATA to stay around. The only reason people still make PATA devices is because there are people who don't have SATA on their machines. The only reason people still put PATA ports on machines is because there are still people who have PATA devices. It's already legacy all around. DS |
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I'm not sure if you can answer my next q....
I have sata ability now, and chose not to. I read and am (uncertain of facts) that sata doesnt get it's advantage unless it is being run on a pci-express chipset. Is it true? If not, an accurate reliable answer is gonna send me to get some Sata drives. ;o) "David Schwartz" wrote in message ... "bgd" wrote in message news:klvKf.7462$lR2.4163@trndny01... Sata really going to be a standard? Since PATA has no advantages over SATA and SATA has many advantages over PATA, there seems to be no reason to want PATA to stay around. The only reason people still make PATA devices is because there are people who don't have SATA on their machines. The only reason people still put PATA ports on machines is because there are still people who have PATA devices. It's already legacy all around. DS |
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"bgd" wrote in message news:yoEKf.8294$PL2.4846@trndny03... I'm not sure if you can answer my next q.... I have sata ability now, and chose not to. I read and am (uncertain of facts) that sata doesnt get it's advantage unless it is being run on a pci-express chipset. Is it true? If not, an accurate reliable answer is gonna send me to get some Sata drives. ;o) It is true and it isn't. It depends what advantage you're talking about. AFAIC, the primary advantages of SATA right now are that the cable is thinner, neater, and cleaner, and there's no issues with master/slave configuration, detection, or slowdowns. You get those no matter what. If you want SATA because it's faster or because it will make possible hub/switch type configurations similar to USB, then you will not get those advantages from every current SATA implementation. All things being anywhere close to equal, you should prefer SATA now because it's more future proof. I would not buy a new PATA device unless I was going to install it on a machine that didn't have SATA ports and that I didn't expect to be upgrading in the future. (Otherwise, I'd add SATA now.) DS |
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"Peter Bjørn Perlsø" wrote in message . .. bgd wrote: I'm not sure if you can answer my next q.... I have sata ability now, and chose not to. I read and am (uncertain of facts) that sata doesnt get it's advantage unless it is being run on a pci-express chipset. Is it true? If not, an accurate reliable answer is gonna send me to get some Sata drives. ;o) A switch from PATA to SATA usually yields no performance advantages, because hard disks are limited by their mechanism, not by the data interface. If you want to switch, do it because the cables are easier to install and mess with. But if you already have a working PATA setup you're happy with, I see no reason to upgrade to SATA. Not to mention getting rid of all that master/slave indentured servant crap. Oh yeah, and the RAID is simple and easy to use. |
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Yup, Intel's ICH8 removes PATA, just 6 SATA channels.
The problem is almost nobody has SATA CD/DVD drives. The ICH5 had 4 PATA + 2 SATA, but no PCI-e. The 266MB/s hub link is a bottleneck when fully loaded. "bgd" wrote in message news:yoEKf.8294$PL2.4846@trndny03... I'm not sure if you can answer my next q.... I have sata ability now, and chose not to. I read and am (uncertain of facts) that sata doesnt get it's advantage unless it is being run on a pci-express chipset. Is it true? If not, an accurate reliable answer is gonna send me to get some Sata drives. ;o) |
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Eric Gisin wrote:
Yup, Intel's ICH8 removes PATA, just 6 SATA channels. The problem is almost nobody has SATA CD/DVD drives. Based on limited experience and reports, the situation for CD is bad, the situation for CD-R and DVD-R includes fewer choices, higher prices, and firmware definitely in the beta stage. There was a note from someone trying to run Nero, I don't remember where I saw it. The ICH5 had 4 PATA + 2 SATA, but no PCI-e. The 266MB/s hub link is a bottleneck when fully loaded. "bgd" wrote in message news:yoEKf.8294$PL2.4846@trndny03... I'm not sure if you can answer my next q.... I have sata ability now, and chose not to. I read and am (uncertain of facts) that sata doesnt get it's advantage unless it is being run on a pci-express chipset. Is it true? If not, an accurate reliable answer is gonna send me to get some Sata drives. ;o) -- bill davidsen SBC/Prodigy Yorktown Heights NY data center http://newsgroups.news.prodigy.com |
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Peter Bjørn Perlsø wrote in message
... Eric Gisin wrote: The problem is almost nobody has SATA CD/DVD drives. Didn't even know they existed? Never seen one, at least. Try Plextor. later.... |
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Peter Bjørn Perlsø wrote:
Eric Gisin wrote: The problem is almost nobody has SATA CD/DVD drives. Didn't even know they existed? Never seen one, at least. They exist, but are expensive and not commonly available. I see not real benefit for SATA on CD/DVD, if you really need a lot of them you will probably go SCSI. -- bill davidsen SBC/Prodigy Yorktown Heights NY data center http://newsgroups.news.prodigy.com |
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Eric Gisin wrote:
Yup, Intel's ICH8 removes PATA, just 6 SATA channels. The problem is almost nobody has SATA CD/DVD drives. $15 or so gets you a SATA to PATA bridge; they run quite nicely. -- Nate Edel http://www.cubiclehermit.com/ "What's the use of yearning for Elysian Fields when you know you can't get 'em, and would only let 'em out on building leases if you had 'em?" (WSG) |
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