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BIOS recovery : D845GVSR mobo
Cross posted to comp.sys.intel, 24hoursupport.helpdesk
Hi I have an Intel D845GVSR motherboard which I use mainly for old DOS work (the more recent mobo does not work as expected :-( ) Ok, this board was having problems with the mouse and I wanted to upgrade the bios, from the original version 3 to the latest version 20 at Intel site. The upgrading went ok and everything worked well but no USB under Win XP SP3! (I need it to copy stuff from one machine to another). I thought of going back and tried the bios version 5 (which said the mouse problem has been corrected). The Intel bios burning program asked me to confirm I really wanted to flash an older version and when I hit ok the bios was flashed. Now the computer does not boot. When I set the jumper to the maintenance setting the bios settings screen comes up and it shows the bios version as 5. But any change in the settings are not saved. According to Intel, in the recovery mode the system is supposed to read the *.bio file in a floppy or CD will be written to the bios. I have tried *.bio files from nay versions both in CD and floppy but have failed. If any of you know a method to flash the bios please let me know. The mobo is not dead as the bios settings do display in the maintenance mode. Thanks in advance for any help -- CluLess |
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BIOS recovery : D845GVSR mobo
On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 19:32:32 +0530, ClueLess wrote:
According to Intel, in the recovery mode the system is supposed to read the *.bio file in a floppy or CD will be written to the bios. I have tried *.bio files from nay versions both in CD and floppy but have failed. If any of you know a method to flash the bios please let me know. The mobo is not dead as the bios settings do display in the maintenance mode. That is the only way to flash the bios. Give me a description of the process, any errors you might get. -- Live Fast, Die Young and Leave a Pretty Corpse |
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BIOS recovery : D845GVSR mobo
ClueLess wrote:
Intel D845GVSR motherboard Ok, this board was having problems with the mouse and I wanted to upgrade the bios, from the original version 3 to the latest version 20 at Intel site. The upgrading went ok and everything worked well but no USB under Win XP SP3! (I need it to copy stuff from one machine to another). Was USB support working before? If USB support was not there before with the old v3 BIOS, perhaps the chipset drivers weren't installed into Windows XP to afford that support. Did you follow with an install of the Intel chipset drivers? I thought of going back and tried the bios version 5 (which said the mouse problem has been corrected). The Intel bios burning program asked me to confirm I really wanted to flash an older version and when I hit ok the bios was flashed. When you did the first BIOS flash update, did the writer program not first offer to save a backup of the existing BIOS code to a .bio file? I don't recall ever doing a BIOS update where either the program did not ask me to backup the existing code or the instructions told me how to do it using that same writer program. Do you have the old v3 .bio file to flash into your BIOS so you are back to square one? Now the computer does not boot. When I set the jumper to the maintenance setting the bios settings screen comes up and it shows the bios version as 5. But any change in the settings are not saved. What does "not boot" mean? That you don't even get to the POST screen? Or that the hardware boot actually completes and it is the load of Windows XP that halts, errors, or something else yet to be described? According to Intel, in the recovery mode the system is supposed to read the *.bio file in a floppy or CD will be written to the bios. I have tried *.bio files from nay versions both in CD and floppy but have failed. What does "failed" mean? That your host won't boot using a bootable floppy or CD? Or that the .bio file gets rejected as incompatible with your hardware? The writer program can't find the storage media on which the .bio file exists? If any of you know a method to flash the bios please let me know. The mobo is not dead as the bios settings do display in the maintenance mode. After flashing the BIOS, did you short the "CMOS clear" 2-pin header on the motherboard? The settings saved in the CMOS may not match those now in the EEPROM for the BIOS. They may not even align to the same byte positions in the BIOS table to those that are saved in CMOS for the old table. If you have customized the BIOS (in the CMOS copy), write down all the settings that were modified from their defaults. After doing the flash update to the BIOS, clear the old CMOS copy by shorting the 2-pin jumper for clearing the CMOS. Then do a *cold* reboot. If the "failed" problem is that the writer halted or errored during writing the new/replacement code into the EEPROM for the BIOS then it sounds like the prior flash was incomplete or corrupted. This can even result in not being able to boot using floppy, CD, USB drive, or other storage media to do another flash attempt. The only recourse at that point is to buy replacement EEPROMs for your motherboard (which requires extremely good soldering skills and the requisite soldering tools since I saw no socketed chips in the mobo pic at http://tinyurl.com/2b335nu). You might also try calling Intel support to find out how much it would cost to have them replace the EEPROM chips for BIOS (and put in the latest *applicable* version for that mobo). From their web site, it looks like support has been discontinued for this legacy product so you'll probably have to pay them to do the repair. |
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BIOS recovery : D845GVSR mobo
On 11/15/2010 08:02 AM, ClueLess wrote:
Cross posted to comp.sys.intel, 24hoursupport.helpdesk Hi I have an Intel D845GVSR motherboard which I use mainly for old DOS work (the more recent mobo does not work as expected :-( ) Ok, this board was having problems with the mouse and I wanted to upgrade the bios, from the original version 3 to the latest version 20 at Intel site. The upgrading went ok and everything worked well but no USB under Win XP SP3! (I need it to copy stuff from one machine to another). I thought of going back and tried the bios version 5 (which said the mouse problem has been corrected). The Intel bios burning program asked me to confirm I really wanted to flash an older version and when I hit ok the bios was flashed. Now the computer does not boot. When I set the jumper to the maintenance setting the bios settings screen comes up and it shows the bios version as 5. But any change in the settings are not saved. According to Intel, in the recovery mode the system is supposed to read the *.bio file in a floppy or CD will be written to the bios. I have tried *.bio files from nay versions both in CD and floppy but have failed. If any of you know a method to flash the bios please let me know. The mobo is not dead as the bios settings do display in the maintenance mode. Thanks in advance for any help Re-flash it with a newer bios then look at the settings...legacy USB support is often turned off by default and you need to turn it on |
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BIOS recovery : D845GVSR mobo
On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 11:51:28 -0600, VanguardLH wrote:
Intel D845GVSR motherboard Basically I have downloaded every thing that is available for this mobo from Intel site and have carefully gone through the instructions before attempting flsh. Was USB support working before? If USB support was not there before with the old v3 BIOS, perhaps the chipset drivers weren't installed into Windows XP to afford that support. Did you follow with an install of the Intel chipset drivers? USB worked before and all the drivers including USB 2.0 from Intel were loaded. When you did the first BIOS flash update, did the writer program not first offer to save a backup of the existing BIOS code to a .bio file? I don't recall ever doing a BIOS update where either the program did not ask me to backup the existing code or the instructions told me how to do it using that same writer program. Do you have the old v3 .bio file to flash into your BIOS so you are back to square one? When I flashed first the P20 (latest at Intel site for this mobo) I used the Win utility and it just updated the bios. Nothing about saving the old bios. Everything was ok except there was no USB. Device Manager did not show the USB and in BIOS setting all USB settings were grayed! What does "not boot" mean? That you don't even get to the POST screen? Or that the hardware boot actually completes and it is the load of Windows XP that halts, errors, or something else yet to be described? This is after I tried to flash P5 version of bios (mouse error corrected per Intel in this version) this was also done under Windows using the utility provided by Intel. A question "Do you really wanted to flash an older version of bios" did come up and I clicked yes. After this the computer does not boot. Just a blank screen - no video output at all (monitor LED is just blinking showing no video input) and no beep at all. What does "failed" mean? That your host won't boot using a bootable floppy or CD? Or that the .bio file gets rejected as incompatible with your hardware? The writer program can't find the storage media on which the .bio file exists? It just does not boot. When I put the jumpers in the maintenance mode bios setting comes up with the additional maintenance page (enables passwords to be cleared) and the general page indicated the bios version as 5. That means bios was flashed with some errors, I believe. After flashing the BIOS, did you short the "CMOS clear" 2-pin header on the motherboard? The settings saved in the CMOS may not match those now in the EEPROM for the BIOS. They may not even align to the same byte positions in the BIOS table to those that are saved in CMOS for the old table. If you have customized the BIOS (in the CMOS copy), write down all the settings that were modified from their defaults. After doing the flash update to the BIOS, clear the old CMOS copy by shorting the 2-pin jumper for clearing the CMOS. Then do a *cold* reboot. If the "failed" problem is that the writer halted or errored during writing the new/replacement code into the EEPROM for the BIOS then it sounds like the prior flash was incomplete or corrupted. This can even result in not being able to boot using floppy, CD, USB drive, or other storage media to do another flash attempt. The only recourse at that point is to buy replacement EEPROMs for your motherboard (which requires extremely good soldering skills and the requisite soldering tools since I saw no socketed chips in the mobo pic at http://tinyurl.com/2b335nu). You might also try calling Intel support to find out how much it would cost to have them replace the EEPROM chips for BIOS (and put in the latest *applicable* version for that mobo). From their web site, it looks like support has been discontinued for this legacy product so you'll probably have to pay them to do the repair. When cmos jumpers are left open it is supposed to automatically read the *.bio files from either floppy or CD and do a silent flash (no display of any notice). I have tried both the floppy and CD way. I have tried putting only the *.bio file and then tried with all the following files in the floppy and CD and still no way. In these cases the floppy light stays on and I have kept for nearly 30 minutes; I have also tried various later bios including P20. P08-0023.BI1 P08-0023.BI2 P08-0023.BI3 P08-0023.BI4 P08-0023.BI5 P08-0023.BI6 P08-0023.BIO P08-0023.SIG I have some stuff like programmer for 8051 under DOS and the later faster motherboards with me (eg. ASUS P5KPL-AM/PS) do not recognize the equipment. But for this I would have chucked the 845 board. I hope that I will get some lead on this problem Thanks to the other also who have pitched in to help me. -- ClueLess |
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BIOS recovery : D845GVSR mobo
In message , ClueLess pondered the
following: After this the computer does not boot. Just a blank screen - no video output at all (monitor LED is just blinking showing no video input) and no beep at all. you done ****ed up the chip and/or have corrupted data residing on it. try what these guys offer since yer at the end of your rope and insist on keeping that mobo: http://www.biosman.com/bios-flash.html HTH -- http://www.republicorp.us/ http://stopbeck.com|www.snuhwolf.9f.com|www.eyeonpalin.or g|www.youropenbook.org |
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BIOS recovery : D845GVSR mobo
ClueLess wrote:
After flashing the BIOS, did you short the "CMOS clear" 2-pin header on the motherboard? The settings saved in the CMOS may not match those now in the EEPROM for the BIOS. They may not even align to the same byte positions in the BIOS table to those that are saved in CMOS for the old table. ... After doing the flash update to the BIOS, clear the old CMOS copy by shorting the 2-pin jumper for clearing the CMOS. Then do a *cold* reboot. When cmos jumpers are left open it is supposed to automatically read the *.bio files from either floppy or CD and do a silent flash (no display of any notice). The 2-pin "CMOS clear" motherboard header of which I speak is always left open (no shorting jumper) until you decide to wipe the CMOS copy of the table holding the BIOS settings (that were copied from the EEPROM and then modified in the CMOS copy of the table). When you short the 2 pins, it is only momentary, like perhaps a few seconds. Then you remove the jumper. The CMOS clear header isn't just to wipe passwords. It wipes the CMOS table. That forces a reload of the BIOS settings from EEPROM into CMOS. Well, that's how it works in most mobos. The manual for your mobo is at http://downloadmirror.intel.com/1521...de_English.pdf. Page 37 shows the "BIOS configuration" jumper. None of the positions it shows describes a *clearing* of the CMOS copy of the BIOS. My guess is that you need to use the Maintenance setting and somewhere in its screens is an option to revert to defaults or to reload the BIOS from the EEPROM. That it says "Use this menu to clear passwords" may be just one function of the maintenance menu mode. When you go into maintenance menu mode, is there any other options other than just clearing passwords? On page 49 is described several BIOS config screens. If the maintenance mode gives you the config screens shown starting on page 47, did you check if USB was enabled as per the settings shown on page 63? I couldn't find a reset or reload function in their BIOS screens. The closest was "Load Optimal Defaults". Maybe that reads the EEPROM to load the defaults into the CMOS table. Personally I would've preferred a 2-pin CMOS Clear jumper on the mobo to get back to scratch but it doesn't look like Intel gives you that for this mobo. |
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