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running a 2800+ barton with a 400 MHz FSB
"Ed" wrote in message news On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:59:17 +0100 (CET), futureworlds wrote: I'd like to run it with 200x10.5 = 2100. I'm not looking for an extreme OC or anything; just wanna get the FSB up to 400. Can this be done, or is the multi locked @ 12.5? How can I tell if my 2800+ is locked, and if it's locked, how can I unlock it (got a url w/ pics or something)? Thanks all! Week 39 2003 and later are said to all be multiplier locked. Example of a chip code... AXDA2700DUT3C 9834509256125 AIUCB 0312VPHM ®© 1999 AMD The 0312 tells you the year and week it would have been manufactured, Year 2003 Week 12. If you don't know the codes then just change the multiplier in the bios, lower or higher one step and reboot, if it still boots at the same MHz then it's multiplier locked, simple as that, and AFAIK there is no unlock for the NEW locked chips, all you can do is raise the bus speed as far as the board can run stable. Ed Or just as likely, if it won't boot at all, then its locked. Certainly if you try this on my MB, you just get a dead system. (But you can revive it - thank god - by powering off and waiting a while and then holding down the INSERT key whilst powering up, so as to restore some safe defaults.) Chip. |
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"Chip" wrote in message
... "Ed" wrote in message news On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:59:17 +0100 (CET), futureworlds wrote: I'd like to run it with 200x10.5 = 2100. I'm not looking for an extreme OC or anything; just wanna get the FSB up to 400. Can this be done, or is the multi locked @ 12.5? How can I tell if my 2800+ is locked, and if it's locked, how can I unlock it (got a url w/ pics or something)? Thanks all! Week 39 2003 and later are said to all be multiplier locked. Example of a chip code... AXDA2700DUT3C 9834509256125 AIUCB 0312VPHM ®© 1999 AMD The 0312 tells you the year and week it would have been manufactured, Year 2003 Week 12. If you don't know the codes then just change the multiplier in the bios, lower or higher one step and reboot, if it still boots at the same MHz then it's multiplier locked, simple as that, and AFAIK there is no unlock for the NEW locked chips, all you can do is raise the bus speed as far as the board can run stable. Ed Or just as likely, if it won't boot at all, then its locked. Certainly if you try this on my MB, you just get a dead system. (But you can revive it - thank god - by powering off and waiting a while and then holding down the INSERT key whilst powering up, so as to restore some safe defaults.) Chip. Sorry, this is nonsense. I just tried it again and it booted up just fine as Ed said it would. But the multiplier hasn't changed. So I know my CPU is locked. Chip. |
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"Ed" wrote in message ... On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 09:35:30 -0000, "Chip" wrote: "Chip" wrote in message ... "Ed" wrote in message news On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 21:59:17 +0100 (CET), futureworlds wrote: I'd like to run it with 200x10.5 = 2100. I'm not looking for an extreme OC or anything; just wanna get the FSB up to 400. Can this be done, or is the multi locked @ 12.5? How can I tell if my 2800+ is locked, and if it's locked, how can I unlock it (got a url w/ pics or something)? Thanks all! Week 39 2003 and later are said to all be multiplier locked. Example of a chip code... AXDA2700DUT3C 9834509256125 AIUCB 0312VPHM ®© 1999 AMD The 0312 tells you the year and week it would have been manufactured, Year 2003 Week 12. If you don't know the codes then just change the multiplier in the bios, lower or higher one step and reboot, if it still boots at the same MHz then it's multiplier locked, simple as that, and AFAIK there is no unlock for the NEW locked chips, all you can do is raise the bus speed as far as the board can run stable. Ed Or just as likely, if it won't boot at all, then its locked. Certainly if you try this on my MB, you just get a dead system. (But you can revive it - thank god - by powering off and waiting a while and then holding down the INSERT key whilst powering up, so as to restore some safe defaults.) Chip. Sorry, this is nonsense. I just tried it again and it booted up just fine as Ed said it would. But the multiplier hasn't changed. So I know my CPU is locked. Chip. IOW if AMD has seen any noticeable decrease in sales (not counting Xmas sales)? The Barton 2500+ had to be seeling like hot cakes, seemed like everybody was buying them. The unlocked CPU was the thing that pushed me over the edge back in May, I just couldn't resist. I was running a locked Palomino 2000+ at the time as my main PC and was never brave enough to butcher the bridges to unlock it, the Barton was just too easy, Plug n Play! Who knows, maybe some smart kid will figure out a way around the locked chips yet? It wouldn't surprise me if someone did. Cheers, Ed Yes its a shame they ****ed on our camp fire. Before my Barton 3200+, I had a $79 XP2100+ tbred that (ironically) I suspect was a faster CPU. I used to run the old tbred at around 2400 ~ 2450 MHz with a 228MHz FSB. The new Barton (at least I got it cheap) will do around the same speed (2420 MHz), but of course since its locked I can't get the FSB higher than 220. So I gain a bit on the cache and lose on the FSB. I was hoping the Barton would go a bit higher, since I bought a genuine 3200+. Had I known how it performs, and that it was locked, I wouldn't have bothered. I can't really see how this makes sense for AMD. Anyone who *know* about multipliers and FSB's just isn't going to buy a new locked CPU, if they have an old unlocked one that will do the same speed anyway. And anyone who doesn't know about multiplier and fsb's etc wouldn't know whether the CPU they bought was locked or not!!! So to them its irrelevant. The only thing AMD are doing is stopping people with (say) 1700's from changing to 2500 Bartons. A small dent in sales for AMD. And a big dent in customer relations. Bad move. Chip. |
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"futureworlds" wrote in message orlds.it... I'd like to run it with 200x10.5 = 2100. I'm not looking for an extreme OC or anything; just wanna get the FSB up to 400. Can this be done, or is the multi locked @ 12.5? How can I tell if my 2800+ is locked, and if it's locked, how can I unlock it (got a url w/ pics or something)? Thanks all! What is the advantage of running a different multi? I have my 2800+ (AXDA2800DKV4D - AQXDA0316) set at 168MHz x 12.5 running at 2103MHz - I got the FSB up to 175 but get a little unstable. Should I be trying to tweak the multi in the bios? Should I put the figure up or down? Si. |
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i can get my 2800 up to 2.3ghz (200x11.5) at stock voltage and stock amd hsf
got an a7n8x dlx Brendan C. "Ed" wrote in message ... On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 02:25:38 -0000, "Simon" wrote: "futureworlds" wrote in message worlds.it... I'd like to run it with 200x10.5 = 2100. I'm not looking for an extreme OC or anything; just wanna get the FSB up to 400. Can this be done, or is the multi locked @ 12.5? How can I tell if my 2800+ is locked, and if it's locked, how can I unlock it (got a url w/ pics or something)? Thanks all! What is the advantage of running a different multi? I have my 2800+ (AXDA2800DKV4D - AQXDA0316) set at 168MHz x 12.5 running at 2103MHz - I got the FSB up to 175 but get a little unstable. Should I be trying to tweak the multi in the bios? Should I put the figure up or down? Si. FSB x Mult = CPU MHz. So if you want to run the FSB @ 200 I think you'll need to lower the mult. You should be able to run a Barton 2800+ @ 200 x 10.5 at default vcore as that would only be around a 17MHz overclock on the CPU. Ed |
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"Brendan" wrote
i can get my 2800 up to 2.3ghz (200x11.5) at stock voltage and stock amd hsf got an a7n8x dlx Hi, is that 24hour Prime95 stable? -- Wayne ][ |
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hehe, duno yet. havent got prime95. It runs the games i play without a
hitch, so its good enough for me atm. Brendan C. "Wayne Youngman" wrote in message ... "Brendan" wrote i can get my 2800 up to 2.3ghz (200x11.5) at stock voltage and stock amd hsf got an a7n8x dlx Hi, is that 24hour Prime95 stable? -- Wayne ][ |
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Hi,
I'm running an AMD 2800 Barton on a A7n8x v2 board using 200X11.5 for 2305. It's rock solid. Also have 1 gig of 4000 hyper X ram, (dual channel) and Koolance water cooling. This thing kicks butt. CPU runs around 26-27 C most of the time. Never seen it past 29. I'm also running a PCI video card and a dual channel Matrox AGP card. Three 19" monitors on line. That's the one thing I couldn't do without. It's great to not have to minimize screens, just drag them to the 2nd or 3rd monitor. I can watch a DVD on one, surf the Net on another, and still have a monitor left for what ever else needs doing! It's like having three computers attached to one mouse and keyboard. Netguider |
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Hi Netguider, I have essentially the same setup as you: Koolance
water cool, 2800+ but 1 G of PC2700 DDR in Dual channel. I have a ATI Radeon 9000 pro with a digial and analog connector. When I plugged 2 monitors in, one digital and the other analog, they both displayed the same desktop, it's just like having duplicate monitors. Can you elaborate how you config your to work independently. Thanks On Tue, 6 Jan 2004 17:15:11 -0500, "Netguider" wrote: Hi, I'm running an AMD 2800 Barton on a A7n8x v2 board using 200X11.5 for 2305. It's rock solid. Also have 1 gig of 4000 hyper X ram, (dual channel) and Koolance water cooling. This thing kicks butt. CPU runs around 26-27 C most of the time. Never seen it past 29. I'm also running a PCI video card and a dual channel Matrox AGP card. Three 19" monitors on line. That's the one thing I couldn't do without. It's great to not have to minimize screens, just drag them to the 2nd or 3rd monitor. I can watch a DVD on one, surf the Net on another, and still have a monitor left for what ever else needs doing! It's like having three computers attached to one mouse and keyboard. Netguider |
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Hi,
I didn't really have to do anything special to make the three monitors work together. The AGP Matrox card has the software for the duel setup. When I installed the PCI card, XP-Pro found it and when I clicked on the "properties", "settings" menu, I show all three monitors on the screen. The two other boxes say, "Use this device as the primary monitor" and "Extend my Windows desktop onto this monitor." That brought up all three monitors. The cursor moves across all three. I can drag and drop between them. The Matrox software lets me run them independently or I can configure them to all show the same thing. I can even spread Excel across all three monitors! It's great. I think I'd go back to an old Radio Shack "Trash-80" before I'd give up the three monitors. I'm thinking about adding a fourth :-) Netguider |
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