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Mouse doesn't move
On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 16:43:56 -0500, philo
wrote: byteryder wrote: On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 13:50:34 -0500, "philo" wrote: "byteryder" wrote in message ... A couple days ago my kids mouse quit workin on his old pentium 200. It was a serial mouse and was fairly old so I just went and bought him a new one. I hooked the new one up and it still didn't work. I checked all the settings in the control panel and they all seemed right. I also rebooted and went into the CMOS to see if anything had been disabled. I finally got frustratedwith all the crap he had booting in the background everytime I re-booted that I formatted the hard drive and re-installed windows... thinking maybe he had messed up his drivers somehow. Stil nothing....... Now after all this he tells me, his mouse was snaggin under his desk and he had given it a good YANK. I checked the pins and they all SEEM fine, but I'm not sure if he somehow damaged the serial port etc. Is there any way to test the port???? did you get a real serial mouse or did you by a ps/2 mouse and then use an adaptor you already had? unless the mouse was designed to be used as serial or ps/2 it won't work if youir kid yanked on the cord, he could have damaged the mouse but it's not likely he hurt the port itself but it would not be a bad idea to open the case and check inside to be sure the wiring didn't come off The Original Mouse was a REAL serial mouse. I couldn't find a real one at Futureless Shop, so had to buy a PS2 mouse and adapter to fit the ps2 mouse and the serial port. I also just changed the cable that cmes off the motherboard to the serial port, thinking maybe he broke the connection at the pin, but still no luck. ok then you will have to get a real serial mouse Just bought a REAl serial mouse and installed the drivers.... Windows boots and comes up with a message saying there is no mouse attached. I then deleted the mouse in the controll panel\system\deviices (?) and reinstalled the driver for that mouse etc. ...... same problem. The time I'm killin tryin to fix his computer... I might be cheaper to buy him another one :-) ANY ideas would be appreciated |
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I noted one thing in all this. You changed the serial cable from the
motherboard to the case. There are two kinds of serial cables for the motherboard. One is wired in the DB-9 connector as 12345 6789 The other 13579 2468 It is possible (and probable by Murphy's law) that you put on the wrong type of cable so that the port is no longer set up as serial correctly. It seems to me that when fixing something, one solves the original problem but unknowingly cause secondary problems that drag out a problem turning it into a challenge of your patience and not your skills.. If you have any patience left, find the original cable and try it again. As a visual check, if you can compare the two cables by pulling back the black plastic shield over the wires and see how they are wired. It is visually quite easy to see the above mentioned patterns of wiring. I would do this in case as you said the original is defective. If you have any more spare DB-9 connectors, check them out til you get the right one. Other thoughts: 1) Is there two serial ports on the machine. If so, use the other. it is probably a DB-25 connector, try a DB-9 on it. Oh, the DB-25 can be wired differently too so don't mix up your DB-25 with others. Mark it or loop a gentle knot in it to identify it as the one from the system. That's what I do when playing with old systems. 2) Are the serial ports enabled in the BIOS correctly. Com1 IRQ4 3F8, Com2 IRQ3 2F8? 3) Do you have Norton Utilities DOS 7 or 8 or first Win95 version. There is NDIAGS that tests serial ports with a loopback plug. A DB-9 loopback plug is easy to wire up if you have a DB-9 connector. I can send the pinout. I use Norton with my own loopback plugs to test serial ports and printer ports. "byteryder" wrote in message ... On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 16:43:56 -0500, philo Just bought a REAl serial mouse and installed the drivers.... Windows boots and comes up with a message saying there is no mouse attached. I then deleted the mouse in the controll panel\system\deviices (?) and reinstalled the driver for that mouse etc. ...... same problem. The time I'm killin tryin to fix his computer... I might be cheaper to buy him another one :-) ANY ideas would be appreciated |
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Right On
Thanks All I checked the CMOS settings one more time and found one number wrong..... workin like a charm now! Thanks On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 01:10:22 GMT, "rcm711" wrote: I noted one thing in all this. You changed the serial cable from the motherboard to the case. There are two kinds of serial cables for the motherboard. One is wired in the DB-9 connector as 12345 6789 The other 13579 2468 It is possible (and probable by Murphy's law) that you put on the wrong type of cable so that the port is no longer set up as serial correctly. It seems to me that when fixing something, one solves the original problem but unknowingly cause secondary problems that drag out a problem turning it into a challenge of your patience and not your skills.. If you have any patience left, find the original cable and try it again. As a visual check, if you can compare the two cables by pulling back the black plastic shield over the wires and see how they are wired. It is visually quite easy to see the above mentioned patterns of wiring. I would do this in case as you said the original is defective. If you have any more spare DB-9 connectors, check them out til you get the right one. Other thoughts: 1) Is there two serial ports on the machine. If so, use the other. it is probably a DB-25 connector, try a DB-9 on it. Oh, the DB-25 can be wired differently too so don't mix up your DB-25 with others. Mark it or loop a gentle knot in it to identify it as the one from the system. That's what I do when playing with old systems. 2) Are the serial ports enabled in the BIOS correctly. Com1 IRQ4 3F8, Com2 IRQ3 2F8? 3) Do you have Norton Utilities DOS 7 or 8 or first Win95 version. There is NDIAGS that tests serial ports with a loopback plug. A DB-9 loopback plug is easy to wire up if you have a DB-9 connector. I can send the pinout. I use Norton with my own loopback plugs to test serial ports and printer ports. "byteryder" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 16:43:56 -0500, philo Just bought a REAl serial mouse and installed the drivers.... Windows boots and comes up with a message saying there is no mouse attached. I then deleted the mouse in the controll panel\system\deviices (?) and reinstalled the driver for that mouse etc. ...... same problem. The time I'm killin tryin to fix his computer... I might be cheaper to buy him another one :-) ANY ideas would be appreciated |
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Thanks for all the hepl people... Turned out my ports somehow got
configured wrong... Took the advice of one of ya in the NG and reconfigured my ports, and the kids happinen again! Now he's got a system again untill I put together a faster system from parts in the garage for him....... then I can take his old system and network it into the garage for scooter tips etc. Expect a lot more dumb questions grin Thanks Again On Sun, 22 Jun 2003 22:18:15 GMT, "Some One" wrote: snip did you get a real serial mouse or did you by a ps/2 mouse and then use an adaptor you already had? unless the mouse was designed to be used as serial or ps/2 it won't work if youir kid yanked on the cord, he could have damaged the mouse but it's not likely he hurt the port itself but it would not be a bad idea to open the case and check inside to be sure the wiring didn't come off The Original Mouse was a REAL serial mouse. I couldn't find a real one at Futureless Shop, so had to buy a PS2 mouse and adapter to fit the ps2 mouse and the serial port. You need to get a serial mouse. Just because they make an adapter doesn't mean it will work. The box should say "serial" or "PS/2 & serial". |
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