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carrier-less sata docks
most SATA drives, at least from a given manufacturer, seem to have their SATA connectors at the same place. does anyone make a dock for such SATA drives (preferably which fits into a 5 1/4 bay)? it would be nice to be able to swap in and swap out drives, even if it were restricted to just one manufacturer's drives. I believe the icydock and other drives all need carriers, which I would really like to avoid. /iaw |
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pity---such a carrier should be very cheap to make, so what if it is obsolete in 3 years? The SATA drives are so cheap ($400GB/$120), and nice and square, I with I could just push them in, backup to them, and put them into storage---as if they were the cartridge themselves. (It would take 4+ IOMEGA Revs at $200 to replicate this, and then I would be locked in with IOMEGA. The only appeal is that it is the cartridge that I can pop in and out.) When you talk about pushing the drive in, it sounds like you expect something to hold it in place mechanically, and the SATA connector itself isn't really enough for that. That's why the carrier. If you just want to attach the drive temporarily and don't mind it sitting loose, try this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16812156102 I have the PATA version and it's quite handy. |
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thanks, guy. pity---such a carrier should be very cheap to make, so what if it is obsolete in 3 years? It's not just the carrier but the back plane to which the carrier aligns the drive connectors. Think about being a carrier maker. You select a drive model, make a batch of backplanes and you're ready to sell them. Then the drive maker discontinues the drive and the replacement drive has the connectors in a slightly different place. Now you get to bin all your backplanes. The SATA drives are so cheap ($400GB/$120), and nice and square, I with I could just push them in, backup to them, and put them into storage---as if they were the cartridge themselves. (It would take 4+ IOMEGA Revs at $200 to replicate this, and then I would be locked in with IOMEGA. The only appeal is that it is the cartridge that I can pop in and out.) I wonder why the drive manufacturers themselves have not had this idea yet---it would sell a lot more of their drives. I imagine because most of the market is happy enough with the current solutions. /iaw Guy Dawson wrote: wrote: most SATA drives, at least from a given manufacturer, seem to have their SATA connectors at the same place. does anyone make a dock for such SATA drives (preferably which fits into a 5 1/4 bay)? it would be nice to be able to swap in and swap out drives, even if it were restricted to just one manufacturer's drives. I doubt any one makes a carrier less dock as it might well only be compatible with one manufacturers' drives. While this would be want you want it would limit the marker for the dock and is thus probably not what the manufacturer wants! I believe the icydock and other drives all need carriers, which I would really like to avoid. The carriers I've seen have their internal connectors on short leads making them compatible with many different drives... Guy -- Guy -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Guy Dawson I.T. Manager Crossflight Ltd |
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I think you are right---it is the drive manufacturer itself who should create this sort of device. It would need to consist only of a rail to guide along the drive until it hits a connector (and so that it sits there stable). It couldn't cost more than $5 to manufacture---and I do think it would sell a lot of drives for this particular manufacturer. Let's hope one of the SATA drive manufacturers will have this insight. Yes, it won't be for everyone, but it would work for some. I could almost guarantee that such a simple mechanical device would sell an extra 5 drives per computer for me. (PS: thanks for the bytecc link. The whole idea for me is to get rid of cables, carriers, etc. I really want it to sit in a standard computer, just like a CD-ROM drive.) /iaw Guy Dawson wrote: wrote: thanks, guy. pity---such a carrier should be very cheap to make, so what if it is obsolete in 3 years? It's not just the carrier but the back plane to which the carrier aligns the drive connectors. Think about being a carrier maker. You select a drive model, make a batch of backplanes and you're ready to sell them. Then the drive maker discontinues the drive and the replacement drive has the connectors in a slightly different place. Now you get to bin all your backplanes. The SATA drives are so cheap ($400GB/$120), and nice and square, I with I could just push them in, backup to them, and put them into storage---as if they were the cartridge themselves. (It would take 4+ IOMEGA Revs at $200 to replicate this, and then I would be locked in with IOMEGA. The only appeal is that it is the cartridge that I can pop in and out.) I wonder why the drive manufacturers themselves have not had this idea yet---it would sell a lot more of their drives. I imagine because most of the market is happy enough with the current solutions. /iaw Guy Dawson wrote: wrote: most SATA drives, at least from a given manufacturer, seem to have their SATA connectors at the same place. does anyone make a dock for such SATA drives (preferably which fits into a 5 1/4 bay)? it would be nice to be able to swap in and swap out drives, even if it were restricted to just one manufacturer's drives. I doubt any one makes a carrier less dock as it might well only be compatible with one manufacturers' drives. While this would be want you want it would limit the marker for the dock and is thus probably not what the manufacturer wants! I believe the icydock and other drives all need carriers, which I would really like to avoid. The carriers I've seen have their internal connectors on short leads making them compatible with many different drives... Guy -- Guy -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- Guy Dawson I.T. Manager Crossflight Ltd |
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I think you are right---it is the drive manufacturer itself who should create this sort of device. It would need to consist only of a rail to guide along the drive until it hits a connector (and so that it sits there stable). It couldn't cost more than $5 to manufacture---and I do think it would sell a lot of drives for this particular manufacturer. Let's hope one of the SATA drive manufacturers will have this insight. Yes, it won't be for everyone, but it would work for some. I could almost guarantee that such a simple mechanical device would sell an extra 5 drives per computer for me. (PS: thanks for the bytecc link. The whole idea for me is to get rid of cables, carriers, etc. I really want it to sit in a standard computer, just like a CD-ROM drive.) /iaw Hi! If I dont missunderstand you, you are looking for a thing like http://www.ssi.com.tw/products/SI-1168SS.html or http://www.raidsonic.de/en/pages/pro..._objectID=4342 with best regards Dieter Stumpner |
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I have a 4-drive hot swap unit that occupies 3x5.25" bays. The carriers
come with with unit. You can see it at: http://www.satadrives.com/sadrcafor4sa.html I'm very happy with it as it has solved the problems of drive power cables coming of the bare drives at the slightest touch which was a real pain. In my opinion whoever designed the power connector for SATA drives needs to be taken out and shot :-) -- Nik Simpson |
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Nik Simpson wrote: I have a 4-drive hot swap unit that occupies 3x5.25" bays. The carriers come with with unit. You can see it at: http://www.satadrives.com/sadrcafor4sa.html I'm very happy with it as it has solved the problems of drive power cables coming of the bare drives at the slightest touch which was a real pain. In my opinion whoever designed the power connector for SATA drives needs to be taken out and shot :-) I agree! I use the ones by Supermicro that have5 drives in 3x5.25" bay:: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...e-20/ref=nosim It takes just a minute to put a drive in the carrier. Either that or you can probably get more carriers and just keep the drives loaded in the carrier. |
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Hi! If I dont missunderstand you, you are looking for a thing like http://www.ssi.com.tw/products/SI-1168SS.html or http://www.raidsonic.de/en/pages/pro..._objectID=4342 with best regards Dieter Stumpner looks great. alas, not yet for sale in the US. hopefully soon. /iaw |
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