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Unable to detect IBM HDD. Error "Disk Boot Failure. Insert System Disk"
I have just bought a used Maxtor DiamondMax 80GB HDD and loaded WinXP on it
inc setting an extended partition using partition Magic. I wanted to transfer the data on my old IBM Desktar 30.7GB HDD so decided to boot from the old HDD and set the Maxtor to slave. All jumper setting were correct. When booting, all went through ok and I could see all partitions on all drives as different drive letters as well as CD:ROM and Floppy disk drives. I manually transferred the data from one drive letter to another in Explorer so that the data now is on the Maxtor HDD. Once I transferred all data I wanted, I then removed the IBM HDD and set the Maxtor to Master so it could boot on its own. All ok. I then realised I had missed off some data so decided to then set the IBM HDD to slave and leave the Maxtor as Master (i.e. Booting Windows from the Maxtor instead of the IBM as per the inital data transfer). It all boots up ok but I now cannot see the IBM HDD at all. I tried setting the IBM HDD to Master and boot on its own but get the error messgae of "Disk Boot Failure. Insert System Disk". I checked the BIOS and it cannot detect the IBM HDD now. I have checked all cables and all are ok because I can boot from the Maxtor HDD with no problems. I have had this IBM HDD for 5 years now. Can it have failed when I finished transfering data from one HDD to another? Will I need to recover the data from a specialist or is there anything further I can test to get the HDD detected at all and running as a Master or slave device? Any help will be extremely appreciated. Thanks Steve |
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Steve Jackson wrote:
I have just bought a used Maxtor DiamondMax 80GB HDD and loaded WinXP on it inc setting an extended partition using partition Magic. I wanted to transfer the data on my old IBM Desktar 30.7GB HDD so decided to boot from the old HDD and set the Maxtor to slave. All jumper setting were correct. When booting, all went through ok and I could see all partitions on all drives as different drive letters as well as CD:ROM and Floppy disk drives. I manually transferred the data from one drive letter to another in Explorer so that the data now is on the Maxtor HDD. Once I transferred all data I wanted, I then removed the IBM HDD and set the Maxtor to Master so it could boot on its own. All ok. I then realised I had missed off some data so decided to then set the IBM HDD to slave and leave the Maxtor as Master (i.e. Booting Windows from the Maxtor instead of the IBM as per the inital data transfer). It all boots up ok but I now cannot see the IBM HDD at all. I tried setting the IBM HDD to Master and boot on its own but get the error messgae of "Disk Boot Failure. Insert System Disk". I checked the BIOS and it cannot detect the IBM HDD now. I have checked all cables and all are ok because I can boot from the Maxtor HDD with no problems. I have had this IBM HDD for 5 years now. Can it have failed when I finished transfering data from one HDD to another? Will I need to recover the data from a specialist or is there anything further I can test to get the HDD detected at all and running as a Master or slave device? Any help will be extremely appreciated. Thanks Steve Yes, the IBM drive certainly could have died. Any hard drive regardless of age or brand is liable to fail at any time and that is just a matter of fact that none of us can avoid facing. But the odds that it would have died a natural death in that particular time span are very small so if it truly is dead it could have been the fact that it was moved and handled a bit too roughly. But before you give up you might go back and check _very_ carefully how the jumpers are set on the drive. If you were in a hurry you wouldn't be the first person to have slipped a jumper onto the wrong pair of pins or to have misinterpreted the vague little diagram on the drive's label. And while you are at it you might inspect the drive's 40-pin connector to make sure that a pin or two hasn't been mangled as this is something that happens all too regularly. Bent pins can usually be straightened with sufficient care. BTDT Another fallback is to try a different cable, different IDE channel, and different computer if it comes down to that. -- John McGaw [Knoxville, TN, USA] http://johnmcgaw.com |
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Thanks for the reponse.
Its a possibility I handled it a little too roughly though I didn't drop it or anything too drastic and it is the only time I have taken it out of its bay since putting the PC together. I've now double and triple checked the jumper settings - TNA. Could changing the jumper settings and setting both HDDs as master and slave at different points cause it to die, become corrupt at any point or just not be able to be detected anymore? Looks like I will have to go through the data recovery route unless anyone else has any other suggestions. Is data recovery still expensive? If so, how much would I expect to pay? "John McGaw" wrote in message ... Steve Jackson wrote: I have just bought a used Maxtor DiamondMax 80GB HDD and loaded WinXP on it inc setting an extended partition using partition Magic. I wanted to transfer the data on my old IBM Desktar 30.7GB HDD so decided to boot from the old HDD and set the Maxtor to slave. All jumper setting were correct. When booting, all went through ok and I could see all partitions on all drives as different drive letters as well as CD:ROM and Floppy disk drives. I manually transferred the data from one drive letter to another in Explorer so that the data now is on the Maxtor HDD. Once I transferred all data I wanted, I then removed the IBM HDD and set the Maxtor to Master so it could boot on its own. All ok. I then realised I had missed off some data so decided to then set the IBM HDD to slave and leave the Maxtor as Master (i.e. Booting Windows from the Maxtor instead of the IBM as per the inital data transfer). It all boots up ok but I now cannot see the IBM HDD at all. I tried setting the IBM HDD to Master and boot on its own but get the error messgae of "Disk Boot Failure. Insert System Disk". I checked the BIOS and it cannot detect the IBM HDD now. I have checked all cables and all are ok because I can boot from the Maxtor HDD with no problems. I have had this IBM HDD for 5 years now. Can it have failed when I finished transfering data from one HDD to another? Will I need to recover the data from a specialist or is there anything further I can test to get the HDD detected at all and running as a Master or slave device? Any help will be extremely appreciated. Thanks Steve Yes, the IBM drive certainly could have died. Any hard drive regardless of age or brand is liable to fail at any time and that is just a matter of fact that none of us can avoid facing. But the odds that it would have died a natural death in that particular time span are very small so if it truly is dead it could have been the fact that it was moved and handled a bit too roughly. But before you give up you might go back and check _very_ carefully how the jumpers are set on the drive. If you were in a hurry you wouldn't be the first person to have slipped a jumper onto the wrong pair of pins or to have misinterpreted the vague little diagram on the drive's label. And while you are at it you might inspect the drive's 40-pin connector to make sure that a pin or two hasn't been mangled as this is something that happens all too regularly. Bent pins can usually be straightened with sufficient care. BTDT Another fallback is to try a different cable, different IDE channel, and different computer if it comes down to that. -- John McGaw [Knoxville, TN, USA] http://johnmcgaw.com |
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Steve Jackson wrote:
Thanks for the reponse. Its a possibility I handled it a little too roughly though I didn't drop it or anything too drastic and it is the only time I have taken it out of its bay since putting the PC together. I've now double and triple checked the jumper settings - TNA. Could changing the jumper settings and setting both HDDs as master and slave at different points cause it to die, become corrupt at any point or just not be able to be detected anymore? Looks like I will have to go through the data recovery route unless anyone else has any other suggestions. Is data recovery still expensive? If so, how much would I expect to pay? "John McGaw" wrote in message ... Steve Jackson wrote: I have just bought a used Maxtor DiamondMax 80GB HDD and loaded WinXP on it inc setting an extended partition using partition Magic. I wanted to transfer the data on my old IBM Desktar 30.7GB HDD so decided to boot from the old HDD and set the Maxtor to slave. All jumper setting were correct. When booting, all went through ok and I could see all partitions on all drives as different drive letters as well as CD:ROM and Floppy disk drives. I manually transferred the data from one drive letter to another in Explorer so that the data now is on the Maxtor HDD. Once I transferred all data I wanted, I then removed the IBM HDD and set the Maxtor to Master so it could boot on its own. All ok. I then realised I had missed off some data so decided to then set the IBM HDD to slave and leave the Maxtor as Master (i.e. Booting Windows from the Maxtor instead of the IBM as per the inital data transfer). It all boots up ok but I now cannot see the IBM HDD at all. I tried setting the IBM HDD to Master and boot on its own but get the error messgae of "Disk Boot Failure. Insert System Disk". I checked the BIOS and it cannot detect the IBM HDD now. I have checked all cables and all are ok because I can boot from the Maxtor HDD with no problems. I have had this IBM HDD for 5 years now. Can it have failed when I finished transfering data from one HDD to another? Will I need to recover the data from a specialist or is there anything further I can test to get the HDD detected at all and running as a Master or slave device? Any help will be extremely appreciated. Thanks Steve Yes, the IBM drive certainly could have died. Any hard drive regardless of age or brand is liable to fail at any time and that is just a matter of fact that none of us can avoid facing. But the odds that it would have died a natural death in that particular time span are very small so if it truly is dead it could have been the fact that it was moved and handled a bit too roughly. But before you give up you might go back and check _very_ carefully how the jumpers are set on the drive. If you were in a hurry you wouldn't be the first person to have slipped a jumper onto the wrong pair of pins or to have misinterpreted the vague little diagram on the drive's label. And while you are at it you might inspect the drive's 40-pin connector to make sure that a pin or two hasn't been mangled as this is something that happens all too regularly. Bent pins can usually be straightened with sufficient care. BTDT Another fallback is to try a different cable, different IDE channel, and different computer if it comes down to that. -- John McGaw [Knoxville, TN, USA] http://johnmcgaw.com Simply swapping jumpers around should not cause problems unless a big static voltage was built up before you touched the drive or if a solder joint was on the verge of failing and the force of removing or replacing the jumper pushed it over the brink. Data recovery is IMHO outrageously expensive and not worthwhile for most individuals. I'm talking several hundred dollars to even have a firm look at it and much more if they actually do get anything back. I would certainly try the drive in a different computer and with a different cable before giving up on it. Good luck. -- John McGaw [Knoxville, TN, USA] http://johnmcgaw.com |
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Hi Steve,
This is Tony from Aurora Data Recovery. Your own comment that professional Data recovery may be an option is certainly a wise choice, but the deciding factor is yours alone, and is probably based upon the value of the information. In other words, is it easily replaceable such as net music, or is it difficult or even impossible to replace. The comment about astronomic charges by another contributor is highly inaccurate, at least, as concerns our company. There are certainly many data recovery companies motivated entirely by large profits, but not all. Beware of ANY companies using terms such as "Guaranteed Cheapest", using post boxes or mobile telephone numbers. Be equally cautious of ANY pay in advance schemes. From your own description of the events surrounding the problem, I think that a hard disk crash is most unlikely, the problem is probably rather easy to resolve; anyone telling you otherwise is trying to make a fast buck at your expense. Now for the advertising part: Aurora IT Systems have been in the data recovery business for more years than I care to admit; well over 20 in fact. We have state of the art labs and recover data from plane crashes, tsunami flooding, arson and deliberate sabotage. Your drive should represent no problem at all. I suggest that you take a look at our site: http://www.aurora.se And then either sent an email or give us a call. We are staffed every day of the year and additionally have very generous discounts ( -50%) for students and private users. I hope that we can assist you Tony |
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Hi Steve,
You might try the diagnostic tools provided by Maxtor: http://www.maxtor.com/portal/site/Ma...ndMax%20Family And if you need to do some data mining to get your files back, here are some freeware data recovery tools: http://free-backup.info/data-recovery-software.htm If your data is still unrecoverable, you might look into Nationwide data recovery in Miami. They charge $100-$500 for recovery with no charge if data is not recovered. It's hard to find a better deal than that. Regards, Chad http://free-backup.info |
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