Plextor 12/10/32A doesn't like TDK 48x CD-Rs

My Plextor 12/10/32A (firmware 1.04) with Nero 5.5.7.8 that have had
absolutely no problems burning CD-Rs up till now are having problems
with a spindle of TDK 48x that I bought. I've burned 3 coasters out of
nine tries. When I went looking for other blank media to try I noticed
that everything now is 48x and I'm wondering if this might be part of
my problem since my Plextor is only a 12x. The Plextor firmware is up
to 1.10 and Nero is up to 5.5.10.54 - is it worth updating either of
these to see if they will help?


George

On Mon, 24 Nov 2003 18:18:38 -0500, George Earl
wrote:

My Plextor 12/10/32A (firmware 1.04) with Nero 5.5.7.8 that have had
absolutely no problems burning CD-Rs up till now are having problems
with a spindle of TDK 48x that I bought. I've burned 3 coasters out of
nine tries. When I went looking for other blank media to try I noticed
that everything now is 48x and I'm wondering if this might be part of
my problem since my Plextor is only a 12x. The Plextor firmware is up
to 1.10 and Nero is up to 5.5.10.54 - is it worth updating either of
these to see if they will help?

Definitely update the firmware at the very least!

On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 08:31:31 -0500, wrote:

Definitely update the firmware at the very least!

Definitely? Why?

Generally, if your firmware works you should leave it alone.

The Plextor 12/10/32A is not like the new high speed burners that
contain a table of media vs burn speed in the firmware. A firmware
upgrade is not mandatory, may not fix his problem, and may introduce
some other problem.


To the OP. My 12/10/32A burns Fuji 48x discs fine at it's 12x speed.
I have the TY Fuji's, not those from the new supplier.

You would think that the TDKs would work. Try another brand if you
can.

Yes, I had great luck with those 48x TY Fuji's, never had even 1
coaster. I wish I had stocked up on them before they switched over to
made in Taiwan. I'll look around for sales on a brand different from
the TDK's (which Nero CDSpeed says are Riteks, by the way). Thanks for
your input.



George

On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 11:21:32 -0500, George Earl
wrote:


To the OP. My 12/10/32A burns Fuji 48x discs fine at it's 12x speed.
I have the TY Fuji's, not those from the new supplier.

You would think that the TDKs would work. Try another brand if you
can.

I forgot to ask - are you running on WinXP? Have you updated the
firmware on your 12/10/32A? Thanks!


George

George Earl wrote:
My Plextor 12/10/32A (firmware 1.04) with Nero 5.5.7.8 that have had
absolutely no problems burning CD-Rs up till now are having problems
with a spindle of TDK 48x that I bought. I've burned 3 coasters out of
nine tries. When I went looking for other blank media to try I noticed
that everything now is 48x and I'm wondering if this might be part of
my problem since my Plextor is only a 12x. The Plextor firmware is up
to 1.10 and Nero is up to 5.5.10.54 - is it worth updating either of
these to see if they will help?

Media optimized for high speeds often perform poorly at lower ones. Even
when you get good results, it's worth the effort to *measure* error rate
to be sure you are near the optimum and that the quality is good enough.

In this case, you may find that BrandX media work better for you since
they often cheat on the low side of claimed speed. Remember that the
drive cannot read the claims on the package; it only knows what it finds
in the ATIP, by calibration and by noticing *really* big errors.

Mike
--

http://www.mrichter.com/

George Earl wrote:

My Plextor 12/10/32A (firmware 1.04) with Nero 5.5.7.8 that have had
absolutely no problems burning CD-Rs up till now are having problems
with a spindle of TDK 48x that I bought. I've burned 3 coasters out of
nine tries. When I went looking for other blank media to try I noticed
that everything now is 48x and I'm wondering if this might be part of
my problem since my Plextor is only a 12x. The Plextor firmware is up
to 1.10 and Nero is up to 5.5.10.54 - is it worth updating either of
these to see if they will help?

George


Most TDK discs are now made by Ritek. Older Plextor's don't seem to like
some batches of Ritek discs much so I would advise trying a different
brand of disc. Recently I had a 100% success rate with one batch of
Ritek discs while only a 30% success rate with a slightly newer batch.

Cheers.

James.

On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 15:16:09 +0000, James Perrett
wrote:

Most TDK discs are now made by Ritek. Older Plextor's don't seem to like
some batches of Ritek discs much so I would advise trying a different
brand of disc. Recently I had a 100% success rate with one batch of
Ritek discs while only a 30% success rate with a slightly newer batch.

Cheers.

James.

Thanks for your input. Yes, Nero CDSpeed says my TDKs are Riteks . . .
guess I'll follow your lead and look for another brand . . .



George

In article ,
James Perrett wrote:
George Earl wrote:

My Plextor 12/10/32A (firmware 1.04) with Nero 5.5.7.8 that have had
absolutely no problems burning CD-Rs up till now are having problems
with a spindle of TDK 48x that I bought. I've burned 3 coasters out of
nine tries. When I went looking for other blank media to try I noticed
that everything now is 48x and I'm wondering if this might be part of
my problem since my Plextor is only a 12x. The Plextor firmware is up
to 1.10 and Nero is up to 5.5.10.54 - is it worth updating either of
these to see if they will help?

George


Most TDK discs are now made by Ritek. Older Plextor's don't seem to like
some batches of Ritek discs much so I would advise trying a different
brand of disc. Recently I had a 100% success rate with one batch of
Ritek discs while only a 30% success rate with a slightly newer batch.

I have the same drive with more recent (V1.09) firmware. It has no
problems writing error-free discs on the 48X TDK blanks; however, they ID
as being from CMC Magnetics, not Ritek.

On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 22:49:01 +0000 (UTC), (Mike S.)
wrote:

Most TDK discs are now made by Ritek. Older Plextor's don't seem to like
some batches of Ritek discs much so I would advise trying a different
brand of disc. Recently I had a 100% success rate with one batch of
Ritek discs while only a 30% success rate with a slightly newer batch.

I have the same drive with more recent (V1.09) firmware. It has no
problems writing error-free discs on the 48X TDK blanks; however, they ID
as being from CMC Magnetics, not Ritek.

Thanks for your response. Are you using Windows XP? Pro? Did you
update the firmware yourself? Did you notice any difference in
behavior afterwards? I just checked again and my TDKs also come up as
Ritek . . .



George

In article ,
George Earl wrote:
On Sat, 6 Dec 2003 22:49:01 +0000 (UTC), (Mike S.)
wrote:

Most TDK discs are now made by Ritek. Older Plextor's don't seem to like
some batches of Ritek discs much so I would advise trying a different
brand of disc. Recently I had a 100% success rate with one batch of
Ritek discs while only a 30% success rate with a slightly newer batch.

I have the same drive with more recent (V1.09) firmware. It has no
problems writing error-free discs on the 48X TDK blanks; however, they ID
as being from CMC Magnetics, not Ritek.

Thanks for your response. Are you using Windows XP? Pro? Did you
update the firmware yourself? Did you notice any difference in
behavior afterwards? I just checked again and my TDKs also come up as
Ritek . . .

George:

WinXP Pro, and I did the update myself.

As others have expressed in this thread, though, I'm not sure that a
firmware update is going to make the difference with the Ritek media. I do
remember, though, that along the way various firmware updates for this
drive have been for "improved write performance" with various types of
media.