Why bin/cue?

"Nehmo Sergheyev" wrote in message
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I got a program, Chief Architect v9 (Pantheon copy), off
eMule that was divided up into bin/cue files. I had never before
unpacked something in the bin/cue arrangement, but I was able to find
BinWizard v 3
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Port/9315/

And it worked. But BinWizard only asks for is the cue file, which is
substantially smaller than the que file. I imagine that the actual data
is in the bin but the cue somehow dictates how it's extracted or
arranged.

Apparently people use bin/cue when they burn CDs. What for? What's the
purpose of dividing something up into those types of files? And what
actually does each file do?

A BIN file is an ISO of, in your case, the original "Chief Architect"
software disc, and the CUE is its index file. More he
http://www.weethet.nl/english/cdrw_usingnero_bincue.php

Regards,
Ian.

Ionizer wrote:
"Nehmo Sergheyev" wrote in message
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I got a program, Chief Architect v9 (Pantheon copy), off eMule that
was divided up into bin/cue files. I had never before unpacked
something in the bin/cue arrangement, but I was able to find
BinWizard v 3 http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Port/9315/

And it worked. But BinWizard only asks for is the cue file, which
is substantially smaller than the que file. I imagine that the
actual data is in the bin but the cue somehow dictates how it's
extracted or arranged.

Apparently people use bin/cue when they burn CDs. What for? What's
the purpose of dividing something up into those types of files?
And what actually does each file do?


A BIN file is an ISO of, in your case, the original "Chief Architect"
software disc, and the CUE is its index file. More he
http://www.weethet.nl/english/cdrw_usingnero_bincue.php

A small but critical point: A BIN file is an image - not an ISO. An
'ISO' is a different form of image, that specified in ISO 9660.
Critically, the ISO spec covers only data discs where BIN/CUE can be
used for data or audio.

That alone gives one of the reasons for using BIN/CUE.

Mike
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Mike Richter (Lying Scum) wrote:

Ionizer wrote:
A BIN file is an ISO of, in your case, the original "Chief Architect"
software disc, and the CUE is its index file. More he
http://www.weethet.nl/english/cdrw_usingnero_bincue.php

A small but critical point: A BIN file is an image - not an ISO.

Another small but critical point: ISO is loosely used for images.

An 'ISO' is a different form of image, that specified in ISO 9660.
Critically, the ISO spec covers only data discs where BIN/CUE can be
used for data or audio.

Why don't you read about Andy's rants?

What's an ISO? A CIF? BIN and CUE? .DAT?
http://www.cdrfaq.org/faq02.html#S2-28

In common use, an "ISO" is a file that contains the complete image
of a disc. Such files are often used when transferring CD-ROM images
over the Internet.

Depending on who you're talking to, "ISO" may refer to
all disc image files or only certain kinds.

(Is the above "quite dated" and does it have "significant" errors,
Mikey?)

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From: Mike Richter (Slimy Scum)
Date: 5/24/02

I've posted privately to Andy on the FAQ section.

It is quite dated ... and has significant errors
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Lies. An ISO is a direct copy of a disc. It doesn't matter what is on the
disc, and as such can be an image of any disc, including CD-audio and DVD.

bin/cue is just another format. the .bin holds the data, the .cue holds
the layout of the data on the disc.

On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 23:22:26 +1300, London Midland & Scotland wrote:

BIN image Files can contain WAV Audio tracts, a ISO image can't

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Mike Richter (Lying Scum) wrote:

A BIN file is an ISO of, in your case, the original "Chief Architect"
software disc, and the CUE is its index file.

A small but critical point: A BIN file is an image - not an ISO.

Man, ain't you one smarty ass. Expert on all cdr matters?

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From: Mike Richter (Slimy Scum)
Subject: EZCD 5.02b Enhanced CD mode
Date: 8/28/01

There is no Enhanced CD Mode
- so, no, people have not used it.
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Mike Richter (Lying Scum) wrote:

A BIN file is an ISO of, in your case, the original "Chief Architect"
software disc, and the CUE is its index file.

A small but critical point: A BIN file is an image - not an ISO.

Man, ain't you one smarty ass. Expert on all cdr matters?

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From: Mike Richter (Slimy Scum)
Subject: Easy CD Creator makes CD-Extra disc with
Date: 9/15/01 no track titles

Is there any way to make a CD-Extra disc and get the track
information on it?

If you want to do a true CD Extra, you have to comply with
the rules for CD Extra - which means TAO and no titles.

ECDC and anything else which complies with the standard will
comply with the standard.

I know that's hard to accept, but try - real hard.
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Mike Richter (Lying Scum) wrote:

A BIN file is an ISO of, in your case, the original "Chief Architect"
software disc, and the CUE is its index file.

A small but critical point: A BIN file is an image - not an ISO.

Man, ain't you one smarty ass. Expert on all cdr matters?

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From: Mike Richter (Slimy Scum)
Date: 6/29/01

CD Extra, in which there is a single session
with tracks of both types
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I think you will find that it can contain any sort of file you want ;-)

On Fri, 28 Nov 2003 13:20:47 +1300, London Midland & Scotland wrote:

ISO CAN'T CONTAIN WAV FILES, AUDIO TRACKS..

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London Midland & Scotland wrote:
On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 18:14:48 +0000, Vigil wrote:


Lies. An ISO is a direct copy of a disc. It doesn't matter what is on the
disc, and as such can be an image of any disc, including CD-audio and DVD.


Why post when you just do not have a clue..

ISO CAN'T CONTAIN WAV FILES, AUDIO TRACKS..

You two are in essential agreement - what may be called "violent
agreement" - though neither is altogether correct. The ISO 9660 standard
provides an image format (called an 'ISO' and often having an extension
of .ISO) which covers only properly formed data discs. The data stored
may be in any sort of file, including WAV. Since an audio track is not a
file, it cannot be included in an 'ISO'. There are other kinds of
information which can be on a disc but will not be imaged in an
'ISO'including the deliberately malformed structures used in 'copy
protection'.

Mike
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Mike Richter (Lying Scum) wrote:

A BIN file is an ISO of, in your case, the original "Chief Architect"
software disc, and the CUE is its index file.

A small but critical point: A BIN file is an image - not an ISO.

Man, ain't you one smarty ass. Expert on all cdr matters?

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From: Mike Richter (Slimy Scum)
Date: 9/16/01

There is a specification for CD Extra which defines it
as a single session containing audio tracks followed
by a data *track*.
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