had it with DirectCD

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Mike Richter (Friggin ****) splattered (9/21/04):

There is nothing wrong with packet writing itself, rather the problem has
been the poorly designed/implemented, and less than adequately tested,
implementations of ISO/IEC 13346.

The problem in fact lies with the error rate of CD media in general and
the specific problems of erasable media.

The impact comes in the TOC,
which despite the best efforts of the implementers must at least in part
be scrubbed - erased and rewritten - whenever a file is written or erased.

TOC? Wow! What a Friggin ****!

Anyhow, whatever happened to the Directory?

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From: Mike Richter (Roxio ****)
Date: 11/6/02

The nominal 1000 cycles has appeared to be a fiction
to all of us who used fixed-length packets.

Unfortunately, the first area to go (for understandable reasons)
is that of the directory.
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Mikey, do you also have "understandable reasons" for the TOC?
Is the TOC the same as the Directory, Mikey?

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Mike Richter (Friggin ****) splattered (9/21/04):

There is nothing wrong with packet writing itself, rather the problem has
been the poorly designed/implemented, and less than adequately tested,
implementations of ISO/IEC 13346.

The problem in fact lies with the error rate of CD media in general and
the specific problems of erasable media.

The impact comes in the TOC,
which despite the best efforts of the implementers must at least in part
be scrubbed - erased and rewritten - whenever a file is written or erased.

TOC? Wow! What a Friggin ****!

Anyhow, whatever happened to the Directory?

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From: Mike Richter (Slimy ****)
Date: 12/29/02

packet writing uses more erase cycles in the directory area
than many believe.
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Are there many who don't understand the "understandable reasons", Mikey?
BTW, is the TOC the same as the Directory, Mikey?

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Mike Richter (Friggin ****) splattered (9/21/04):

There is nothing wrong with packet writing itself, rather the problem has
been the poorly designed/implemented, and less than adequately tested,
implementations of ISO/IEC 13346.

The problem in fact lies with the error rate of CD media in general and
the specific problems of erasable media.

The impact comes in the TOC,
which despite the best efforts of the implementers must at least in part
be scrubbed - erased and rewritten - whenever a file is written or erased.

TOC? Wow! What a Friggin ****!

Is the TOC one of the critical areas you referred to here?

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From: Mike Richter (Slimy ****)
Date: 3/30/03

The nominal life of an erasable is 1000 erase cycles, but
that has not been realized in practice for many reasons.

One is that critical areas of the disc are "erased"
every time you modify one and eject it.
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Is the Directory one of the critical areas, Mikey?
Is the TOC the same as the Directory?

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Mike Richter (Friggin ****) splattered (9/21/04):

There is nothing wrong with packet writing itself, rather the problem has
been the poorly designed/implemented, and less than adequately tested,
implementations of ISO/IEC 13346.

The problem in fact lies with the error rate of CD media in general and
the specific problems of erasable media.

The impact comes in the TOC,
which despite the best efforts of the implementers must at least in part
be scrubbed - erased and rewritten - whenever a file is written or erased.

TOC? Wow! What a Friggin ****!

Anyhow, whatever happened to the Directory?

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From: Mike Richter (Roxio ****)
Date: 4/30/01

Mike Richter (Slimy ****) splattered:

the directory information for fixed-length packets
is held in RAM.

An utterly stupid design, IMHO.

Unfortunately, it's unavoidable.

The problem is that the information cannot be written back every
time or the directory area would be worn out very quickly.
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Do both the TOC and the Directory get rewritten, Mikey?

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Mike Richter (Slimy ****) splattered:

Howard Kaikow (w/ Leaky Assholes) splashed:

There is nothing wrong with packet writing itself, rather the problem has
been the poorly designed/implemented, and less than adequately tested,
implementations of ISO/IEC 13346.
snip

The problem in fact lies with the error rate of CD media in general and
the specific problems of erasable media. The impact comes in the TOC,
which despite the best efforts of the implementers must at least in part
be scrubbed - erased and rewritten - whenever a file is written or erased.

Because of the limited number of erase cycles the medium will tolerate,

The same limitation on erasures means that the disc is fully fragmented
by design - the sectors of even the first file written are scattered
across the disc so that - except for that critical area of the TOC -
no region will be scrubbed if a file is updated frequently.

"except for that critical area of the TOC"

Why then even bother with fragmenting ???!!!

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Mike Richter (Slimy ****) splattered:

Howard Kaikow (w/ Leaky Assholes) splashed:

There is nothing wrong with packet writing itself, rather the problem has
been the poorly designed/implemented, and less than adequately tested,
implementations of ISO/IEC 13346.
snip

The problem in fact lies with the error rate of CD media in general and
the specific problems of erasable media. The impact comes in the TOC,
which despite the best efforts of the implementers must at least in part
be scrubbed - erased and rewritten - whenever a file is written or erased.

Because of the limited number of erase cycles the medium will tolerate,

The same limitation on erasures means that the disc is fully fragmented
by design - the sectors of even the first file written are scattered
across the disc so that - except for that critical area of the TOC -
no region will be scrubbed if a file is updated frequently.

"except for that critical area of the TOC"

Why then even bother with fragmenting ???!!!

Anyhow, forgot about the Directory area, Mikey? Imagine packet written
CD-RW's have double whammy!!

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Mike Richter (Roxio ****) splattered (2/6/02):

When you remove a fixed-length packet disc after having written
anything to it, the directory information is written back from
RAM. That means that at least portions of the disc are "scrubbed"
- rewritten many times. The disc is supposed to tolerate 1000
cycles, but in fact read accuracy goes down continuously with
erase cycles and the 1000 number seems absurdly optimistic from
the experience of most.

If that's the case, why does DirectCD even bother to use SPARING
technique, Mikey?
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Mike Richter (Friggin SOB) screeched (9/21/04):

There is nothing wrong with packet writing itself, rather the problem has
been the poorly designed/implemented, and less than adequately tested,
implementations of ISO/IEC 13346.

The problem in fact lies with the error rate of CD media in general and
the specific problems of erasable media.

The impact comes in the TOC,
which must at least in part be scrubbed - erased and rewritten -
whenever a file is written or erased.

Forgot about the Directory, Slimeball?

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From: Mike Richter (Friggin SOB)
Date: 10/18/04

I am using InCD (3.5) to write to CD-RW's.

every time you unmount the disc after making any change
to its contents means another erase cycle in at least

a key area of the DIRECTORY.

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(Puny "erase cycle" instead of "scrubbing"?)

Do the TOC and the Directory get scrubbed at the same time?

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Wow! What a Friggin SOB!
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Mike Richter (Slimy Friggin SOB) spewed:

Graham Mayor (Mikey S-licker) slurped:

In as much as the packet formatting used by such applications is reliable,
then Direct CD is arguably the best. Problem is that such applications are
not the best way of putting data on discs.

You are a bit hard on packet writing. I've had no trouble with
variable-length packets; writing, reliability and reading have all been
flawless. Of course, fixed-length is another matter.

Problems with fixed-length packet writing, Slimy Friggin SOB?

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From: Mike Richter (Acraptec ****)
Subject: A note on Take Two
Date: 9/1/99

For Take Two to work IDEALLY, your drive must support
packet writing and you must have DCD installed...to do it.

You may back up...to a DCD-formatted erasable.
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What's "ideally" doing in the above, Slimy Friggin SOB?

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