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Old April 9th 10, 04:11 PM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
NJ_Annie
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Default Can you still buy "new" DELLs with XP...???

Can you still purchase a new PC from DELL with Windows XP as the
operating system? I am just very comfortable with XP and would like
it as my op system.

Thanks in advance

annie
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Old April 9th 10, 05:13 PM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
William R. Walsh[_2_]
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Default Can you still buy "new" DELLs with XP...???

Yes, but you will have to buy from a Dell business store at their web
site. (This isn't hard to do--individuals can buy from the small
business store. I recommend that they do so.) As far as I know, XP is
only offered on some systems.

William
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Old April 9th 10, 05:14 PM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
David Harper[_2_]
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Default Can you still buy "new" DELLs with XP...???


"NJ_Annie" wrote in message
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Can you still purchase a new PC from DELL with Windows XP as the
operating system? I am just very comfortable with XP and would like
it as my op system.


Yes, from the Small and Medium Business side. Both laptops and desktops.
You sometimes have to choose a particular model before you can select
"Downgrade to XP".

- David Harper

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Old April 9th 10, 08:15 PM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
Christopher Muto
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Default Can you still buy "new" DELLs with XP...???

NJ_Annie wrote:
Can you still purchase a new PC from DELL with Windows XP as the
operating system? I am just very comfortable with XP and would like
it as my op system.

Thanks in advance

annie


technically you can only buy new computers with Windows 7, however
machines sold from the Dell Business and Education divisions can be
purchased with Windows 7 Professional with what they call a 'downgrade'
of having it shipped with Windows XP Professional pre-installed. In
other words, XP Professional can be had pre-installed on a new system,
but you actually purchase Windows 7 Professional along with permission
to run XP Professional. XP Home can not be had in any way. Since
Windows 7 Professional is not available on any machines sold by Dell's
Home division you can not get a machine from them with Windows XP
Professional pre-installed.
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Old April 9th 10, 11:48 PM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
Ron Hardin
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Default Can you still buy "new" DELLs with XP...???

NJ_Annie wrote:

Can you still purchase a new PC from DELL with Windows XP as the
operating system? I am just very comfortable with XP and would like
it as my op system.

Thanks in advance

annie


Yes, go to small business. You can buy an XP Pro downgrade, and it comes loaded
with XP Pro, and you get a DVD for the O/S you don't want.

At the outlet, even better (better prices, if you look on enough days) just
specify the XP operating system in the search.

Some Windows 7 systems in addition have an XP downgrade listed among the system's
software upgrades, and these also come with XP Pro loaded. (Ie the XP downgrade
isn't always listed in the operating system column)
--


On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.
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Old April 10th 10, 01:50 AM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
Christopher Muto
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Default Can you still buy "new" DELLs with XP...???

Christopher Muto wrote:
NJ_Annie wrote:
Can you still purchase a new PC from DELL with Windows XP as the
operating system? I am just very comfortable with XP and would like
it as my op system.

Thanks in advance

annie


technically you can only buy new computers with Windows 7, however
machines sold from the Dell Business and Education divisions can be
purchased with Windows 7 Professional with what they call a 'downgrade'
of having it shipped with Windows XP Professional pre-installed. In
other words, XP Professional can be had pre-installed on a new system,
but you actually purchase Windows 7 Professional along with permission
to run XP Professional. XP Home can not be had in any way. Since
Windows 7 Professional is not available on any machines sold by Dell's
Home division you can not get a machine from them with Windows XP
Professional pre-installed.


ps... machines purchased today with "windows 7 pro with xp pro
downgrade pre installed" do not come with a windows xp cd and they do
not have a dell system restore recovery partition. they do come with
the windows 7 pro dvd. if you need to restore the system with xp dell
(currently) will send you the required windows xp cd. either way, the
only way to restore these systems is from booting from an operating
system cd/dvd.

i find dell's decision to do this, particularly on their 'quickship'
machines, to be an example of how poorly run they are these days. if
the quickship systems with xp pro downgrade had system restore with an
image of windows 7 pro then these machines would serve a dual purpose.
people wanting either operating system would find these machines
desirable and provide dell with the ability to stock a single inventory
item.
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Old April 10th 10, 02:56 AM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
Daddy[_3_]
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Default Can you still buy "new" DELLs with XP...???

Christopher Muto wrote:
Christopher Muto wrote:
NJ_Annie wrote:
Can you still purchase a new PC from DELL with Windows XP as the
operating system? I am just very comfortable with XP and would like
it as my op system.

Thanks in advance

annie


technically you can only buy new computers with Windows 7, however
machines sold from the Dell Business and Education divisions can be
purchased with Windows 7 Professional with what they call a
'downgrade' of having it shipped with Windows XP Professional
pre-installed. In other words, XP Professional can be had
pre-installed on a new system, but you actually purchase Windows 7
Professional along with permission to run XP Professional. XP Home
can not be had in any way. Since Windows 7 Professional is not
available on any machines sold by Dell's Home division you can not get
a machine from them with Windows XP Professional pre-installed.


ps... machines purchased today with "windows 7 pro with xp pro
downgrade pre installed" do not come with a windows xp cd and they do
not have a dell system restore recovery partition. they do come with
the windows 7 pro dvd. if you need to restore the system with xp dell
(currently) will send you the required windows xp cd. either way, the
only way to restore these systems is from booting from an operating
system cd/dvd.

i find dell's decision to do this, particularly on their 'quickship'
machines, to be an example of how poorly run they are these days. if
the quickship systems with xp pro downgrade had system restore with an
image of windows 7 pro then these machines would serve a dual purpose.
people wanting either operating system would find these machines
desirable and provide dell with the ability to stock a single inventory
item.


To be fair to Dell: The 'downgrade to Windows XP' was not meant to be a
way for people to buy a Windows XP computer. The downgrade feature is
for XP users who have to upgrade to Windows 7 'now' (e.g., got a new
job; company is standardizing on Windows 7) and need time to learn the
new OS and perhaps upgrade their software. The anticipation is that the
user will move to Windows 7 within a short time.

To the OP: Whether you like it or not, XP is quickly becoming history.
You're not doing yourself any favors by clinging to it. I wish I could
still use Windows 98 SE and Netscape Navigator.

Daddy
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Old April 10th 10, 03:25 AM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
RnR[_2_]
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Default Can you still buy "new" DELLs with XP...???

On Fri, 09 Apr 2010 21:56:02 -0400, Daddy
wrote:

Christopher Muto wrote:
Christopher Muto wrote:
NJ_Annie wrote:
Can you still purchase a new PC from DELL with Windows XP as the
operating system? I am just very comfortable with XP and would like
it as my op system.

Thanks in advance

annie

technically you can only buy new computers with Windows 7, however
machines sold from the Dell Business and Education divisions can be
purchased with Windows 7 Professional with what they call a
'downgrade' of having it shipped with Windows XP Professional
pre-installed. In other words, XP Professional can be had
pre-installed on a new system, but you actually purchase Windows 7
Professional along with permission to run XP Professional. XP Home
can not be had in any way. Since Windows 7 Professional is not
available on any machines sold by Dell's Home division you can not get
a machine from them with Windows XP Professional pre-installed.


ps... machines purchased today with "windows 7 pro with xp pro
downgrade pre installed" do not come with a windows xp cd and they do
not have a dell system restore recovery partition. they do come with
the windows 7 pro dvd. if you need to restore the system with xp dell
(currently) will send you the required windows xp cd. either way, the
only way to restore these systems is from booting from an operating
system cd/dvd.

i find dell's decision to do this, particularly on their 'quickship'
machines, to be an example of how poorly run they are these days. if
the quickship systems with xp pro downgrade had system restore with an
image of windows 7 pro then these machines would serve a dual purpose.
people wanting either operating system would find these machines
desirable and provide dell with the ability to stock a single inventory
item.


To be fair to Dell: The 'downgrade to Windows XP' was not meant to be a
way for people to buy a Windows XP computer. The downgrade feature is
for XP users who have to upgrade to Windows 7 'now' (e.g., got a new
job; company is standardizing on Windows 7) and need time to learn the
new OS and perhaps upgrade their software. The anticipation is that the
user will move to Windows 7 within a short time.

To the OP: Whether you like it or not, XP is quickly becoming history.
You're not doing yourself any favors by clinging to it. I wish I could
still use Windows 98 SE and Netscape Navigator.



That's very controversial advice based on what I've read so far.
Personally I have no clue right now.
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Old April 10th 10, 08:14 AM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
Christopher Muto
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Default Can you still buy "new" DELLs with XP...???

Daddy wrote:
Christopher Muto wrote:
Christopher Muto wrote:
NJ_Annie wrote:
Can you still purchase a new PC from DELL with Windows XP as the
operating system? I am just very comfortable with XP and would like
it as my op system.

Thanks in advance

annie

technically you can only buy new computers with Windows 7, however
machines sold from the Dell Business and Education divisions can be
purchased with Windows 7 Professional with what they call a
'downgrade' of having it shipped with Windows XP Professional
pre-installed. In other words, XP Professional can be had
pre-installed on a new system, but you actually purchase Windows 7
Professional along with permission to run XP Professional. XP Home
can not be had in any way. Since Windows 7 Professional is not
available on any machines sold by Dell's Home division you can not
get a machine from them with Windows XP Professional pre-installed.


ps... machines purchased today with "windows 7 pro with xp pro
downgrade pre installed" do not come with a windows xp cd and they do
not have a dell system restore recovery partition. they do come with
the windows 7 pro dvd. if you need to restore the system with xp dell
(currently) will send you the required windows xp cd. either way, the
only way to restore these systems is from booting from an operating
system cd/dvd.

i find dell's decision to do this, particularly on their 'quickship'
machines, to be an example of how poorly run they are these days. if
the quickship systems with xp pro downgrade had system restore with an
image of windows 7 pro then these machines would serve a dual purpose.
people wanting either operating system would find these machines
desirable and provide dell with the ability to stock a single
inventory item.


To be fair to Dell: The 'downgrade to Windows XP' was not meant to be a
way for people to buy a Windows XP computer. The downgrade feature is
for XP users who have to upgrade to Windows 7 'now' (e.g., got a new
job; company is standardizing on Windows 7) and need time to learn the
new OS and perhaps upgrade their software. The anticipation is that the
user will move to Windows 7 within a short time.

To the OP: Whether you like it or not, XP is quickly becoming history.
You're not doing yourself any favors by clinging to it. I wish I could
still use Windows 98 SE and Netscape Navigator.

Daddy


i have no idea what you are trying to say.
microsoft states that they no longer sell windows xp. but they do sell
windows 7 pro with a license that states you may run windows xp pro
instead if you prefer. the reasons are pretty simple - microsoft
doesn't want to attribute any new sales to xp and corporations that are
not ready to migrate to windows 7 which requires significant costs in
hardware and software upgrades. these are microsoft issues. my comment
about dell is really simple, if they are not going to provide a windows
xp cd or a recovery partition on machines sold with the xp pro downgrade
then they should at least put an windows 7 recovery partition on it. it
would make recovery simple, make the pre built 'quick ship' machines
dual purpose, and cost them nothing to do so. it is almost as lame as
the fact that the quick ship machines are sold without monitors and the
monitors don't arrive until days later... making quickship desktops
pretty much a waste of money (they cos about 25% more than build to
order and you have to compromise on the configuration - and the
operating system in the case of xp downgrade machines).
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Old April 10th 10, 03:17 PM posted to alt.sys.pc-clone.dell
timdrouillard
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Default Can you still buy "new" DELLs with XP...???

FYI,
We just bought a 'Fastrack' Latitude E6400 laptop two weeks ago and it did
come with BOTH the Windows 7 DVD as well as the XP Pro SP3 CD along with
driver DVD's for each.

"Christopher Muto" wrote in message
...
Christopher Muto wrote:
NJ_Annie wrote:
Can you still purchase a new PC from DELL with Windows XP as the
operating system? I am just very comfortable with XP and would like
it as my op system.

Thanks in advance

annie


technically you can only buy new computers with Windows 7, however
machines sold from the Dell Business and Education divisions can be
purchased with Windows 7 Professional with what they call a 'downgrade'
of having it shipped with Windows XP Professional pre-installed. In
other words, XP Professional can be had pre-installed on a new system,
but you actually purchase Windows 7 Professional along with permission to
run XP Professional. XP Home can not be had in any way. Since Windows 7
Professional is not available on any machines sold by Dell's Home
division you can not get a machine from them with Windows XP Professional
pre-installed.


ps... machines purchased today with "windows 7 pro with xp pro downgrade
pre installed" do not come with a windows xp cd and they do not have a
dell system restore recovery partition. they do come with the windows 7
pro dvd. if you need to restore the system with xp dell (currently) will
send you the required windows xp cd. either way, the only way to restore
these systems is from booting from an operating system cd/dvd.

i find dell's decision to do this, particularly on their 'quickship'
machines, to be an example of how poorly run they are these days. if the
quickship systems with xp pro downgrade had system restore with an image
of windows 7 pro then these machines would serve a dual purpose. people
wanting either operating system would find these machines desirable and
provide dell with the ability to stock a single inventory item.


 




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