IOPS calculation for SAN Design

Hi, we want to establish a SAN in near future and therefore we
calculate the technical basics at the moment. First of all we are
interested in disk performance, particularly with regard to iops and
throughput. The capacity planer from VMware delivers the average
values of PhysicalDisk\trans, PhysicalDisk\Bytes/s per server and
overall. According to these results, we have only a few iops (peak
load 162) with 20 servers. In this analysis I have no declaration of
the peak value per server, so I tried to find it out with the
Microsoft perfmon. Here I get some strange values. I logged the disk
performance with perfmon during one day. Perfmon shows a peak value of
PhysicalDisk\trans/s of over 2000 (iops) at a server witch two SATA
disks (Raid-1). The technical datasheet of these disks contain a
typical value of 85 iops. Can this be true? How can I get realistic
peak values of really existing iops to make a realistic design?

Thanks for help,

Holger

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Hi, we want to establish a SAN in near future and therefore we
calculate the technical basics at the moment. First of all we are
interested in disk performance, particularly with regard to iops and
throughput. The capacity planer from VMware delivers the average
values of PhysicalDisk\trans, PhysicalDisk\Bytes/s per server and
overall. According to these results, we have only a few iops (peak
load 162) with 20 servers. In this analysis I have no declaration of
the peak value per server, so I tried to find it out with the
Microsoft perfmon. Here I get some strange values. I logged the disk
performance with perfmon during one day. Perfmon shows a peak value of
PhysicalDisk\trans/s of over 2000 (iops) at a server witch two SATA
disks (Raid-1). The technical datasheet of these disks contain a
typical value of 85 iops. Can this be true? How can I get realistic
peak values of really existing iops to make a realistic design?

Thanks for help,

Holger

On Sat, 06 Oct 2007 06:03:05 -0700, wrote:

Hi, we want to establish a SAN in near future and therefore we
calculate the technical basics at the moment. First of all we are
interested in disk performance, particularly with regard to iops and
throughput. The capacity planer from VMware delivers the average
values of PhysicalDisk\trans, PhysicalDisk\Bytes/s per server and
overall. According to these results, we have only a few iops (peak
load 162) with 20 servers. In this analysis I have no declaration of
the peak value per server, so I tried to find it out with the
Microsoft perfmon. Here I get some strange values. I logged the disk
performance with perfmon during one day. Perfmon shows a peak value of
PhysicalDisk\trans/s of over 2000 (iops) at a server witch two SATA
disks (Raid-1). The technical datasheet of these disks contain a
typical value of 85 iops. Can this be true? How can I get realistic
peak values of really existing iops to make a realistic design?

Thanks for help,

Holger

Your stats are showing cache ops, not disk. If you use hardware raid
the controller will have some amount of cache or even if you are using
a single drive the OS will do write caching to memory unless you
specifically mount the file system with forcedirectio (unix only, not
sure what Windows uses).

The thing about cache is that, no matter how much you have, you can
only delay the inevitable if you have alot of IO. For instance, if
you bottleneck on IO with 10G of cache after 30 seconds, adding
another 10G of cache will only delay the bottleneck for 1 minute or
so. If you are IOP intensive then you need to look at disk IOPS and
cache will just be gravy.

Disk IOPS are generally 80 for SATA and 120 for FC. Use those numbers
to determine your requirements and you won't get bottlenecked.

Something to keep in mind too, IOPS and throughput are not directly
related. If you have 10 SATA drives you can get ~800 IOPS total, but
if your data is large sequential you could get 200MB/sec of
throughput.

~F

On 6 oct, 08:03, wrote:
Hi, we want to establish a SAN in near future and therefore we
calculate the technical basics at the moment. First of all we are
interested in disk performance, particularly with regard to iops and
throughput. The capacity planer from VMware delivers the average
values of PhysicalDisk\trans, PhysicalDisk\Bytes/s per server and
overall. According to these results, we have only a few iops (peak
load 162) with 20 servers. In this analysis I have no declaration of
the peak value per server, so I tried to find it out with the
Microsoft perfmon. Here I get some strange values. I logged the disk
performance with perfmon during one day. Perfmon shows a peak value of
PhysicalDisk\trans/s of over 2000 (iops) at a server witch two SATA
disks (Raid-1). The technical datasheet of these disks contain a
typical value of 85 iops. Can this be true? How can I get realistic
peak values of really existing iops to make a realistic design?

Thanks for help,

Holger


Hi Holger,

First, and it's a rule, create your sizing at 70% of you peak, that's
mean, if you have 2000 IOPS in your peak IO you must to configure your
storage thinking in 2860 IOPS because it's a rule of the thumb, so,
how many disks you need, depends, First you must consider, a physical
disk can operate in average between 130 and 150 IOPS per disk, so, if
you have 2860 IOPS you must to install 22 HDD aprox. and then you can
obtain this 2860 IOPS. and depends of RAID level that you're using is
the USABLE space that you can obtain, so here's another variable, cost
per transaction. becuase if you are using RAID 5 you obtain more
USABLE space than RAID 1+0.

I hope that's information is useful for your.

regards.

Don't under estimate the value of cache. I believe if you have an
intelligent raid controller using cache effectively you're backend
disks won't need to meet the peak iops you measured in many
situations.

For example, are the 2000 iops a mixture of reads and writes. Read
cache hits would require no physical disk operation. I have seen a
hitachi 9980 serving storage for a multi terabyte transaction
processing database maintain a very good cache hit rate.

Also, when a raid controller has write cache it can stage writes to
physical media efficiently so that 2000 iops from the host's view
would result in something potentially much smaller on the array's
backend disks.

Regards,
Vic


On Oct 18, 9:58 pm, alexup wrote:
On 6 oct, 08:03, wrote:



Hi, we want to establish a SAN in near future and therefore we
calculate the technical basics at the moment. First of all we are
interested in disk performance, particularly with regard to iops and
throughput. The capacity planer from VMware delivers the average
values of PhysicalDisk\trans, PhysicalDisk\Bytes/s per server and
overall. According to these results, we have only a few iops (peak
load 162) with 20 servers. In this analysis I have no declaration of
the peak value per server, so I tried to find it out with the
Microsoft perfmon. Here I get some strange values. I logged the disk
performance with perfmon during one day. Perfmon shows a peak value of
PhysicalDisk\trans/s of over 2000 (iops) at a server witch two SATA
disks (Raid-1). The technical datasheet of these disks contain a
typical value of 85 iops. Can this be true? How can I get realistic
peak values of really existing iops to make a realistic design?

Thanks for help,

Holger

Hi Holger,

First, and it's a rule, create your sizing at 70% of you peak, that's
mean, if you have 2000 IOPS in your peak IO you must to configure your
storage thinking in 2860 IOPS because it's a rule of the thumb, so,
how many disks you need, depends, First you must consider, a physical
disk can operate in average between 130 and 150 IOPS per disk, so, if
you have 2860 IOPS you must to install 22 HDD aprox. and then you can
obtain this 2860 IOPS. and depends of RAID level that you're using is
the USABLE space that you can obtain, so here's another variable, cost
per transaction. becuase if you are using RAID 5 you obtain more
USABLE space than RAID 1+0.

I hope that's information is useful for your.

regards.