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LCD Monitors, Should I buy one?
I have been thinking of buying one LCD. I have a very nice monitor, and
I love tube monitors. LCD monitors have turned me off because nearly all LCD makers don't want to sell backlight for the LCD, and present LCD won't work with HD-DVD due to "systemwide content protection scheme called PVP-OPM" (see the link below & small summary). Furthermore, companies have it diffcult for anyone to replace LCD backlight. Do you guys know any LCD monitors that is user friendly, by that I mean replacing brunt LCD CCFL backlight, and Inverter Board is easy & simple. Finally, should I wait until HD DVD friendly monitors are here? See the link: http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,122738,00.asp ***************************** Most Monitors Won't Play New HD Video Vista's content protection will block or blur high-def movies on today's displays. Scott Spanbauer From the November 2005 issue of PC World magazine If you dropped a bundle on a high-end computer display or HDTV, you could be in for an unpleasant surprise when you slip your new high-definition DVD of Star Wars: Episode III into your Windows Vista PC. Vista, the next version of Windows that's slated to appear in about a year, will feature a new systemwide content protection scheme called PVP-OPM (see box below). If your monitor doesn't work with PVP-OPM, all you'll likely see is either a fuzzy rendition of your high-def flick or Hollywood's version of the Blue Screen of Death--a message warning you that the display has been 'revoked'. ****************************** Finally, as a Linux user what does this means to me? If you are a Linux user will you buy HDTV friendly monitors even if Viewsonic, Sony and other LCD maker won't sell backlight for their LCD Monitors. PS: I'm posting my questions in two groups (Linux & Hardware), since my qestions are related to these groups. Respectfully Thanks in advance |
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On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 21:17:43 -0800, michelebargeman wrote:
Do you guys know any LCD monitors that is user friendly, by that I mean replacing brunt LCD CCFL backlight, and Inverter Board is easy & simple. Are you sure they have backlight? Most LCD monitors use plasma, and I don't think it can be replaced or refilled. http://www.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/p...matv-life.html Finally, should I wait until HD DVD friendly monitors are here? See the link: http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,122738,00.asp Don't worry about it Well, hollywood bought bittorrent though http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/TechNews...319732-ap.html |
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Tony Smith wrote:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 21:17:43 -0800, michelebargeman wrote: Do you guys know any LCD monitors that is user friendly, by that I mean replacing brunt LCD CCFL backlight, and Inverter Board is easy & simple. Are you sure they have backlight? Most LCD monitors use plasma, and I don't think it can be replaced or refilled. Are you serious?! |
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I wouldn't purchase an LCD monitor based on the availability of a CCFL for
it anymore than I would a CRT based on the availability of logic boards for it. The fact is that monitor parts are not typically or widely available through retail channels and display devices are typically designed exclusively to be repaired by trained technicians. A skilled person can, of course, do their own maintenance, in which case the situation is not much different. PVP-OPM doesn't apply. It specifically is a DRM scheme implemented between the OS, video card, and display device. It applies only to vendors colluding with content providers and is limited by the fact that the scheme itself violates the laws of various jurisdictions around the world (so, it will not be possible to enable everywhere). Microsoft promises that their new Vista operating system, for example, will be user-hostile and introduce anti-high-definition features to limit access to content. Regardless, it does not apply in the context of Linux. HD-DVD is a specification for a high-capacity DVD format and is independent of the display device. Namely, you can view HD-DVD content on any display device, but if you want to view the output in the maximum resolution, you'd want a display so capable (for example, to watch 1080p in maximum resolution, you'd want an LCD monitor with a resolution of 1920x1080). That said, 1080p isn't necessarily best viewed in it's native resolution (particularly on a large display) unless the content itself is of exceptionally high quality and very well encoded (otherwise, artifacts are really noticible, as they are on conventional DVDs). The real problems with LCD are related to response time (some are pretty good these days), cost (much higher than CRT), color quality (gamut and fidelity are poor), and resolution (typically lower dpi or extremely expensive). Many have mediocre brightness as well. If you don't care about these things, find the one with the brightest highest resolution display in your price range and meeting your minimum response characteristics (if you play fast-moving video games, a decent LCD will require you to do your homework). wrote: I have been thinking of buying one LCD. I have a very nice monitor, and I love tube monitors. LCD monitors have turned me off because nearly all LCD makers don't want to sell backlight for the LCD, and present LCD won't work with HD-DVD due to "systemwide content protection scheme called PVP-OPM" (see the link below & small summary). Furthermore, companies have it diffcult for anyone to replace LCD backlight. Do you guys know any LCD monitors that is user friendly, by that I mean replacing brunt LCD CCFL backlight, and Inverter Board is easy & simple. Finally, should I wait until HD DVD friendly monitors are here? See the link: http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,122738,00.asp ***************************** Most Monitors Won't Play New HD Video Vista's content protection will block or blur high-def movies on today's displays. Scott Spanbauer From the November 2005 issue of PC World magazine If you dropped a bundle on a high-end computer display or HDTV, you could be in for an unpleasant surprise when you slip your new high-definition DVD of Star Wars: Episode III into your Windows Vista PC. Vista, the next version of Windows that's slated to appear in about a year, will feature a new systemwide content protection scheme called PVP-OPM (see box below). If your monitor doesn't work with PVP-OPM, all you'll likely see is either a fuzzy rendition of your high-def flick or Hollywood's version of the Blue Screen of Death--a message warning you that the display has been 'revoked'. ****************************** Finally, as a Linux user what does this means to me? If you are a Linux user will you buy HDTV friendly monitors even if Viewsonic, Sony and other LCD maker won't sell backlight for their LCD Monitors. PS: I'm posting my questions in two groups (Linux & Hardware), since my qestions are related to these groups. Respectfully Thanks in advance -- Remove '.nospam' from e-mail address to reply by e-mail |
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I was joking of course, but you are right to questioned my statment,
because I should have mentioned it before. Sorry about that |
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James McIninch wrote:
I wouldn't purchase an LCD monitor based on the availability of a CCFL for it anymore than I would a CRT based on the availability of logic boards for it. I understand where you are coming from, however, I have bought CRT monitors and they have lasted five to ten years. According to some manufacturers, these LCD have 25,000 hours of life span, I am assuming 25,000 is not an exaggeration. A typical year has 8760 hours, multiply that with 3 and you get 26,280. That's less then three years! This is why I'm looking at LCD like a desk lamp. I would want to know if I can get a replacement CCFL before I invest any money in LCD. The fact is that monitor parts are not typically or widely available through retail channels and display devices are typically designed exclusively to be repaired by trained technicians. A skilled person can, of course, do their own maintenance, in which case the situation is not much different. According this site Sharp will sell replacement lamp. http://www.lcdtvbuyingguide.com/lcdt...lifetime.shtml "Note: Sharp is currently the only manufacturer that makes LCD displays whose lamps can be changed out. This is definitely something to consider, given that LCD monitors dim as their lightsources do, so being able to replace its lamp will restore your picture to "like new" levels." However, you are right, but I would remind you that same problem exist with scanners. I hope you will understand my point of view, these are not like conventional monitors, and their backlight die very quickly. As I have stated before my CRT monitor is five years old, and it works great. If I buy a LCD monitor, I would want it to last longer then my CRT. Think about it, shouldn't new technology be more reliable and last longer? PVP-OPM doesn't apply. It specifically is a DRM scheme implemented between the OS, video card, and display device. It applies only to vendors colluding with content providers and is limited by the fact that the scheme itself violates the laws of various jurisdictions around the world (so, it will not be possible to enable everywhere). Microsoft promises that their new Vista operating system, for example, will be user-hostile and introduce anti-high-definition features to limit access to content. Regardless, it does not apply in the context of Linux. The thing is that I am going to be taking a computer course in a college, and I will need to duel boot my computer with Windows Vista. This is why I want to make sure If I buy something today it will work with future operating system. I normally use Linux, but now as you can see I will need a system that will work with more then one operating system. Your input is greatly appreciated. Ps: Even though I use Linux, I have decided to wait until Windows Vista is in the market. |
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On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 19:37:29 -0500, James McIninch wrote:
cost (much higher than CRT) difference is getting smaller and smaller, though -- JDS | lid | http://www.newtnotes.com DJMBS | http://newtnotes.com/doctor-jeff-master-brainsurgeon/ |
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LCD Monitors, Should I buy one?
On Tue, 29 Nov 2005 09:36:52 GMT, kony wrote:
I understand where you are coming from, however, I have bought CRT monitors and they have lasted five to ten years. Average is supposedly closer to 4-6 years. Won't that depend on their use, like how long they are on each day? Even going into power saver standby takes a load off the main circuits. Also it depends critically on the make and model. I have a Viewsonic G810 21" graphics CRT monitor that I bought cheap as "refurbished", which means they cleaned the outside. Nevertheless it was made in 1997 so it has seen a lot of use. Do you have your current CRTs running 24/7 to obtain this supposed 5-10 year average? Mine runs 24x7 since I have a UPS but I set power management to put it in standby when not in use. -- "One must realize that the world is a network of real and virtual combat zones where the stakes are high, struggle is the primary mode of being and only total victory is acceptable. -- Sun Tzu, "The Art Of War" |
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