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Old May 3rd 07, 06:38 PM posted to alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati
Frederick J. Barnett
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Default X850 or X1650

Which would be the better card for me to upgrade to? It has to
be one or the other because I'm not buying a new power supply, or
getting an nVidia card. Research with my brother-in-law seems to show
the X850 is better, but I want to ask here too. My system specs below:

Dell Dimension 8400
3Ghz Pentium 4 with hyperthreading
2GB DDR2 RAM
ATI X300 SE 128MB RAM (current card)

Thank you!

Frederick J. Barnett http://www.eatel.net/~fred/
"Someone's got to take the responsibility if the job's going to get done!! Do you think that's easy?!" Gregory Peck - The Guns Of Navarone
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Old May 3rd 07, 08:03 PM posted to alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati
Ken Maltby
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Default X850 or X1650


"Frederick J. Barnett" wrote in message
...
Which would be the better card for me to upgrade to? It has to
be one or the other because I'm not buying a new power supply, or
getting an nVidia card. Research with my brother-in-law seems to show
the X850 is better, but I want to ask here too. My system specs below:

Dell Dimension 8400
3Ghz Pentium 4 with hyperthreading
2GB DDR2 RAM
ATI X300 SE 128MB RAM (current card)

Thank you!

Frederick J. Barnett http://www.eatel.net/~fred/
"Someone's got to take the responsibility if the job's going to get done!!
Do you think that's easy?!" Gregory Peck - The Guns Of Navarone


They are much the same, in overall performance (assuming you are
talking both cards being the same versions, XTs, Pros, whatever.).
The X850 has more brut force power, but the X1650 has some
advanced features (like H.264 acceleration).

http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/05/...is_other_cards

Note how far down the list your current card is, either of the
new cards you are considering will make a major impact.

Luck;
Ken

P.S. I still use a X850XT PE, myself, and an X1650Pro for
my HTPC.


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Old May 3rd 07, 08:38 PM posted to alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati
James
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Default X850 or X1650

On May 3, 3:03 pm, "Ken Maltby" wrote:
"Frederick J. Barnett" wrote in messagenews:[email protected] .com...

Which would be the better card for me to upgrade to? It has to
be one or the other because I'm not buying a new power supply, or
getting an nVidia card. Research with my brother-in-law seems to show
the X850 is better, but I want to ask here too. My system specs below:


Dell Dimension 8400
3Ghz Pentium 4 with hyperthreading
2GB DDR2 RAM
ATI X300 SE 128MB RAM (current card)


Thank you!


Frederick J. Barnett http://www.eatel.net/~fred/
"Someone's got to take the responsibility if the job's going to get done!!
Do you think that's easy?!" Gregory Peck - The Guns Of Navarone


They are much the same, in overall performance (assuming you are
talking both cards being the same versions, XTs, Pros, whatever.).
The X850 has more brut force power, but the X1650 has some
advanced features (like H.264 acceleration).

http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/05/...video_cards_fo...

Note how far down the list your current card is, either of the
new cards you are considering will make a major impact.

Luck;
Ken

P.S. I still use a X850XT PE, myself, and an X1650Pro for
my HTPC.


I have an X1600 XT and an X850XT.

The 850 is definately faster in most current games. The x1650 Pro has
similar or slightly better performance than the x1600XT.

But there are new games on the market that use the 3.0 shader - some
won't run on a 2.0 shader (x850 can't use the 3.0 shader). Any game
with the 3.0 shader will make the performance of the x1650 look much
better.

James

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Old May 3rd 07, 10:43 PM posted to alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati
Frederick J. Barnett
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Default X850 or X1650

On Thu, 3 May 2007 14:03:28 -0500, "Ken Maltby"
wrote:

http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/05/...is_other_cards

That was one of the places we checked before I posted. :-)

Frederick J. Barnett http://www.eatel.net/~fred/
"Someone's got to take the responsibility if the job's going to get done!! Do you think that's easy?!" Gregory Peck - The Guns Of Navarone
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Old May 4th 07, 08:34 AM posted to alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati
Strutter1982
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Default X850 or X1650


"Frederick J. Barnett" wrote in message
...
Which would be the better card for me to upgrade to? It has to
be one or the other because I'm not buying a new power supply, or
getting an nVidia card. Research with my brother-in-law seems to show
the X850 is better, but I want to ask here too. My system specs below:

Dell Dimension 8400
3Ghz Pentium 4 with hyperthreading
2GB DDR2 RAM
ATI X300 SE 128MB RAM (current card)

Thank you!


I've recently upgraded to a HIS 512mb DDR3 X1650 Pro, which is a great card
for my needs, as it plays most newer games at a playable frame rate. My old
system had an X850 SE (If i remember right...), which had similar
performance, but I'd definately choose the x1650 over the x850.

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Old May 4th 07, 07:20 PM posted to alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati
Frederick J. Barnett
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Default X850 or X1650

I need one final clarification before I buy. In some places, the
X1650XT is said to require a 450w power supply, others say 350w. Which
is it?
I have a 350w psu, and as I said, I can't afford to replace it too. Do
I maybe need to go down to a Pro instead of the XT?

Frederick J. Barnett http://www.eatel.net/~fred/
"Someone's got to take the responsibility if the job's going to get done!! Do you think that's easy?!" Gregory Peck - The Guns Of Navarone
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Old May 5th 07, 12:29 AM posted to alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati
Strutter1982
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Default X850 or X1650


"Frederick J. Barnett" wrote in message
...
I need one final clarification before I buy. In some places, the
X1650XT is said to require a 450w power supply, others say 350w. Which
is it?
I have a 350w psu, and as I said, I can't afford to replace it too. Do
I maybe need to go down to a Pro instead of the XT?

Frederick J. Barnett http://www.eatel.net/~fred/


Well I'm not sure, I've only got the cheap 350w psu that came with my case
and it goes alright running the system, which has the RAM, CPU and video
card oc'ed.

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Old May 6th 07, 06:26 PM posted to alt.comp.periphs.videocards.ati
Captain Midnight
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Default X850 or X1650

"Frederick J. Barnett" wrote in message
...
I need one final clarification before I buy. In some places, the
X1650XT is said to require a 450w power supply, others say 350w. Which
is it?
I have a 350w psu, and as I said, I can't afford to replace it too. Do
I maybe need to go down to a Pro instead of the XT?

Frederick J. Barnett http://www.eatel.net/~fred/


Power requirements are determined from the total system usage. So they can
only guess. If you don't have a quality supply it may not put out it's rated
capacity. The calculator below may be helpful.

http://www.jscustompcs.com/power_supply/


 




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