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PCI Soundcard installation
Hi, I`m trying to install a new, cheap "Plug `n Play" PCI Soundcard on an
old Compaq Presario 5015 desktop with an existing ESS Audio chipset built on the Motherboard. There is NO provision for disabling onboard sound in the BIOS, however I can "disable" the sound devices under "Device Manager'. All this does however is leave me without any sound. My problem is, after physically installing the Soundcard in the only remaining free PCI slot (2 total), Windows 98 (not S.E.) does NOT recognize the new hardware as being there upon boot! This is after disabling previous sound devices via "Device manager"!! Is there a jumper or something else to physically disable onboard sound that I am missing, that could prevent the PCI Soundcard from being recognized?? Or is there something else I am missing here? I havent installed hardware on W98 for quite a while now, and am probably spoiled by WinXP. Any ideas or suggestions ? Thanks to anyone who would respond Matt |
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what I'd do is find out the make/model of the card and search the net for a
win98 setup driver for it. I think if you find one, what happens is, you run it, and that lets windows know about the hardware, and then the next time you boot it builds a new driver data base and if its plug and play installs it. |
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In some cases, as long as you have the audio enabled in the bios,
windows won't see anything else. In other cases the PCI ends up in 'other devices' in the Device Manager. If you have any listings in that category remove them. Boot to safe mode and remove all ghost drivers for hardware no longer on the system,, boot it. If at this time it still doesn't see the card.. You are in "Proprietary" hell. "Mattrixx" wrote in message y.com... Hi, I`m trying to install a new, cheap "Plug `n Play" PCI Soundcard on an old Compaq Presario 5015 desktop with an existing ESS Audio chipset built on the Motherboard. There is NO provision for disabling onboard sound in the BIOS, however I can "disable" the sound devices under "Device Manager'. All this does however is leave me without any sound. My problem is, after physically installing the Soundcard in the only remaining free PCI slot (2 total), Windows 98 (not S.E.) does NOT recognize the new hardware as being there upon boot! This is after disabling previous sound devices via "Device manager"!! Is there a jumper or something else to physically disable onboard sound that I am missing, that could prevent the PCI Soundcard from being recognized?? Or is there something else I am missing here? I havent installed hardware on W98 for quite a while now, and am probably spoiled by WinXP. Any ideas or suggestions ? Thanks to anyone who would respond Matt |
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First off thanks for your input regarding my question.
As I stated in my original post, there is NO entry or provision for sound (or the disabling of it) in Compaq`s primitive and meager excuse for a BIOS. Also, I have NO mention of "other devices" in the Device manager. I had to pull the original Rockwell dial-up modem to free up a PCI slot for the Sound Card, but I did do a search in the registry first, and deleted all mention of the modem. I suppose I could do the same with the original ESS sound? I seem to recall somewhere in the dim past some old systems had a jumper on the motherboad to disable/enable onboard items? I tried to get some info on this from Compaq/HP but their site is more confusing than my problem. Matt "JAD" jde wrote in message ... In some cases, as long as you have the audio enabled in the bios, windows won't see anything else. In other cases the PCI ends up in 'other devices' in the Device Manager. If you have any listings in that category remove them. Boot to safe mode and remove all ghost drivers for hardware no longer on the system,, boot it. If at this time it still doesn't see the card.. You are in "Proprietary" hell. "Mattrixx" wrote in message y.com... Hi, I`m trying to install a new, cheap "Plug `n Play" PCI Soundcard on an old Compaq Presario 5015 desktop with an existing ESS Audio chipset built on the Motherboard. There is NO provision for disabling onboard sound in the BIOS, however I can "disable" the sound devices under "Device Manager'. All this does however is leave me without any sound. My problem is, after physically installing the Soundcard in the only remaining free PCI slot (2 total), Windows 98 (not S.E.) does NOT recognize the new hardware as being there upon boot! This is after disabling previous sound devices via "Device manager"!! Is there a jumper or something else to physically disable onboard sound that I am missing, that could prevent the PCI Soundcard from being recognized?? Or is there something else I am missing here? I havent installed hardware on W98 for quite a while now, and am probably spoiled by WinXP. Any ideas or suggestions ? Thanks to anyone who would respond Matt |
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JAD wrote:
In some cases, as long as you have the audio enabled in the bios, windows won't see anything else. In other cases the PCI ends up in 'other devices' in the Device Manager. If you have any listings in that category remove them. Boot to safe mode and remove all ghost drivers for hardware no longer on the system,, boot it. If at this time it still doesn't see the card.. You are in "Proprietary" hell. "Mattrixx" wrote in message y.com... Hi, I`m trying to install a new, cheap "Plug `n Play" PCI Soundcard on an old Compaq Presario 5015 desktop with an existing ESS Audio chipset built on the Motherboard. There is NO provision for disabling onboard sound in the BIOS, however I can "disable" the sound devices under "Device Manager'. All this does however is leave me without any sound. My problem is, after physically installing the Soundcard in the only remaining free PCI slot (2 total), Windows 98 (not S.E.) does NOT recognize the new hardware as being there upon boot! This is after disabling previous sound devices via "Device manager"!! Is there a jumper or something else to physically disable onboard sound that I am missing, that could prevent the PCI Soundcard from being recognized?? Or is there something else I am missing here? I havent installed hardware on W98 for quite a while now, and am probably spoiled by WinXP. Any ideas or suggestions ? Thanks to anyone who would respond Matt Didn't you see the official factory web site to disable the onboard sound card/drivers, and their replacement??? http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/d...name=c00006862 |
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"Patrick" wrote in message m... JAD wrote: In some cases, as long as you have the audio enabled in the bios, windows won't see anything else. In other cases the PCI ends up in 'other devices' in the Device Manager. If you have any listings in that category remove them. Boot to safe mode and remove all ghost drivers for hardware no longer on the system,, boot it. If at this time it still doesn't see the card.. You are in "Proprietary" hell. "Mattrixx" wrote in message y.com... Hi, I`m trying to install a new, cheap "Plug `n Play" PCI Soundcard on an old Compaq Presario 5015 desktop with an existing ESS Audio chipset built on the Motherboard. There is NO provision for disabling onboard sound in the BIOS, however I can "disable" the sound devices under "Device Manager'. All this does however is leave me without any sound. My problem is, after physically installing the Soundcard in the only remaining free PCI slot (2 total), Windows 98 (not S.E.) does NOT recognize the new hardware as being there upon boot! This is after disabling previous sound devices via "Device manager"!! Is there a jumper or something else to physically disable onboard sound that I am missing, that could prevent the PCI Soundcard from being recognized?? Or is there something else I am missing here? I havent installed hardware on W98 for quite a while now, and am probably spoiled by WinXP. Any ideas or suggestions ? Thanks to anyone who would respond Matt Didn't you see the official factory web site to disable the onboard sound card/drivers, and their replacement??? http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/d...name=c00006862 Patrick, Yes, I did see this site and the first thing I did was to REMOVE these devices under "Sound,video and game controlers" in Device Manager, but after rebooting, they are "Found" and re-installed! As I said in my original post there is NO provision in the BIOS to disable the onboard sound which leads me to think there may be a jumper on the board itself ? I can`t seem to find the page (I once found) on the Compaq/HP site that gave all the specs and distinctions between the various Presario 5000 (and 4900?) computers. This page on Compaqs site gave blowups of the various components on the motherboards and the jumpers on them. Could you give me that direct link? I would appreciate it much!! Matt |
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Mattrixx wrote:
"Patrick" wrote in message m... JAD wrote: In some cases, as long as you have the audio enabled in the bios, windows won't see anything else. In other cases the PCI ends up in 'other devices' in the Device Manager. If you have any listings in that category remove them. Boot to safe mode and remove all ghost drivers for hardware no longer on the system,, boot it. If at this time it still doesn't see the card.. You are in "Proprietary" hell. "Mattrixx" wrote in message digy.com... Hi, I`m trying to install a new, cheap "Plug `n Play" PCI Soundcard on an old Compaq Presario 5015 desktop with an existing ESS Audio chipset built on the Motherboard. There is NO provision for disabling onboard sound in the BIOS, however I can "disable" the sound devices under "Device Manager'. All this does however is leave me without any sound. My problem is, after physically installing the Soundcard in the only remaining free PCI slot (2 total), Windows 98 (not S.E.) does NOT recognize the new hardware as being there upon boot! This is after disabling previous sound devices via "Device manager"!! Is there a jumper or something else to physically disable onboard sound that I am missing, that could prevent the PCI Soundcard from being recognized?? Or is there something else I am missing here? I havent installed hardware on W98 for quite a while now, and am probably spoiled by WinXP. Any ideas or suggestions ? Thanks to anyone who would respond Matt Didn't you see the official factory web site to disable the onboard sound card/drivers, and their replacement??? http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/d...name=c00006862 Patrick, Yes, I did see this site and the first thing I did was to REMOVE these devices under "Sound,video and game controlers" in Device Manager, but after rebooting, they are "Found" and re-installed! As I said in my original post there is NO provision in the BIOS to disable the onboard sound which leads me to think there may be a jumper on the board itself ? I can`t seem to find the page (I once found) on the Compaq/HP site that gave all the specs and distinctions between the various Presario 5000 (and 4900?) computers. This page on Compaqs site gave blowups of the various components on the motherboards and the jumpers on them. Could you give me that direct link? I would appreciate it much!! Matt Unfortunately, I could NOT locate the exact photo of the jumper on the board... BUT, you can ask a tech question of the support staff! I seem to recall some directions about jumpers inside of the case of most Compaq computers... so that you can do the work, change the cpu, add memory, or a hard drive... The only Compaq systems I now own are a Deskpro 2000 and a Deskpro 4000. So, I doubt they are similar to the 5015. Also, the bios that is stored on the 250 Mb partition, at the beginning of the hard drive, tends to restore whatever drivers we remove... upon boot, right? Then, searching for sound configuration leads one to this page... http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/d...dlc=en&lang=en and, it does discuss getting rid of a persistant (old/unused) driver... This might also help... http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/d...name=c00004001 But, after all, hang in there, and someone with a 5015 and the original booklets, might answer this thread! |
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I think looking for a jumper on the mb is the way to go, I had a similar
problem on a old pc and that had a jumper setting to disable onboard sound. "Mattrixx" wrote in message y.com... Hi, I`m trying to install a new, cheap "Plug `n Play" PCI Soundcard on an old Compaq Presario 5015 desktop with an existing ESS Audio chipset built on the Motherboard. There is NO provision for disabling onboard sound in the BIOS, however I can "disable" the sound devices under "Device Manager'. All this does however is leave me without any sound. My problem is, after physically installing the Soundcard in the only remaining free PCI slot (2 total), Windows 98 (not S.E.) does NOT recognize the new hardware as being there upon boot! This is after disabling previous sound devices via "Device manager"!! Is there a jumper or something else to physically disable onboard sound that I am missing, that could prevent the PCI Soundcard from being recognized?? Or is there something else I am missing here? I havent installed hardware on W98 for quite a while now, and am probably spoiled by WinXP. Any ideas or suggestions ? Thanks to anyone who would respond Matt |
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Thanks Anthony,
Now if I could only find that damn Compaq/HP page I looked at earlier that displayed the different Preario model motherboard layouts and their components, jumpers and positions!! I go to the Compaq/HP site and go "round and round" missing each time what I once found there. Matt "anthony fidler" wrote in message news:HBptc.74$0e2.70@newsfe4-gui... I think looking for a jumper on the mb is the way to go, I had a similar problem on a old pc and that had a jumper setting to disable onboard sound. "Mattrixx" wrote in message y.com... Hi, I`m trying to install a new, cheap "Plug `n Play" PCI Soundcard on an old Compaq Presario 5015 desktop with an existing ESS Audio chipset built on the Motherboard. There is NO provision for disabling onboard sound in the BIOS, however I can "disable" the sound devices under "Device Manager'. All this does however is leave me without any sound. My problem is, after physically installing the Soundcard in the only remaining free PCI slot (2 total), Windows 98 (not S.E.) does NOT recognize the new hardware as being there upon boot! This is after disabling previous sound devices via "Device manager"!! Is there a jumper or something else to physically disable onboard sound that I am missing, that could prevent the PCI Soundcard from being recognized?? Or is there something else I am missing here? I havent installed hardware on W98 for quite a while now, and am probably spoiled by WinXP. Any ideas or suggestions ? Thanks to anyone who would respond Matt |
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