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compaq proliant 850r /boot troubles
I'm about to setup a Compaq Proliant 850r with the 2 pentiums on board
but am afraid I messed up some settings in the boot settings. When I power the machine up it gives me the message that I've got a serial cable error and I have not the slightest idea how to solve this. I need a way to et into the boot settings again (i.e. where the OS, server/no server and all of those settings) to retore factory defaults. BTW: on what OS this machine runs with the best performance? I'm thinking about NT 4.0 for 2 processors since all later MS is way to heavy. *ux is out of the question since this unit is going to be used in a gymnastics centre and computer knowledge is a rare item with those girls... |
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compaq proliant 850r /boot troubles
No offence peacekeeper, but throw it away.
You are correct, it is dual Pentium, but it's the old 180 or 200 Meg Pentium pro's. If you need a real cheap machine, go to Ebay and you can find Compaq model 800, 1600, or 1850R, that all pentium3. I see the 1850R's all the time for 10 to 25 ish and will have one or dual P3 550's and perhaps dual 600's. If you watch the shipping cost you can get that down to 20 to 40 bucks depending on where each of you are located. Spring for a little more and get an even faster machine, but of the models I listed, 550 or 600 MHz is the best they will do. You will have less trouble all the way around going that route. Where are you located? I am getting ready to take a load to the dump and can give you better machines if you are willing to pay shipping. A thought.. Phil "peacekeeper" wrote in message ups.com... I'm about to setup a Compaq Proliant 850r with the 2 pentiums on board but am afraid I messed up some settings in the boot settings. When I power the machine up it gives me the message that I've got a serial cable error and I have not the slightest idea how to solve this. I need a way to et into the boot settings again (i.e. where the OS, server/no server and all of those settings) to retore factory defaults. BTW: on what OS this machine runs with the best performance? I'm thinking about NT 4.0 for 2 processors since all later MS is way to heavy. *ux is out of the question since this unit is going to be used in a gymnastics centre and computer knowledge is a rare item with those girls... |
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compaq proliant 850r /boot troubles
"Phil" wrote No offence peacekeeper, but throw it away. Hey - that's my line :-) "peacekeeper" wrote in message ups.com... I'm about to setup a Compaq Proliant 850r with the 2 pentiums on board but am afraid I messed up some settings in the boot settings. When I power the machine up it gives me the message that I've got a serial cable error and I have not the slightest idea how to solve this. Last time I saw one if these was 1999. It was old and underspecced even then. I agree with Phil (no surprise there) I think that if you did find out what's wrong, it will turn out to be a systemboard fault. Just to put your mind at rest, create a SmartStart 5.50 CD from the downloadable ISO file, boot to that, and run a HW diagnostics. |
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compaq proliant 850r /boot troubles
"Jez T" wrote in message ... "Phil" wrote No offence peacekeeper, but throw it away. Hey - that's my line :-) "peacekeeper" wrote in message ups.com... I'm about to setup a Compaq Proliant 850r with the 2 pentiums on board but am afraid I messed up some settings in the boot settings. When I power the machine up it gives me the message that I've got a serial cable error and I have not the slightest idea how to solve this. Last time I saw one if these was 1999. It was old and underspecced even then. I agree with Phil (no surprise there) I think that if you did find out what's wrong, it will turn out to be a systemboard fault. Just to put your mind at rest, create a SmartStart 5.50 CD from the downloadable ISO file, boot to that, and run a HW diagnostics. or, do a system erase and start completely fresh .... but yah, that is an old dog. the most modern MS OS you could run on it would be 2000, and thats already almost 7 years old. It would be nice if the OP indicated HOW those gymnists were supposed to use the machine .... something about tights and servers just cant gel in my mind. So, phil is going to make a run to the landfill ... whatcha getting rid of ? - LC |
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compaq proliant 850r /boot troubles
"Nut Cracker" wrote in message t... "Jez T" wrote in message ... "Phil" wrote No offence peacekeeper, but throw it away. Hey - that's my line :-) "peacekeeper" wrote in message ups.com... I'm about to setup a Compaq Proliant 850r with the 2 pentiums on board but am afraid I messed up some settings in the boot settings. When I power the machine up it gives me the message that I've got a serial cable error and I have not the slightest idea how to solve this. Last time I saw one if these was 1999. It was old and underspecced even then. I agree with Phil (no surprise there) I think that if you did find out what's wrong, it will turn out to be a systemboard fault. Just to put your mind at rest, create a SmartStart 5.50 CD from the downloadable ISO file, boot to that, and run a HW diagnostics. or, do a system erase and start completely fresh .... but yah, that is an old dog. the most modern MS OS you could run on it would be 2000, and thats already almost 7 years old. It would be nice if the OP indicated HOW those gymnists were supposed to use the machine .... something about tights and servers just cant gel in my mind. So, phil is going to make a run to the landfill ... whatcha getting rid of ? - LC LC, Remember those photos you looked at for me of the 4 Compaq 7142 racks up in the Chicago area. I bought those racks and equipment primarily for the rack cabinets. You looked at a large Compaq server and said they looked like 5000 's, you were dead on, you know your stuff! Those 5000 "dinosaur's" are going, I think a 3000, some pre UE array enclosures and perhaps more, but it 's "junk". Oh, I get to see what a 6400 looks like up close and personal now, a 6400 was in that lot. I don't need it but thought I would see what I could salvage as spares for the 580's. I know the power supplies are the same, possibly some fans and ram. Looks a lot like the DL580 that I have a bunch of. If I scrap it out I'll give you the motherboard and some other goodies that you might like as spares to your units. A shame I didn't have it when you bought your motherboard! You are welcome to anything I don't keep or need. I also have a stack of 6 or 8 ue enclosures stuffed full of drives that I retired a long time ago. Damn shame I didn't sell them then while you could get something. I'll try them for cheap on Ebay and if they don't move they will be destined for the crusher too. I did manage to get what I hope is enough rails out of them and another lot I bought out of Atlanta. I found it cheaper to buy the racks loaded with stuff than buying empty racks. The only problem was, both the Chicago and Atlanta lots weighed in at some 3 - 1/2 tons. Even with freight on all that, it was still cheaper than buying empty cabinets and freight on only cabinets. Phil |
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compaq proliant 850r /boot troubles
Nut Cracker schreef: or, do a system erase and start completely fresh .... but yah, that is an old dog. the most modern MS OS you could run on it would be 2000, and thats already almost 7 years old. It would be nice if the OP indicated HOW those gymnists were supposed to use the machine .... something about tights and servers just cant gel in my mind. I know it's a prehistoric piece of hardware but that's just the fun part of it all, new machines like one of IBM's latest blades (or a BlueGene) do not give the educational fun. It's just to be used as a file server (mainly .txt and some .doc/xls) for progression books and tournament schedules. Nothing special. Nothing to do with tights at that end. I might decide however to use this one as streamserver for tournaments and "after game shower" excercises lol Just burned a SmartStart 5.50 but after initial startup & processor (2x200Mhz) initalization it stops, claiming "serial cable error detected". This only first occured when I'd change some system settings and now I want to go back to the previous or orginal state. How can I get the HDD's empty bypassing this serial cable trouble? There's nothing to attach, nor ever has been. Lot's of cables though so what to attach in case bypassing is not possible? |
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compaq proliant 850r /boot troubles
"peacekeeper" wrote in message oups.com... Nut Cracker schreef: or, do a system erase and start completely fresh .... but yah, that is an old dog. the most modern MS OS you could run on it would be 2000, and thats already almost 7 years old. It would be nice if the OP indicated HOW those gymnists were supposed to use the machine .... something about tights and servers just cant gel in my mind. I know it's a prehistoric piece of hardware but that's just the fun part of it all, new machines like one of IBM's latest blades (or a BlueGene) do not give the educational fun. It's just to be used as a file server (mainly .txt and some .doc/xls) for progression books and tournament schedules. Nothing special. Nothing to do with tights at that end. I might decide however to use this one as streamserver for tournaments and "after game shower" excercises lol Just burned a SmartStart 5.50 but after initial startup & processor (2x200Mhz) initalization it stops, claiming "serial cable error detected". This only first occured when I'd change some system settings and now I want to go back to the previous or orginal state. How can I get the HDD's empty bypassing this serial cable trouble? There's nothing to attach, nor ever has been. Lot's of cables though so what to attach in case bypassing is not possible? As Jez said, good chance the error you are getting is from a defective main board. Learning is one thing, but what is the advantage of learning something that is so obsolete that it has no revelance or use today. I'm a walking library of old useless information that it is not worth a dime anymore! Start with something that you can at lesst get some use out of, and streaming data on that old thing, forget it. Now that you have found a place to get someone to guide you, consider their time and advice on upgrading before all the time is spend and you wind up with nothing. The bottom has dropped out of these old servers. The only thing a newer P3 will cost you is a little shipping. You still have to learn the process, but at least you can wind up with a machine that you can use. Another note on the real old machines is power consumption. If it stays on 24x7 expect to see your power bill rise between 20 and 35 bucks a month without the monitor on. Phil |
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compaq proliant 850r /boot troubles
You guys convinced me and I'm now setting up an IBM/P2 ThinkCentre to
be used as file server. Nice black design stuff and at least 75% less noise which is worth a wile as well ;-) Might gonna speak with IBM's scrap dept though since a lot of used material (trade in for for brand-new IBM's) is being destroyed in Germany. The Compaq will be donated to the tech musuem here in Amsterdam (NL) as this might be the missing link between the first machines and the current blade servers ;-) Thanks so far for your efforts and comments |
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