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Old April 8th 04, 10:51 PM
Dionaea muscipula
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Default InfoWorld: Global Standards Are Key, Intel CEO Tells Chinese Execs

Sumner Lemon of IDG News Service contributed the report on Intel CEO
Craig Barrett's speech in Shenyang, China, which stresses the
importance of international standards in developing new IT products.

"The fastest way to move into the rapidly growing digital economy is
to adopt standards, which will enable government and businesses to
maximize their investments and obtain industry-leading performance at
lower cost and with greater choice," said Craig. Craig was addressing
some Chinese government officials and business executives.

Currently there is a trade dispute between the U.S. and China over the
implementation of a Chinese wireless local area network (WLAN)
standard. China requires all WLAN equipments sold in the country to
conform to the local standard after June 1, and foreign companies must
license WAPI through coproduction agreements with one of around 20
Chinese companies.

According to this report, which can be read in
http://www.infoworld.com/article/04/...andards_1.html
Intel is not the only WLAN chipset maker which declines to support
China WAPI. Texas Instrument Inc. does not have plans to support it
either.
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Old April 9th 04, 03:04 AM
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(Dionaea muscipula) wrote in message . com...
Sumner Lemon of IDG News Service contributed the report on Intel CEO
Craig Barrett's speech in Shenyang, China, which stresses the
importance of international standards in developing new IT products.

"The fastest way to move into the rapidly growing digital economy is
to adopt standards,


First of all, he didn't say global standard here. Second of all does
corporation's desire for growth and profit trump a nation's
sovereignty? Specifically is China in the right to regulate China's
bandwidth within her own sovereign territory however she sees fit?
Celleular phone is a fitting example here. I know of at least 3
cellular standards in US, and 5+ all around the world. Yet people can
make world phone (Nokia, Motorola for example) that works with them.

If one wishes to argue this way, why not demand the world to drop
their languages and adopt English? How about demand 99% of the world
to abandon the metric system and everyone standardize on english
system?

which will enable government and businesses to
maximize their investments and obtain industry-leading performance at
lower cost and with greater choice," said Craig. Craig was addressing
some Chinese government officials and business executives.

Currently there is a trade dispute between the U.S. and China over the
implementation of a Chinese wireless local area network (WLAN)
standard. China requires all WLAN equipments sold in the country to
conform to the local standard after June 1, and foreign companies must
license WAPI through coproduction agreements with one of around 20
Chinese companies.


WAPI is but another standard to the currently *already* fragmented
WiFi market full of "standards". In addition to WEP, there's WPA
supposedly better, and there are other security protocols you can
choose to use if they make you feel any safer, like LEAP CKIP WAS
WEAS...

Yup, you guessed it, Centrino provides legacy support for them all.
Legacy support is an essential part of product development. Will Intel
threaten to not support new standards when current 11b wireless
standard become obsolete? (Not that it isn't already.)

Another example I can give you is Centrino's legacy support for this
obsolete oddball wireless standard (11a on a different frequency) it
pushed but no one adopted... Gee, sounds familiar?

According to this report, which can be read in
http://www.infoworld.com/article/04/...andards_1.html
Intel is not the only WLAN chipset maker which declines to support
China WAPI. Texas Instrument Inc. does not have plans to support it
either.


Are Intel and TI the only two WLAN chipset maker in the world?
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Old April 9th 04, 07:30 AM
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(charles liu) wrote in message . com...

sci.crypt added as some people discussed China's WAPI there. Since
Charles Liu recycled his useless argument here again, lemme recycle
mine and add some.....

(Dionaea muscipula) wrote in message . com...
Sumner Lemon of IDG News Service contributed the report on Intel CEO
Craig Barrett's speech in Shenyang, China, which stresses the
importance of international standards in developing new IT products.

"The fastest way to move into the rapidly growing digital economy is
to adopt standards,


First of all, he didn't say global standard here.


And he didn't say Chinese, Euro or American standard here.

Second of all does
corporation's desire for growth and profit trump a nation's
sovereignty? Specifically is China in the right to regulate China's
bandwidth within her own sovereign territory however she sees fit?
Celleular phone is a fitting example here. I know of at least 3
cellular standards in US, and 5+ all around the world. Yet people can
make world phone (Nokia, Motorola for example) that works with them.


You bark up the wrong tree again. Intel didn't force China to accept
something by Intel. Intel simply says, you wanna your own standard?
fine with me. I just don't wanna support that standard.

China remains a sovereign country by using whatever WAPI standards she
likes. Intel, Broadcom and TI remain private own companies to make
business decisions to stay away from Chinese market with unfair rules.
Simple. Intel, Broadcom and Texas Instruments are not Chinese
Comunist party state-owned enterprise (SOE) so they do whatever CCP
wanna them to do.

And you again raise cellular phone example here, and I told you that
all the existing cell standards are open to the public. You get the
spec for free or you pay some money, then you design your own hw to
fit the standard. You don't need to share your intellectual property
with your competitor.

Now China's WAPI standard forces foreign companies, if they wanna sell
WLAN products, to work with their Chinese competitors cuz the chinese
communist party classify this WAPI standard as a state secret and
foreign companies can only implement that by working with the Chinese
competitors. That's unfair practice, or protectionism if you like that
term.

So what's next? Cars sold into China are "state secret" and gotta
follow some standards so foreign auto makers have to work with Chinese
companies?

If one wishes to argue this way, why not demand the world to drop
their languages and adopt English? How about demand 99% of the world
to abandon the metric system and everyone standardize on english
system?


Nobody demand the world to switch to English. You're daydreaming to
have an example to support your argument but this is a wrong example.

But it's fine for China to leave 802.11i and use its own standard.
Later chinese businessman will find their notebook computers gotta be
WLAN (wired LAN) when they leave China, hehe, even to visit Hong Kong.
And foreign reporters arrive in Beijing for 2008 summer games and find
their WLAN computers are illegal in China.

which will enable government and businesses to
maximize their investments and obtain industry-leading performance at
lower cost and with greater choice," said Craig. Craig was addressing
some Chinese government officials and business executives.

Currently there is a trade dispute between the U.S. and China over the
implementation of a Chinese wireless local area network (WLAN)
standard. China requires all WLAN equipments sold in the country to
conform to the local standard after June 1, and foreign companies must
license WAPI through coproduction agreements with one of around 20
Chinese companies.


WAPI is but another standard to the currently *already* fragmented
WiFi market full of "standards". In addition to WEP, there's WPA
supposedly better, and there are other security protocols you can
choose to use if they make you feel any safer, like LEAP CKIP WAS
WEAS...


LEAP CKIP WAS WEAS..... hehe, I'm gonna leave these acronyms for
sci.crypt experts to decipher.

China wanna use her own WLAN standard? Fine. Now China has a benefit
for blocking foreign companies away from WLAN market, but soon when
China grows, it realize its diffrent standard also blocks its own
company from going to foreign world and form a "China vs. them" game.
If China wanna another standard, go ahead! :P


Yup, you guessed it, Centrino provides legacy support for them all.
Legacy support is an essential part of product development. Will Intel
threaten to not support new standards when current 11b wireless
standard become obsolete? (Not that it isn't already.)


But these legacy standards don't force Intel to work with her
competitors while China WAPI do. How many times do you need to hear
this to understand it?

Another example I can give you is Centrino's legacy support for this
obsolete oddball wireless standard (11a on a different frequency) it
pushed but no one adopted... Gee, sounds familiar?


These legacy standards don't force Intel to work with her competitors
while China WAPI do. Any question?

According to this report, which can be read in
http://www.infoworld.com/article/04/...andards_1.html
Intel is not the only WLAN chipset maker which declines to support
China WAPI. Texas Instrument Inc. does not have plans to support it
either.


Are Intel and TI the only two WLAN chipset maker in the world?


No. But they follow IEEE specs, and all other WLAN chipset makers
follw IEEE specs. Time for China to form her own Chinese institute of
electrical and electrnic engineers and have a CIEEE standard. :^)
 




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