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which ink is likely to run out first?
Art, I meant to say in my message I sent to you earlier today when I asked
about fading pics, that I use Staples compatible cartridges for all 5 cartridges.I have found the colour to be quite acceptable. They are not all that much cheaper than OEM cartridges, but I can save a few dollars especially if I have to buy 2 or 3 cartridges at a time which happens occasionally if I've printed a lot of photos at a session. I go in binges for photo printing and don't print any for a while. The photos I print are mainly all taken indoors of people usually with flash. Mary "Arthur Entlich" wrote in message news:lhUri.21055$fJ5.7959@pd7urf1no... OK, now that I know the printer model I can comment further. Your printer has 5 cartridges. The large black one is for text and is used exclusively for that purpose. That is a pigment ink The other four cartridges are all dye ink and used for images. They are Cyan, Magenta, Yellow and the smaller of the two Black (dye or photo type). The reason for this is that pigment ink provides a sharper and denser black with plain paper, and may even dry faster. It also is quite fade resistant, and often is waterproof once dry. However, this ink doesn't integrate well with the color dye inks. It sits on the surface of the paper, while dye inks penetrate the paper more. Since the characteristics differ between dye inks and a pigment ink, and particularly black inks which have a lot of pigment in them, they don't merge well and would look odd in an image. Therefore, for anything involving colored inks, your printer will use the dye black ink in that application, but continue to use the pigment black ink in text only applications. The nature of the head and dot size is often also different between dye ink and pigment inks. Art Mary wrote: "Arthur Entlich" wrote in message news:k3jri.17750$rX4.198@pd7urf2no... You didn't mention which printer you are using. That would help in determine what's what. Some printers have one slot for black for which you can either use a larger of smaller black cartridge, and both might be the identical type of ink. Sorry,I should have been more clear. I have a Canon IP 4000. My printer has two black slots. One for a fat black cartridge and one for a thin black cartridge plus 3 colour cartridges - yellow, magenta and cyan. Some printers use all pigment inks both black and color, some use all dye, and no pigment inks. Does your printer use 5 cartridges all installed at once? I don't know what kind of ink they have. All cartridges have to be installed and have ink in them for the printer to work. Mary |
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which ink is likely to run out first?
Hi Mary,
Dye inks, overall, are not as light stable as pigment inks. Canon has been improving their dye ink longevity over the last several years. The Canon OEM inks, while better than many 3rd party are still not shining examples in the industry of long life fade-resistance. This is not to suggest they will fade away indoors in dark keeping. Fluorescent lamps, outdoor natural and halogen bulbs probably provide the most fade-causing UV light. To protect your images, store them in a relatively dry and pollution free area. Ground Ozone and other pollutants including carbon monoxide (from the exhaust of cars) are tough on dye ink prints. Using a swellable polymer paper, if the results look good, will improve the permanence of dye inks, but they are more vulnerable to fingerprints and dampness. Depending upon the ink set, Canon dye inks rate between about 2 years to 25 years. Most current Canon inkset are toward the mid high range. Art Mary wrote: "Arthur Entlich" wrote in message news:lhUri.21055$fJ5.7959@pd7urf1no... OK, now that I know the printer model I can comment further. Your printer has 5 cartridges. The large black one is for text and is used exclusively for that purpose. That is a pigment ink The other four cartridges are all dye ink and used for images. They are Cyan, Magenta, Yellow and the smaller of the two Black (dye or photo type). The reason for this is that pigment ink provides a sharper and denser black with plain paper, and may even dry faster. It also is quite fade resistant, and often is waterproof once dry. Does that mean the photos I sometimes print will fade after a while? how long will they last before fading? I didn't put them in an album but keep them together in a dark area in my closet. I have too many to put in an album and some of them I have printed and sent to family members and friends. I printed them on Kodak double sided, semi gloss paper and they seem to look quite good. I mainly have printed indoor photos of people mostly with flash rather than outside photos. Do indoor photos show fading quicker than outside photos? However, this ink doesn't integrate well with the color dye inks. It sits on the surface of the paper, while dye inks penetrate the paper more. Since the characteristics differ between dye inks and a pigment ink, and particularly black inks which have a lot of pigment in them, they don't merge well and would look odd in an image. Therefore, for anything involving colored inks, your printer will use the dye black ink in that application, but continue to use the pigment black ink in text only applications. The nature of the head and dot size is often also different between dye ink and pigment inks. I like the Canon IP 4000 printer. It prints nicely, but because it uses dye inks, will it print indoor photos that will last for years? Mary Art Mary wrote: "Arthur Entlich" wrote in message news:k3jri.17750$rX4.198@pd7urf2no... You didn't mention which printer you are using. That would help in determine what's what. Some printers have one slot for black for which you can either use a larger of smaller black cartridge, and both might be the identical type of ink. Sorry,I should have been more clear. I have a Canon IP 4000. My printer has two black slots. One for a fat black cartridge and one for a thin black cartridge plus 3 colour cartridges - yellow, magenta and cyan. Some printers use all pigment inks both black and color, some use all dye, and no pigment inks. Does your printer use 5 cartridges all installed at once? I don't know what kind of ink they have. All cartridges have to be installed and have ink in them for the printer to work. Mary |
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which ink is likely to run out first?
Hi Mary,
I honestly have no opinion about Staples ink. I believe Staples bought Korectype and with that, ended up with those inks being used in Staples ink refill cartridges. I am a believer in asking retailers and distributors to answer these types of question from clients. I would ask them how you can find out how fade resistance their inks are relative to OEM or whatever, they may refer you to the company that actually does that filling?. Art Mary wrote: Art, I meant to say in my message I sent to you earlier today when I asked about fading pics, that I use Staples compatible cartridges for all 5 cartridges.I have found the colour to be quite acceptable. They are not all that much cheaper than OEM cartridges, but I can save a few dollars especially if I have to buy 2 or 3 cartridges at a time which happens occasionally if I've printed a lot of photos at a session. I go in binges for photo printing and don't print any for a while. The photos I print are mainly all taken indoors of people usually with flash. Mary "Arthur Entlich" wrote in message news:lhUri.21055$fJ5.7959@pd7urf1no... OK, now that I know the printer model I can comment further. Your printer has 5 cartridges. The large black one is for text and is used exclusively for that purpose. That is a pigment ink The other four cartridges are all dye ink and used for images. They are Cyan, Magenta, Yellow and the smaller of the two Black (dye or photo type). The reason for this is that pigment ink provides a sharper and denser black with plain paper, and may even dry faster. It also is quite fade resistant, and often is waterproof once dry. However, this ink doesn't integrate well with the color dye inks. It sits on the surface of the paper, while dye inks penetrate the paper more. Since the characteristics differ between dye inks and a pigment ink, and particularly black inks which have a lot of pigment in them, they don't merge well and would look odd in an image. Therefore, for anything involving colored inks, your printer will use the dye black ink in that application, but continue to use the pigment black ink in text only applications. The nature of the head and dot size is often also different between dye ink and pigment inks. Art Mary wrote: "Arthur Entlich" wrote in message news:k3jri.17750$rX4.198@pd7urf2no... You didn't mention which printer you are using. That would help in determine what's what. Some printers have one slot for black for which you can either use a larger of smaller black cartridge, and both might be the identical type of ink. Sorry,I should have been more clear. I have a Canon IP 4000. My printer has two black slots. One for a fat black cartridge and one for a thin black cartridge plus 3 colour cartridges - yellow, magenta and cyan. Some printers use all pigment inks both black and color, some use all dye, and no pigment inks. Does your printer use 5 cartridges all installed at once? I don't know what kind of ink they have. All cartridges have to be installed and have ink in them for the printer to work. Mary |
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which ink is likely to run out first?
Arthur Entlich wrote: Hi Mary, I honestly have no opinion about Staples ink. I believe Staples bought Korectype and with that, ended up with those inks being used in Staples ink refill cartridges. I am a believer in asking retailers and distributors to answer these types of question from clients. I would ask them how you can find out how fade resistance their inks are relative to OEM or whatever, they may refer you to the company that actually does that filling?. Now that is a bright answer. Ask a clerk that gets about the minimum wage to answer that type of question when he can barely direct you to a product that is on the shelf and has not been relocated since he was hired. :-( Art Mary wrote: Art, I meant to say in my message I sent to you earlier today when I asked about fading pics, that I use Staples compatible cartridges for all 5 cartridges.I have found the colour to be quite acceptable. They are not all that much cheaper than OEM cartridges, but I can save a few dollars especially if I have to buy 2 or 3 cartridges at a time which happens occasionally if I've printed a lot of photos at a session. I go in binges for photo printing and don't print any for a while. The photos I print are mainly all taken indoors of people usually with flash. Mary "Arthur Entlich" wrote in message news:lhUri.21055$fJ5.7959@pd7urf1no... OK, now that I know the printer model I can comment further. Your printer has 5 cartridges. The large black one is for text and is used exclusively for that purpose. That is a pigment ink The other four cartridges are all dye ink and used for images. They are Cyan, Magenta, Yellow and the smaller of the two Black (dye or photo type). The reason for this is that pigment ink provides a sharper and denser black with plain paper, and may even dry faster. It also is quite fade resistant, and often is waterproof once dry. However, this ink doesn't integrate well with the color dye inks. It sits on the surface of the paper, while dye inks penetrate the paper more. Since the characteristics differ between dye inks and a pigment ink, and particularly black inks which have a lot of pigment in them, they don't merge well and would look odd in an image. Therefore, for anything involving colored inks, your printer will use the dye black ink in that application, but continue to use the pigment black ink in text only applications. The nature of the head and dot size is often also different between dye ink and pigment inks. Art Mary wrote: "Arthur Entlich" wrote in message news:k3jri.17750$rX4.198@pd7urf2no... You didn't mention which printer you are using. That would help in determine what's what. Some printers have one slot for black for which you can either use a larger of smaller black cartridge, and both might be the identical type of ink. Sorry,I should have been more clear. I have a Canon IP 4000. My printer has two black slots. One for a fat black cartridge and one for a thin black cartridge plus 3 colour cartridges - yellow, magenta and cyan. Some printers use all pigment inks both black and color, some use all dye, and no pigment inks. Does your printer use 5 cartridges all installed at once? I don't know what kind of ink they have. All cartridges have to be installed and have ink in them for the printer to work. Mary |
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which ink is likely to run out first?
measekite wrote:
Now that is a bright answer. Ask a clerk that gets about the minimum wage to answer that type of question when he can barely direct you to a product that is on the shelf and has not been relocated since he was hired. :-( heheheh...it's got to be much better answer than any answer from a complete idiot like you! Frank |
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which ink is likely to run out first?
"Arthur Entlich" wrote in message
news:VhEsi.25613$_d2.15864@pd7urf3no... Hi Mary, Dye inks, overall, are not as light stable as pigment inks. Canon has been improving their dye ink longevity over the last several years. The Canon OEM inks, while better than many 3rd party are still not shining examples in the industry of long life fade-resistance. This is not to suggest they will fade away indoors in dark keeping. Fluorescent lamps, outdoor natural and halogen bulbs probably provide the most fade-causing UV light. To protect your images, store them in a relatively dry and pollution free area. Ground Ozone and other pollutants including carbon monoxide (from the exhaust of cars) are tough on dye ink prints. Using a swellable polymer paper, if the results look good, will improve the permanence of dye inks, but they are more vulnerable to fingerprints and dampness. I usually use Kodak double sided semi gloss photo paper which seem to look ok, though its just 7 ml it says on the front of the Kodak package.What company makes swellable polymer paper? I find that Staples are the only place near me in Toronto to buy photo paper and its quite expensive, and they don't seem to have an awful lot of variety. Just basic. They don't even have the double sided semi gloss I like, though they used to stock it but now just have it in their catalog. I got some a couple of weeks ago in Shoppers, though thats all they had in the way of photo paper. They don't usually stock any. I like the semi gloss photo paper I have, but its become hard to find, and I don't think its a regular item in Shoppers. Depending upon the ink set, Canon dye inks rate between about 2 years to 25 years. Most current Canon inkset are toward the mid high range. Would Staples compatible cartridges be similar? Mary Art Mary wrote: "Arthur Entlich" wrote in message news:lhUri.21055$fJ5.7959@pd7urf1no... OK, now that I know the printer model I can comment further. Your printer has 5 cartridges. The large black one is for text and is used exclusively for that purpose. That is a pigment ink The other four cartridges are all dye ink and used for images. They are Cyan, Magenta, Yellow and the smaller of the two Black (dye or photo type). The reason for this is that pigment ink provides a sharper and denser black with plain paper, and may even dry faster. It also is quite fade resistant, and often is waterproof once dry. Does that mean the photos I sometimes print will fade after a while? how long will they last before fading? I didn't put them in an album but keep them together in a dark area in my closet. I have too many to put in an album and some of them I have printed and sent to family members and friends. I printed them on Kodak double sided, semi gloss paper and they seem to look quite good. I mainly have printed indoor photos of people mostly with flash rather than outside photos. Do indoor photos show fading quicker than outside photos? However, this ink doesn't integrate well with the color dye inks. It sits on the surface of the paper, while dye inks penetrate the paper more. Since the characteristics differ between dye inks and a pigment ink, and particularly black inks which have a lot of pigment in them, they don't merge well and would look odd in an image. Therefore, for anything involving colored inks, your printer will use the dye black ink in that application, but continue to use the pigment black ink in text only applications. The nature of the head and dot size is often also different between dye ink and pigment inks. I like the Canon IP 4000 printer. It prints nicely, but because it uses dye inks, will it print indoor photos that will last for years? Mary Art Mary wrote: "Arthur Entlich" wrote in message news:k3jri.17750$rX4.198@pd7urf2no... You didn't mention which printer you are using. That would help in determine what's what. Some printers have one slot for black for which you can either use a larger of smaller black cartridge, and both might be the identical type of ink. Sorry,I should have been more clear. I have a Canon IP 4000. My printer has two black slots. One for a fat black cartridge and one for a thin black cartridge plus 3 colour cartridges - yellow, magenta and cyan. Some printers use all pigment inks both black and color, some use all dye, and no pigment inks. Does your printer use 5 cartridges all installed at once? I don't know what kind of ink they have. All cartridges have to be installed and have ink in them for the printer to work. Mary |
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which ink is likely to run out first?
"Arthur Entlich" wrote in message
news:myEsi.27118$rX4.13306@pd7urf2no... Hi Mary, I honestly have no opinion about Staples ink. I believe Staples bought Korectype and with that, ended up with those inks being used in Staples ink refill cartridges. Is Korectype dye based and any good. I used Staples compatibles a lot with my Canon IP 1500 which I stil use occasionally, and continued with Staples when I got the IP 4000. Ordinary printing is fine, and photo printing seems to be ok and like I said, I mostly print indoor photos with flas of family, relatives, etc.not all that often, but when I do, I print quite a few photos to send to them. I've always thought that digital cameras are much better suited to sending jpgs in the mail, than printing stills though I like my digital camera. I am a believer in asking retailers and distributors to answer these types of question from clients. I would ask them how you can find out how fade resistance their inks are relative to OEM or whatever, they may refer you to the company that actually does that filling?. The only people I see when I go to Staples is the sales clerks, and they wouldn't know anything about that. In fact, in the area of computers, I usually know more than they do. And in the area of inks or photo paper they wouldn't know. They don't get training about inks and I would doubt the Manager would know. Mary Art Mary wrote: Art, I meant to say in my message I sent to you earlier today when I asked about fading pics, that I use Staples compatible cartridges for all 5 cartridges.I have found the colour to be quite acceptable. They are not all that much cheaper than OEM cartridges, but I can save a few dollars especially if I have to buy 2 or 3 cartridges at a time which happens occasionally if I've printed a lot of photos at a session. I go in binges for photo printing and don't print any for a while. The photos I print are mainly all taken indoors of people usually with flash. Mary "Arthur Entlich" wrote in message news:lhUri.21055$fJ5.7959@pd7urf1no... OK, now that I know the printer model I can comment further. Your printer has 5 cartridges. The large black one is for text and is used exclusively for that purpose. That is a pigment ink The other four cartridges are all dye ink and used for images. They are Cyan, Magenta, Yellow and the smaller of the two Black (dye or photo type). The reason for this is that pigment ink provides a sharper and denser black with plain paper, and may even dry faster. It also is quite fade resistant, and often is waterproof once dry. However, this ink doesn't integrate well with the color dye inks. It sits on the surface of the paper, while dye inks penetrate the paper more. Since the characteristics differ between dye inks and a pigment ink, and particularly black inks which have a lot of pigment in them, they don't merge well and would look odd in an image. Therefore, for anything involving colored inks, your printer will use the dye black ink in that application, but continue to use the pigment black ink in text only applications. The nature of the head and dot size is often also different between dye ink and pigment inks. Art Mary wrote: "Arthur Entlich" wrote in message news:k3jri.17750$rX4.198@pd7urf2no... You didn't mention which printer you are using. That would help in determine what's what. Some printers have one slot for black for which you can either use a larger of smaller black cartridge, and both might be the identical type of ink. Sorry,I should have been more clear. I have a Canon IP 4000. My printer has two black slots. One for a fat black cartridge and one for a thin black cartridge plus 3 colour cartridges - yellow, magenta and cyan. Some printers use all pigment inks both black and color, some use all dye, and no pigment inks. Does your printer use 5 cartridges all installed at once? I don't know what kind of ink they have. All cartridges have to be installed and have ink in them for the printer to work. Mary |
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On Fri, 3 Aug 2007 16:50:14 -0400, "Mary" wrote:
"Arthur Entlich" wrote in message news:VhEsi.25613$_d2.15864@pd7urf3no... Hi Mary, Dye inks, overall, are not as light stable as pigment inks. Canon has been improving their dye ink longevity over the last several years. The Canon OEM inks, while better than many 3rd party are still not shining examples in the industry of long life fade-resistance. This is not to suggest they will fade away indoors in dark keeping. Fluorescent lamps, outdoor natural and halogen bulbs probably provide the most fade-causing UV light. To protect your images, store them in a relatively dry and pollution free area. Ground Ozone and other pollutants including carbon monoxide (from the exhaust of cars) are tough on dye ink prints. Using a swellable polymer paper, if the results look good, will improve the permanence of dye inks, but they are more vulnerable to fingerprints and dampness. I usually use Kodak double sided semi gloss photo paper which seem to look ok, though its just 7 ml it says on the front of the Kodak package.What company makes swellable polymer paper? I find that Staples are the only place near me in Toronto to buy photo paper and its quite expensive, and they don't seem to have an awful lot of variety. Just basic. They don't even have the double sided semi gloss I like, though they used to stock it but now just have it in their catalog. I got some a couple of weeks ago in Shoppers, though thats all they had in the way of photo paper. They don't usually stock any. I like the semi gloss photo paper I have, but its become hard to find, and I don't think its a regular item in Shoppers. Depending upon the ink set, Canon dye inks rate between about 2 years to 25 years. Most current Canon inkset are toward the mid high range. Would Staples compatible cartridges be similar? Mary For photo longevity Canon ink is better than any of the other brands that I have tested. I have not tested Staples, but I would be surprised if it is as good as Canon. |
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I have measekite filtered from my newsgroups, so I don't usually get to
read his nonsense unless it it gets quoted. I got tired of cutting him to ribbons, so I guess he feels like he can make these snide comments now that I don't see them or respond. I hope he's getting a lot of joy from it. I'm just glad to be rid of the nuisance. But since I saw this, I'll expand slightly on the matter. When I refer to retailers I am not referring to nor expecting the sales clerks to have the answers to these questions. Retailers usually have email addresses and website and other methods of requesting information regarding their products. This complexity might be well beyond measekite's ability to comprehend, but for most people reading here, I'm sure they fully understood that the information might be beyond that of a sales clerk to answer. Art Jim Robinson wrote: measekite wrote in : Arthur Entlich wrote: Hi Mary, I honestly have no opinion about Staples ink. I believe Staples bought Korectype and with that, ended up with those inks being used in Staples ink refill cartridges. I am a believer in asking retailers and distributors to answer these types of question from clients. I would ask them how you can find out how fade resistance their inks are relative to OEM or whatever, they may refer you to the company that actually does that filling?. Now that is a bright answer. Ask a clerk that gets about the minimum wage to answer that type of question when he can barely direct you to a product that is on the shelf and has not been relocated since he was hired. Art wasn't referring to your own work experience at Staples stocking the shelves. But continue, we learn more and more about your failed jobs. How hard can it be to stock a shelf! JR |
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Kodak has changed their paper technology many times over the last few
years. I have at least three types here, and Ron Baird, from Kodak can probably tell you which types are swellable polymer versus microporous. In general, swellable polymer technology is not waterproof. The ink will soak off the surface with a bit of hot water, because the polymer remains water soluble. To give you a bit more detail: Microporous paper surfaces usually have a ceramic or plastic surface which has microscopic holes which allow the ink to pass through. The surface under it is usually a clay coating called kaolin which is the same material in white porcelain and a mordant which is designed to lock the ink into place in this material. Once the ink is dry, it tends to be set in the lower layer, and the ink remains relatively waterproof. However, since the surface if full of holes, energized ink molecules (from UV light, or other chemical sources) can escape through those holes, and do (thus the ink colors fade). Swellable polymer is a coating of complex long chain tangled molecules. Gelatin, egg white, and some soluble synthetic chemicals all are these types of materials. When the ink hits these materials the liquid makes the polymer swell which opens up some of the tangles and makes space, where the ink colors fits. Then, the coating dries, and locks the colorant into these tangled molecules, sealing them in. The only major problem with this method is that the paper is slower drying and may be vulnerable to damage when it leaves the printer. Even when dry, the surface tends to be softer and more easily damaged mechanically , and finally, it remains water soluble, so dampness and fingerprints may damage it, and the ink may wash out of wet. In general, you can determine a swellable polymer paper by wetting some that is printed (it will ruin the print, so use scrap or a failed image) and see if the surface becomes sticky, or even washes off in the water the ink begins to run. You may be able to tell by wetting a finger and touching a corner of a non-print area and see if it gets quite sticky. If so, it is probably swellable polymer. Art Mary wrote: "Arthur Entlich" wrote in message news:VhEsi.25613$_d2.15864@pd7urf3no... Hi Mary, Dye inks, overall, are not as light stable as pigment inks. Canon has been improving their dye ink longevity over the last several years. The Canon OEM inks, while better than many 3rd party are still not shining examples in the industry of long life fade-resistance. This is not to suggest they will fade away indoors in dark keeping. Fluorescent lamps, outdoor natural and halogen bulbs probably provide the most fade-causing UV light. To protect your images, store them in a relatively dry and pollution free area. Ground Ozone and other pollutants including carbon monoxide (from the exhaust of cars) are tough on dye ink prints. Using a swellable polymer paper, if the results look good, will improve the permanence of dye inks, but they are more vulnerable to fingerprints and dampness. I usually use Kodak double sided semi gloss photo paper which seem to look ok, though its just 7 ml it says on the front of the Kodak package.What company makes swellable polymer paper? I find that Staples are the only place near me in Toronto to buy photo paper and its quite expensive, and they don't seem to have an awful lot of variety. Just basic. They don't even have the double sided semi gloss I like, though they used to stock it but now just have it in their catalog. I got some a couple of weeks ago in Shoppers, though thats all they had in the way of photo paper. They don't usually stock any. I like the semi gloss photo paper I have, but its become hard to find, and I don't think its a regular item in Shoppers. Depending upon the ink set, Canon dye inks rate between about 2 years to 25 years. Most current Canon inkset are toward the mid high range. Would Staples compatible cartridges be similar? Mary Art Mary wrote: "Arthur Entlich" wrote in message news:lhUri.21055$fJ5.7959@pd7urf1no... OK, now that I know the printer model I can comment further. Your printer has 5 cartridges. The large black one is for text and is used exclusively for that purpose. That is a pigment ink The other four cartridges are all dye ink and used for images. They are Cyan, Magenta, Yellow and the smaller of the two Black (dye or photo type). The reason for this is that pigment ink provides a sharper and denser black with plain paper, and may even dry faster. It also is quite fade resistant, and often is waterproof once dry. Does that mean the photos I sometimes print will fade after a while? how long will they last before fading? I didn't put them in an album but keep them together in a dark area in my closet. I have too many to put in an album and some of them I have printed and sent to family members and friends. I printed them on Kodak double sided, semi gloss paper and they seem to look quite good. I mainly have printed indoor photos of people mostly with flash rather than outside photos. Do indoor photos show fading quicker than outside photos? However, this ink doesn't integrate well with the color dye inks. It sits on the surface of the paper, while dye inks penetrate the paper more. Since the characteristics differ between dye inks and a pigment ink, and particularly black inks which have a lot of pigment in them, they don't merge well and would look odd in an image. Therefore, for anything involving colored inks, your printer will use the dye black ink in that application, but continue to use the pigment black ink in text only applications. The nature of the head and dot size is often also different between dye ink and pigment inks. I like the Canon IP 4000 printer. It prints nicely, but because it uses dye inks, will it print indoor photos that will last for years? Mary Art Mary wrote: "Arthur Entlich" wrote in message news:k3jri.17750$rX4.198@pd7urf2no... You didn't mention which printer you are using. That would help in determine what's what. Some printers have one slot for black for which you can either use a larger of smaller black cartridge, and both might be the identical type of ink. Sorry,I should have been more clear. I have a Canon IP 4000. My printer has two black slots. One for a fat black cartridge and one for a thin black cartridge plus 3 colour cartridges - yellow, magenta and cyan. Some printers use all pigment inks both black and color, some use all dye, and no pigment inks. Does your printer use 5 cartridges all installed at once? I don't know what kind of ink they have. All cartridges have to be installed and have ink in them for the printer to work. Mary |
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