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which ink is likely to run out first?
Arthur Entlich ) writes:
I didn't check to see what ink set the Canon MP600 uses, but the ink use depends upon your use. If you will be printing a lot of text, then black is likely to be used up first. However, if you will be printing images, depending on the ink set, the typical use is as such: In six color printers, the light (photo) magenta and light (photo) cyan will be first, followed by yellow, magenta and cyan. If it is a 4 color model, then yellow, magenta, and then cyan. The cyan and magenta usually run out about the same time, and it depends upon your use. If it has two black, pigment and photo black, the pigment black gets used for text, the other black for photo or color work. It usually lasts the longest. Art Thank you. I was wondering about photo black. Brendan Brendan R. Wehrung wrote: I've got a fairly new Canon MP600 for which I will eventually have to buy ink. Office Depot sent me a coupon that might be useful ($10 off $25 or more on ink) but I have to project which ink tanks are going to need replacement first. My guess is large black...followed by which colors? Nothing is running low enough yet to judge. Brendan |
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which ink is likely to run out first?
"Burt" ) writes:
"Brendan R. Wehrung" wrote in message ... I've got a fairly new Canon MP600 for which I will eventually have to buy ink. Office Depot sent me a coupon that might be useful ($10 off $25 or more on ink) but I have to project which ink tanks are going to need replacement first. My guess is large black...followed by which colors? Nothing is running low enough yet to judge. Brendan Having read all the responses up to now, I can say that it depends entirely on what you print most. If it is plain paper text based printing you will be replacing the large black pigment-based cart. Even if you only print black, plain paper, text based pages, however, the cleaning cycles that the printer runs automatically will also eventually deplete the color carts as well. I was wondering about that. Since Canon seems to recommend leaving the printer off until needed, I turn it on when I want to print or make a copy. When powered it talks to itself once in a while (mechanical noises) which suggests a cleaning cycle. Is this always true or can the noises mean something else. Isn't there also an issue of clenaing pads with Canons, or is the Epson? Brendan If you print lots of photos the usual first cart to run out is yellow (depending on what you are printing.) Most of the discount coupons you receive from Office Depot or the other big box office supply stores are for their own store brand of ink. There are very few aftermarket carts available for these newer Canon printers that have chipped carts. These carts are refillable and there are some internet-based vendors with good inks especially formulated for these printers. If you are so inclined to refill them you can find out about the few good inks and vendors on this ng and on the Nifty-stuff forum. Pay no attention to Measekite who tries to dissuade people from considering aftermarket inks. He has no experience with them but responds with the old, tired, biased statements that others with experience with these products can personally refute. The best solution to your question is to buy a complete extra set of carts. You will then have the one that runs out regardless of which one it is. I always have at least one spare of each color on hand. This also gives you the opportunity to refill the carts as they become empty and have them on standby. BETTER YET, if you see an ip4300 on an exceptional sale - something under $100, you will pay little more than the cost of the ink carts it comes with (it uses the same carts as your mP600) and you will then have a spare printhead (the same in both printers) for you mp600 and/or an extra printer on hand in case yours fails! |
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which ink is likely to run out first?
"Brendan R. Wehrung" wrote in message
... "Burt" ) writes: "Brendan R. Wehrung" wrote in message ... I've got a fairly new Canon MP600 for which I will eventually have to buy ink. Office Depot sent me a coupon that might be useful ($10 off $25 or more on ink) but I have to project which ink tanks are going to need replacement first. My guess is large black...followed by which colors? Nothing is running low enough yet to judge. Brendan Having read all the responses up to now, I can say that it depends entirely on what you print most. If it is plain paper text based printing you will be replacing the large black pigment-based cart. Even if you only print black, plain paper, text based pages, however, the cleaning cycles that the printer runs automatically will also eventually deplete the color carts as well. I was wondering about that. Since Canon seems to recommend leaving the printer off until needed, I turn it on when I want to print or make a copy. When powered it talks to itself once in a while (mechanical noises) which suggests a cleaning cycle. Is this always true or can the noises mean something else. Isn't there also an issue of clenaing pads with Canons, or is the Epson? Brendan (snip) The printer firmware schedules cleaning cycles based on how much you print and on the time the printer is idle. The cleaning cycles are done with a vacuum pump that pulls ink out of the carts and through the nozzles to keep the nozzles from clogging with dried ink. The ink that is vacuumed out goes into a waste pad inside the bottom of the printer. Canon and Epson printers both have waste ink pads. Then the printer determines that the waste ink "tank" is full it signals you to get the printer serviced. The service charge is high compared to the value of the printer at that time. You can look up the codes for most of these printers online and reset the counter to zero. This lets you continue to print. The warning signal is set to a very conservative level, and I've read that resetting a Canon once doesn't cause problems with liquid ink overflowing out of the base of the printer. Some have even done so twice with no problems. |
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which ink is likely to run out first?
"Barry Watzman" wrote in message
... Personally, on my HP printer, I'm using both Cyan and Magenta more rapidly than yellow. But it literally depends on what you print. It also depends on the particular printer and the inks, and how the dye loads and print modes were set. I know of one study a decade ago where empty tri-color cartridges returned from customers were analyzed to determine the amount of remaining ink in each chamber. Surprisingly the distribution was bimodal - about half ran out of yellow first, the other half had run out of cyan first. Magenta was generally the second color to run out whether cyan or yellow ran out first. My assumption at the time (not backed up by further research) was that it probably was very dependant on what was being printed - sky tones use mostly cyan and magenta, flesh tones use more magenta and yellow. Regards, Bob Headrick, MS MVP Printing/Imaging |
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which ink is likely to run out first?
Which printer are you using? Do you print much skies?
Flowers and foliage use a lot of yellow, since yellows, oranges, reds, and greens all use a lot of yellow, and if you tend to shoot a lot in early morning or later evening, your color balance will be even more biased to yellow. Art Jim Ford wrote: Brendan R. Wehrung wrote: I've got a fairly new Canon MP600 for which I will eventually have to buy ink. Office Depot sent me a coupon that might be useful ($10 off $25 or more on ink) but I have to project which ink tanks are going to need replacement first. My guess is large black...followed by which colors? I fitted a CIS to my printer about 2 months ago. I've noticed the yellow is going down the fastest, closely followed by light magenta, then light cyan, then cyan and magenta. Black is the last. I print mainly wild flowers and landscapes. Jim Ford |
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which ink is likely to run out first?
You didn't mention which printer you are using. That would help in
determine what's what. Some printers have one slot for black for which you can either use a larger of smaller black cartridge, and both might be the identical type of ink. Some printers use all pigment inks both black and color, some use all dye, and no pigment inks. Does your printer use 5 cartridges all installed at once? Art Mary wrote: "Arthur Entlich" wrote in message news:dkWqi.13465$_d2.1393@pd7urf3no... I didn't check to see what ink set the Canon MP600 uses, but the ink use depends upon your use. If you will be printing a lot of text, then black is likely to be used up first. However, if you will be printing images, depending on the ink set, the typical use is as such: In six color printers, the light (photo) magenta and light (photo) cyan will be first, followed by yellow, magenta and cyan. If it is a 4 color model, then yellow, magenta, and then cyan. The cyan and magenta usually run out about the same time, and it depends upon your use. If it has two black, pigment and photo black, the pigment black gets used for text, the other black for photo or color work. It usually lasts the longest. I have a 4 colour model and in general, I have found the above to be true. I have two black - (one fat and one thin cartridge). Most times, the colour runs out first even though I use colour and black about equal times. Can you tell me, is my fat black cartridge for photo or text? Mary |
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which ink is likely to run out first?
Mary wrote:
I have a 4 colour model and in general, I have found the above to be true. I have two black - (one fat and one thin cartridge). Most times, the colour runs out first even though I use colour and black about equal times. Can you tell me, is my fat black cartridge for photo or text? Mary Sounds like a Canon. Large black is pigmented and for text. Smaller blk is a dye based ink for photo printing. Mickey |
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which ink is likely to run out first?
"Arthur Entlich" wrote in message
news:k3jri.17750$rX4.198@pd7urf2no... You didn't mention which printer you are using. That would help in determine what's what. Some printers have one slot for black for which you can either use a larger of smaller black cartridge, and both might be the identical type of ink. Sorry,I should have been more clear. I have a Canon IP 4000. My printer has two black slots. One for a fat black cartridge and one for a thin black cartridge plus 3 colour cartridges - yellow, magenta and cyan. Some printers use all pigment inks both black and color, some use all dye, and no pigment inks. Does your printer use 5 cartridges all installed at once? I don't know what kind of ink they have. All cartridges have to be installed and have ink in them for the printer to work. Mary Art Mary wrote: "Arthur Entlich" wrote in message news:dkWqi.13465$_d2.1393@pd7urf3no... I didn't check to see what ink set the Canon MP600 uses, but the ink use depends upon your use. If you will be printing a lot of text, then black is likely to be used up first. However, if you will be printing images, depending on the ink set, the typical use is as such: In six color printers, the light (photo) magenta and light (photo) cyan will be first, followed by yellow, magenta and cyan. If it is a 4 color model, then yellow, magenta, and then cyan. The cyan and magenta usually run out about the same time, and it depends upon your use. If it has two black, pigment and photo black, the pigment black gets used for text, the other black for photo or color work. It usually lasts the longest. I have a 4 colour model and in general, I have found the above to be true. I have two black - (one fat and one thin cartridge). Most times, the colour runs out first even though I use colour and black about equal times. Can you tell me, is my fat black cartridge for photo or text? Mary |
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which ink is likely to run out first?
measekite wrote:
The ink that is likely to run out first is the ink you use the most. Wow, that's pretty deep insight from measekite! Jim Ford |
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