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Sound problems (CMedia 9761 and VIA VT8235 chipsets)
ound problems (CMedia 9761 and VIA VT8235 chipsets)
I have a BioStar M7VIZ mobo with built-in CMedia 9761 sound chip and a VIA 8235 south bridge that also handles sound, but I haven't been able to get the sound to work in Windows 98SE. When I try the music test in the DirectX diagnostics, they say, "Music Port activation failed because no sound driver found", and the Multimedia button in the Control Panel shows no playback or recording devices and doesn't allow any to be selected. I tried installing both the CMedia 9761 driver and the VIA VT8235 sound driver, individually and together (both orders). I also booted into Safe Mode to remove all sound entries and have also tried deactivating the sound hardware in the BIOS before installing the drivers. The sound chip definitely works partially because the CMedia driver won't install with the chip deactivated in the BIOS. I realize that I can simply use a plug-in sound card, but I want to know how to fix this problem because long ago the same thing happened with a plug-in card. |
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On 18 Jul 2005 02:10:39 -0700, "larry moe 'n curly"
wrote: ound problems (CMedia 9761 and VIA VT8235 chipsets) I have a BioStar M7VIZ mobo with built-in CMedia 9761 sound chip and a VIA 8235 south bridge that also handles sound, but I haven't been able to get the sound to work in Windows 98SE. When I try the music test in the DirectX diagnostics, they say, "Music Port activation failed because no sound driver found", and the Multimedia button in the Control Panel shows no playback or recording devices and doesn't allow any to be selected. I tried installing both the CMedia 9761 driver and the VIA VT8235 sound driver, individually and together (both orders). I also booted into Safe Mode to remove all sound entries and have also tried deactivating the sound hardware in the BIOS before installing the drivers. The sound chip definitely works partially because the CMedia driver won't install with the chip deactivated in the BIOS. I realize that I can simply use a plug-in sound card, but I want to know how to fix this problem because long ago the same thing happened with a plug-in card. Do you have the related PNP software enumerated registry entries? The following reg file will readd them if not, though it shouldn't hurt to add the reg file either way, http://69.36.189.159/usr_1034/Win98_WDM_Sound.reg There's also a win98(SE?) patch or two relating to sound. Don't recall the specifics but hold on and I'll see what I have on it. ...... .... There's this: "Windows Driver Model Audio Update for Windows 98 Second Edition KB242937 file: 242937US.EXE I thought there was at least one other WDM Win98(SE?) sound related patch but at the moment I'm not seeing one, IF another exists. |
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kony wrote: On 18 Jul 2005 02:10:39 -0700, "larry moe 'n curly" Do you have the related PNP software enumerated registry entries? The following reg file will readd them if not, though it shouldn't hurt to add the reg file either way, http://69.36.189.159/usr_1034/Win98_WDM_Sound.reg There's also a win98(SE?) patch or two relating to sound. Don't recall the specifics but hold on and I'll see what I have on it. There's this: "Windows Driver Model Audio Update for Windows 98 Second Edition KB242937 file: 242937US.EXE I thought there was at least one other WDM Win98(SE?) sound related patch but at the moment I'm not seeing one, IF another exists. Thanks, Kony. You're great as always. I'll look into them. |
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I finally got the sound to work by reinstalling Windows 98SE -- twice.
I think that the BIOS design is flakey because if either "Plug & Play OS" or "Reset Configuration Data" was enabled, then the sound wouldn't work on the next reboot, and a yellow check mark would usually appear next to the DMA entry in the Device Manager list. I couldn't get another mobo containing the same VT8235 south bridge (but different-Media sound CODEC chip) to act up like this. |
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larry moe 'n curly wrote:
I finally got the sound to work by reinstalling Windows 98SE -- twice. I think that the BIOS design is flakey because if either "Plug & Play OS" or "Reset Configuration Data" was enabled, then the sound wouldn't work on the next reboot, and a yellow check mark would usually appear next to the DMA entry in the Device Manager list. I couldn't get another mobo containing the same VT8235 south bridge (but different-Media sound CODEC chip) to act up like this. Well, those two are the right ones to aggravate the problem. "Plug & Play OS" tells the BIOS to not bother assigning IRQs and addresses to I/O devices, that the OS will do so when it gets around to it. Problem is, that means there's no assignment during startup and while it's not supposed to be a problem it can be sometimes. And then switching it back and forth can cause devices to appear in different places although, again, the OS is supposed to figure that out. "Reset Configuration Data" says to throw away any IRQ and address assignments the BIOS has made and start over again. Which means they could change. So you may have been repeatedly bouncing around where the I/O devices live confusing the OS. Although, it's supposed to figure that out. On the other hand, it's not a good idea to make it as difficult as possible. |
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David Maynard wrote: On the other hand, it's not a good idea to make it as difficult as possible. It's as if you had a hidden camera watching me work! Another bug I noticed with this BioStar BIOS is that if I enable network booting and that boot fails, the mobo will lock so hard that even the reset button will be ignored. The CMOS battery jumper has to be disconnected to get the mobo to work again. |
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On 21 Jul 2005 14:09:32 -0700, "larry moe 'n curly"
wrote: David Maynard wrote: On the other hand, it's not a good idea to make it as difficult as possible. It's as if you had a hidden camera watching me work! Another bug I noticed with this BioStar BIOS is that if I enable network booting and that boot fails, the mobo will lock so hard that even the reset button will be ignored. The CMOS battery jumper has to be disconnected to get the mobo to work again. Did I overlook it or have you not mentioned updating the bios yet? Oddly their webpage, http://www.biostar-usa.com/mbdownloads.asp?model=M7VIZ shows only some of the bios they've released. I know nothing about (specifics for) that board bios so I just throw the FTP URL out there- to use as you will. ftp://ftp.biostar-usa.com/bios/M7VIZ/ |
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larry moe 'n curly wrote:
David Maynard wrote: On the other hand, it's not a good idea to make it as difficult as possible. It's as if you had a hidden camera watching me work! Another bug I noticed with this BioStar BIOS is that if I enable network booting and that boot fails, the mobo will lock so hard that even the reset button will be ignored. The CMOS battery jumper has to be disconnected to get the mobo to work again. Well, I'd have to see it myself but people often think a computer is 'locked solid' with network problems because they (the computer) try multiple times and the timeouts are rather large on each one. |
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