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Old October 9th 15, 02:51 AM posted to comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
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Default Best format for USB flash drives nowadays?

Let's ask comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage newsgroup as well. I'd assume
exFAT can do it, but not sure if non-computer devices can. I know all
can do FAT32.


Jamie Kahn Genet wrote:
exFAT to hold 4GB+ files and for faster read/writes (so I'm told -
right?)?


What is the status of exFAT support nowadays for the main OSes?


Would all WinXP systems have exFAT support installed via normal system
updates, or is it still optional and thus hit and miss as to whether
it's available?


What about Linux? BSD Unix? Last I checked a few years ago, *unix exFAT
support seemed patchy.


How about for TVs, Android devices, etc?


Is it still the case that only more recent versions of OS X choose the
right block size when formatting with exFAT, to ensure crossplatform
compatibility? IIRC Snow Leopard got this wrong (technically adhering to
the published specs, but weirdly MS doesn't fully support their own
specs).


Or should I just stick with FAT32 as I rarely encounter very large
files, anyway?


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Old October 9th 15, 03:16 AM posted to comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
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I would never use FAT 32 as it falls apart from crashes in a way NTFS
usually doesn't. I would use NTFS.

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Old October 9th 15, 05:31 AM posted to comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
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Ed Light wrote:

I would never use FAT 32 as it falls apart from crashes in a way NTFS
usually doesn't. I would use NTFS.


But NTFS write support is patchy across OS X versions, IME, so I steered
clear of it and till now used FAT32 for crossplatform flash media.

I just tried formatting a new 64GB USB 2.0 keychain drive (1) as FAT32
and then exFAT, and sure enough read/write was improved with exFAT :-)

(1) The nifty Kingston Datatraveler SE9 which is tiny - though not the
smallest Datatraveler model nowadays, extremely durable with it's one
piece metal case, and lacks the easier IMO to damage USB 3 contacts.

I had my earlier and now too small 16GB model survive on my keychain for
two years, where it was battered by keys, the contents of my pockets,
and rained on several times. I expect I will pass it on to a family
member who can make use of it.
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Old October 9th 15, 02:41 PM posted to comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
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On 2015-10-08 22:16, Ed Light wrote:
I would never use FAT 32 as it falls apart from crashes in a way NTFS
usually doesn't. I would use NTFS.


For interoperability it's best to use FAT32. I've never had any issue
with FAT32 at all in 20 years or so that it's been around (that's an
awful lot of machines and disks and flash drives.

Macs don't write NTFS w/o 3rd party drivers. One I tried was not very
good and was very slow when a "large" job had to be done.

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Old October 9th 15, 06:09 PM posted to comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
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On 2015-10-09 12:01, Lewis wrote:
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Alan Browne wrote:
On 2015-10-08 22:16, Ed Light wrote:
I would never use FAT 32 as it falls apart from crashes in a way NTFS
usually doesn't. I would use NTFS.


For interoperability it's best to use FAT32. I've never had any issue
with FAT32 at all in 20 years or so that it's been around (that's an
awful lot of machines and disks and flash drives.


Then you have very limited needs. FAT32 doesn't support files over 4GB.


I have a lot of needs, just no needs for Windows files larger than 4GB.

Where FAT32 is concerned most of my flash cards are formatted in camera
(FAT32) and files there are about 32 MB. No need for anything larger.

My USB thumb drives over 32GB are formatted exFAT.


My large USB keys are formatted for Mac. No need for anything else. YMMV.

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Old October 9th 15, 08:14 PM posted to comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
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On 2015-10-09 14:29, JF Mezei wrote:
On 2015-10-09 13:09, Alan Browne wrote:

Where FAT32 is concerned most of my flash cards are formatted in camera
(FAT32) and files there are about 32 MB. No need for anything larger.


Consider a HD movie that might be 6 to 8 gigs. Sometimes easier way to
transfer it is via USB.


Consider that I have USB keys formatted for Mac, not Windows. As was
stated in the prior post (the part you snipped out).

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Old October 10th 15, 01:14 AM posted to comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
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On 10/9/2015 6:41 AM, Alan Browne wrote:

For interoperability it's best to use FAT32. I've never had any issue
with FAT32 at all in 20 years or so that it's been around


I based my post on my Windows 98 experience. It would crash often, and
you'd almost always find errors on the FAT 32 when running chkdisk.

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Old October 10th 15, 02:45 PM posted to comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
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On 2015-10-09 20:14, Ed Light wrote:
On 10/9/2015 6:41 AM, Alan Browne wrote:

For interoperability it's best to use FAT32. I've never had any issue
with FAT32 at all in 20 years or so that it's been around


I based my post on my Windows 98 experience. It would crash often, and
you'd almost always find errors on the FAT 32 when running chkdisk.


Win98. Right. Yep. That's something to base opinion on. Sure.

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Old October 10th 15, 03:26 PM posted to comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
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Ed Light wrote:

On 10/9/2015 6:41 AM, Alan Browne wrote:

For interoperability it's best to use FAT32. I've never had any issue
with FAT32 at all in 20 years or so that it's been around


I based my post on my Windows 98 experience. It would crash often, and
you'd almost always find errors on the FAT 32 when running chkdisk.


I hadn't found an error when checking my previous USB flash drive, and
it was on my keychain getting battered around and rained on for a couple
years.
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Old October 10th 15, 10:47 PM posted to comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage
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On Fri, 9 Oct 2015 14:29:43 -0400, JF Mezei
wrote:

On 2015-10-09 13:09, Alan Browne wrote:

Where FAT32 is concerned most of my flash cards are formatted in camera
(FAT32) and files there are about 32 MB. No need for anything larger.


Consider a HD movie that might be 6 to 8 gigs. Sometimes easier way to
transfer it is via USB.

Or you make a .ZIp backup of a collection of photos that exceeds 4GB
onto a .ZIP. The .ZIP file is greater than 4 gigs.


I think almost if not all zip utilities allow you to divide
the zip into 4GB portions.
Or just use exFAT.
I think the original question was about OS compatibility.
Linux, Mac and Windows support exFAT.
I read something about journaling not working well on flash
cards, which would probably exclude NTFS, and all the Unix extXs from
the OP's choice.
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