(WinBlows) Ha ha, Vista's just an OSX ripoff

Peter Bjørn Perlsø wrote:
Rockboy wrote:

Peter Bjørn Perlsø wrote:
Chris H. of Portland, OR wrote:

"DB" wrote in message
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In article , yttrx
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Nothing at microsoft is really new, they copy EVERYTHING.
Let's sum up the arguments, shall we?

MAC: "There's ample documentation to prove that much of the Windows
interface has been copied from the Mac OS, for decades."

WINDOWS: "Oh yeah? Well... well... well... YOU SUCK, DUDE!"
And for 90% of average computer users, no one cares.

Windows is just fine for me. I guess I'm not 1337.
Well, if you're not connected to a WAN and only do Office document
editing, sure, Windows is fine.
What if I want to do real CAD work and play a wide variety of games?

http://www.parallels.com/

Yes, clearly a virtual machine is the best way to run graphics and
processor intensive applications.

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Rockboy

I don't need your love to disconnect

Liam Slider wrote:
On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 20:30:17 +0000, Rockboy wrote:

Peter Bjørn Perlsø wrote:
Chris H. of Portland, OR wrote:

"DB" wrote in message
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In article , yttrx
wrote:

Nothing at microsoft is really new, they copy EVERYTHING.
Let's sum up the arguments, shall we?

MAC: "There's ample documentation to prove that much of the Windows
interface has been copied from the Mac OS, for decades."

WINDOWS: "Oh yeah? Well... well... well... YOU SUCK, DUDE!"
And for 90% of average computer users, no one cares.

Windows is just fine for me. I guess I'm not 1337.
Well, if you're not connected to a WAN and only do Office document
editing, sure, Windows is fine.
What if I want to do real CAD work and play a wide variety of games?

Run Linux on it. :-P

That makes even less sense than a Mac.

--
Rockboy

I don't need your love to disconnect

Tom Scales wrote:

So in other words, to do the real work requires booting your Mac (notice the
proper upper/lower case) into Windows

Parallels is nice piece of work but if I'm going to work in Windows, I
want work in Windows.

Bob

"Tom Scales" wrote in message
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"George Graves" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Tom Scales" wrote:

"Michelle Steiner" wrote in message
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"Tom Scales" wrote:


Like Apple has ever had an original idea?

Just ask Xerox

but apple didn't "copy" anything from xerox -- so you need to keep
that
in mind.

How about the ENTIRE Mac?

That's just bull****. I worked at Xerox PARC and I've used the Alto
system that Jobs was shown on his tour. I also subsequently have used
the Lisa the Xerox Star system, and I owned one of the early Macs. The
Mac and the Xerox Alto have almost NOTHING in common. They both used a
keyboard and a mouse, yes, but there, the resemblance stops. Later Alto
systems used geometric symbols to represent files only, but applications
had to be launched by picking the app name from a list, originally, one
could pick either the application or the file name from a text list
using the mouse but applications had to be launched first before
existing files in that application could be opened. Applications were
listed as "application name here.RUN."Later, you could go to the edge
of a screen and open a file by clicking on the icon. I don't remember
what was what, but different kinds of files used different icon shapes,
and the creator had to associate those shapes with the file being
created. In other words, it worked NOTHING like the Mac.

Xerox came out with something called the Star computer in the early
Eighties after Xerox developers saw the Lisa after a visit to Apple. A
Company for which I worked at the time bought one for its technical
publications department. I played with it extensively. It wasn't just
primitive compared to the original Mac, it was primitive compared to the
Lisa!

So get the idea that the Mac was a rip-off of the Xerox Alto or Star
system completely out of your mind, because you're wrong.

--
George Graves

Whatever. You continue arguing with yourself. The rest of us know the
truth

George like to tell stories. Keep in mind that none of his stories are true.

I just wanted a computer.
not a lifetime culr membership

Bob Levine wrote:
Tom Scales wrote:

So in other words, to do the real work requires booting your Mac
(notice the proper upper/lower case) into Windows

Parallels is nice piece of work but if I'm going to work in Windows, I
want work in Windows.

This sentence needs the word "work" in it more.

--
Rockboy

I don't need your love to disconnect

Liam Slider wrote:

what if I'm on a DSL and all I do is download porn and troll usenet?

Considering the amount of viruses and trojans that porn sites try to load
onto Windows computers...definitely not a good idea.

Newsflash!

There are simple tools to make this a non issue.
I am using a Mac now but up until a couple of
months ago all my web browsing was on an XP
laptop, and I actually made it a point to
intentionally click on "bad" things to let them
try and do what they could. I used Firefox with
scripting disabled by default, had Symantec
Anti-Virus, Windows Defender, and had Windows
Automatic Updates enabled.

Steve

In article
, Lord
Hatred wrote:

You're confusing the words "innovate" with "invent".

POINT!

On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 22:53:44 +0000, Steve de Mena wrote:

Liam Slider wrote:

what if I'm on a DSL and all I do is download porn and troll usenet?

Considering the amount of viruses and trojans that porn sites try to load
onto Windows computers...definitely not a good idea.

Newsflash!

There are simple tools to make this a non issue.
I am using a Mac now but up until a couple of
months ago all my web browsing was on an XP
laptop, and I actually made it a point to
intentionally click on "bad" things to let them
try and do what they could. I used Firefox with
scripting disabled by default, had Symantec
Anti-Virus, Windows Defender, and had Windows
Automatic Updates enabled.

Steve



Didn't you notice what a pain in the ass all those various "protection"
tools were, especially the hogging of system resources? I certainly
noticed when I had XP on *this* laptop. Total pain in the ass...almost
rather get the damn viruses.

On Sat, 02 Dec 2006 22:27:49 +0000, Tom Scales wrote:

"yttrx" wrote in message
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In comp.os.linux.advocacy Tom Scales wrote:

"Kurt Ullman" wrote in message
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In article hFlch.3058$H22.2368@trndny09, Bob Levine
wrote:

Jim Lee Jr. wrote:

In article ,
"Tom Scales" wrote:



You mean all that work I do in Photoshop to print to my Epson 7600
to print
24"x36" prints really didn't happen? My use of the PC as my
'tivo' (where
PCs clearly excel compared to Macs) didn't happen?

They're just tools folks. There are good PCs. There are good
Macs. Almost
everything can be done on either platform these days.

Tom


Name us one Mac virus in the wild.

That has got to be one of the most tired arguments around. Find
something else. The subject is using them as tools.

Tell me one thing you can do on a Mac that can't be done on Windows.

.. or vice versa... (note that it was CAN"T do).

OK.

Show me a 10 tuner -- 5 OTA HD and 5 Cable SD system using a Mac. A
Mac that costs less that $800.

I do it with an older PC machine.

Oh, must have client software that also allows me to stream to 5 HDTVs
in my
house concurrently.

While recording.

From one SATA drive.


You are not doing that on an 800 dollar windows box, period.




-----yttrx


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Uh, yes, I am. I should have clarified, that doesn't include the
capture cards. They clearly add to the cost.


Sure, bet you forgot to include the hard drives too. And the cabling,
networking, and all the other stuff. And forgot to include software cost
too I bet, because I'm seriously doubting the existence of decent Free
Software available for Windows that'll do that. So, $800 was a serious
exaggeration yes? How much was the real cost of your system?