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Old August 22nd 03, 06:53 PM
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Hey all,

I'm hoping to solicit opinions on a variety of possible upgrade scenarios,
or whether an upgrade is even really worth it...

Currently, I have the following gaming rig:
-XP1700+ (JIUHB) oc'd to 2.05 gHz (2400+) (11.0 x 185 FSB)
-Thermaltake Volcano 7 with the sensor modded for continuous max fan speed
- Abit NF7-S v1.0 and the latest bios
- 1 x 512meg of Crucial PC2700 (rather decent mem for the price -- does
192FSB max, very stable at 185 mHz)
- Antec SX635 mini-tower with 350W true power and 2 antec 80mm case fans
- Radeon 9600 Pro vid card

Now here's my dilemma: I recently received a p4 2.8B Dell workstation for
my desk at work, and am delighted at how **quiet** this box is! I'm happy
with the performance of my Athlon rig at home, but I never really realized
how noisy it was until I got the P4.

In my quest for cyber-quietness, these are the options I am contemplating:

1) Change the Volcano 7 heatsink and case fans to a quieter heatsink/fan
combo and two Vantec Stealth fans. The problem here is that because of the
rather extreme overclock of the 1700, I would need some fairly capable
cooling, and it seems that "quietness" and "performance" are mutually
exclusive when it comes to CPU cooling. I've been checking out the reviews
on the "Zalman CNPS 6000cu" flower cooler, but I'm not sure it will fit into
the Antec minitower. Can anybody comment on this sink and fan, or perhaps
suggest a combo that would be significantly quieter than the Volcano 7?

2) Upgrade to a Barton 2500 or 2800 to get the same/comparable CPU
performance without any significant FSB overclocking. This would allow my
choice of cooler to be less critical...any suggestions here?

3) Scrap the AMD setup entirely and get a comparable P4 (say, a 2400C or
2600C) with its presumably quieter "stock" cooler. It appears that
somewhere around the 2800 Barton the price of a P4 becomes very competitive.
If I drop the cash for a higher end Barton, I might as well get a comparable
P4 , no? The problem here is that I would have to dump the PC2700 DDR for
some higher end PC3200 or PC3500 that will accomadate the 200mHz FSB for
either a Barton OC or p4. This option could get pricey, I think...

4) Suck it up and get earplugs.

Your input would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks in adnce,
Brogan




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Old August 22nd 03, 07:23 PM
Frank Hagan
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wrote in message
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Hey all,

I'm hoping to solicit opinions on a variety of possible upgrade scenarios,
or whether an upgrade is even really worth it...

Currently, I have the following gaming rig:
-XP1700+ (JIUHB) oc'd to 2.05 gHz (2400+) (11.0 x 185 FSB)
-Thermaltake Volcano 7 with the sensor modded for continuous max fan speed
- Abit NF7-S v1.0 and the latest bios
- 1 x 512meg of Crucial PC2700 (rather decent mem for the price -- does
192FSB max, very stable at 185 mHz)
- Antec SX635 mini-tower with 350W true power and 2 antec 80mm case fans
- Radeon 9600 Pro vid card

Now here's my dilemma: I recently received a p4 2.8B Dell workstation for
my desk at work, and am delighted at how **quiet** this box is! I'm happy
with the performance of my Athlon rig at home, but I never really realized
how noisy it was until I got the P4.

In my quest for cyber-quietness, these are the options I am contemplating:

1) Change the Volcano 7 heatsink and case fans to a quieter heatsink/fan
combo and two Vantec Stealth fans. The problem here is that because of

the
rather extreme overclock of the 1700, I would need some fairly capable
cooling, and it seems that "quietness" and "performance" are mutually
exclusive when it comes to CPU cooling. I've been checking out the

reviews
on the "Zalman CNPS 6000cu" flower cooler, but I'm not sure it will fit

into
the Antec minitower. Can anybody comment on this sink and fan, or perhaps
suggest a combo that would be significantly quieter than the Volcano 7?

2) Upgrade to a Barton 2500 or 2800 to get the same/comparable CPU
performance without any significant FSB overclocking. This would allow my
choice of cooler to be less critical...any suggestions here?

3) Scrap the AMD setup entirely and get a comparable P4 (say, a 2400C or
2600C) with its presumably quieter "stock" cooler. It appears that
somewhere around the 2800 Barton the price of a P4 becomes very

competitive.
If I drop the cash for a higher end Barton, I might as well get a

comparable
P4 , no? The problem here is that I would have to dump the PC2700 DDR for
some higher end PC3200 or PC3500 that will accomadate the 200mHz FSB for
either a Barton OC or p4. This option could get pricey, I think...

4) Suck it up and get earplugs.

Your input would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks in adnce,
Brogan


LOL! The winner is #4. Best price/performance ratio!!!

FRH


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Old August 22nd 03, 09:33 PM
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On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 12:53:37 -0500, wrote:

Hey all,

I'm hoping to solicit opinions on a variety of possible upgrade scenarios,
or whether an upgrade is even really worth it...

Currently, I have the following gaming rig:
-XP1700+ (JIUHB) oc'd to 2.05 gHz (2400+) (11.0 x 185 FSB)
-Thermaltake Volcano 7 with the sensor modded for continuous max fan speed
- Abit NF7-S v1.0 and the latest bios
- 1 x 512meg of Crucial PC2700 (rather decent mem for the price -- does
192FSB max, very stable at 185 mHz)
- Antec SX635 mini-tower with 350W true power and 2 antec 80mm case fans
- Radeon 9600 Pro vid card

Now here's my dilemma: I recently received a p4 2.8B Dell workstation for
my desk at work, and am delighted at how **quiet** this box is! I'm happy
with the performance of my Athlon rig at home, but I never really realized
how noisy it was until I got the P4.

In my quest for cyber-quietness, these are the options I am contemplating:

1) Change the Volcano 7 heatsink and case fans to a quieter heatsink/fan
combo and two Vantec Stealth fans. The problem here is that because of the
rather extreme overclock of the 1700, I would need some fairly capable
cooling, and it seems that "quietness" and "performance" are mutually
exclusive when it comes to CPU cooling. I've been checking out the reviews
on the "Zalman CNPS 6000cu" flower cooler, but I'm not sure it will fit into
the Antec minitower. Can anybody comment on this sink and fan, or perhaps
suggest a combo that would be significantly quieter than the Volcano 7?

2) Upgrade to a Barton 2500 or 2800 to get the same/comparable CPU
performance without any significant FSB overclocking. This would allow my
choice of cooler to be less critical...any suggestions here?

3) Scrap the AMD setup entirely and get a comparable P4 (say, a 2400C or
2600C) with its presumably quieter "stock" cooler. It appears that
somewhere around the 2800 Barton the price of a P4 becomes very competitive.
If I drop the cash for a higher end Barton, I might as well get a comparable
P4 , no? The problem here is that I would have to dump the PC2700 DDR for
some higher end PC3200 or PC3500 that will accomadate the 200mHz FSB for
either a Barton OC or p4. This option could get pricey, I think...

4) Suck it up and get earplugs.

Your input would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks in adnce,
Brogan



You know something !
I have had volcano hsf in the past they were the worst noisemakers out of all of them
They cooled great ! But the noise OMG that fan screams
I changed the fans on mine to a regular fan using the same screw pattern. Then I got a
Vantec Aeroflow Now it's cool enough and quiet enough
1700 @ 2.22 ghz, 202 fsb




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Old August 22nd 03, 09:34 PM
Tod
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"4) Suck it up and get earplugs".

Put some kind of walling between you and your computer.

wrote in message
...
Hey all,

I'm hoping to solicit opinions on a variety of possible upgrade scenarios,
or whether an upgrade is even really worth it...

Currently, I have the following gaming rig:
-XP1700+ (JIUHB) oc'd to 2.05 gHz (2400+) (11.0 x 185 FSB)
-Thermaltake Volcano 7 with the sensor modded for continuous max fan speed
- Abit NF7-S v1.0 and the latest bios
- 1 x 512meg of Crucial PC2700 (rather decent mem for the price -- does
192FSB max, very stable at 185 mHz)
- Antec SX635 mini-tower with 350W true power and 2 antec 80mm case fans
- Radeon 9600 Pro vid card

Now here's my dilemma: I recently received a p4 2.8B Dell workstation for
my desk at work, and am delighted at how **quiet** this box is! I'm happy
with the performance of my Athlon rig at home, but I never really realized
how noisy it was until I got the P4.

In my quest for cyber-quietness, these are the options I am contemplating:

1) Change the Volcano 7 heatsink and case fans to a quieter heatsink/fan
combo and two Vantec Stealth fans. The problem here is that because of

the
rather extreme overclock of the 1700, I would need some fairly capable
cooling, and it seems that "quietness" and "performance" are mutually
exclusive when it comes to CPU cooling. I've been checking out the

reviews
on the "Zalman CNPS 6000cu" flower cooler, but I'm not sure it will fit

into
the Antec minitower. Can anybody comment on this sink and fan, or perhaps
suggest a combo that would be significantly quieter than the Volcano 7?

2) Upgrade to a Barton 2500 or 2800 to get the same/comparable CPU
performance without any significant FSB overclocking. This would allow my
choice of cooler to be less critical...any suggestions here?

3) Scrap the AMD setup entirely and get a comparable P4 (say, a 2400C or
2600C) with its presumably quieter "stock" cooler. It appears that
somewhere around the 2800 Barton the price of a P4 becomes very

competitive.
If I drop the cash for a higher end Barton, I might as well get a

comparable
P4 , no? The problem here is that I would have to dump the PC2700 DDR for
some higher end PC3200 or PC3500 that will accomadate the 200mHz FSB for
either a Barton OC or p4. This option could get pricey, I think...

4) Suck it up and get earplugs.

Your input would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks in adnce,
Brogan






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Old August 23rd 03, 02:01 AM
LBJGH
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replace your hsf with a thermalright SLK800a and a 80mm stealth...

wrote in message
...
Hey all,

I'm hoping to solicit opinions on a variety of possible upgrade scenarios,
or whether an upgrade is even really worth it...

Currently, I have the following gaming rig:
-XP1700+ (JIUHB) oc'd to 2.05 gHz (2400+) (11.0 x 185 FSB)
-Thermaltake Volcano 7 with the sensor modded for continuous max fan speed
- Abit NF7-S v1.0 and the latest bios
- 1 x 512meg of Crucial PC2700 (rather decent mem for the price -- does
192FSB max, very stable at 185 mHz)
- Antec SX635 mini-tower with 350W true power and 2 antec 80mm case fans
- Radeon 9600 Pro vid card

Now here's my dilemma: I recently received a p4 2.8B Dell workstation for
my desk at work, and am delighted at how **quiet** this box is! I'm happy
with the performance of my Athlon rig at home, but I never really realized
how noisy it was until I got the P4.

In my quest for cyber-quietness, these are the options I am contemplating:

1) Change the Volcano 7 heatsink and case fans to a quieter heatsink/fan
combo and two Vantec Stealth fans. The problem here is that because of

the
rather extreme overclock of the 1700, I would need some fairly capable
cooling, and it seems that "quietness" and "performance" are mutually
exclusive when it comes to CPU cooling. I've been checking out the

reviews
on the "Zalman CNPS 6000cu" flower cooler, but I'm not sure it will fit

into
the Antec minitower. Can anybody comment on this sink and fan, or perhaps
suggest a combo that would be significantly quieter than the Volcano 7?

2) Upgrade to a Barton 2500 or 2800 to get the same/comparable CPU
performance without any significant FSB overclocking. This would allow my
choice of cooler to be less critical...any suggestions here?

3) Scrap the AMD setup entirely and get a comparable P4 (say, a 2400C or
2600C) with its presumably quieter "stock" cooler. It appears that
somewhere around the 2800 Barton the price of a P4 becomes very

competitive.
If I drop the cash for a higher end Barton, I might as well get a

comparable
P4 , no? The problem here is that I would have to dump the PC2700 DDR for
some higher end PC3200 or PC3500 that will accomadate the 200mHz FSB for
either a Barton OC or p4. This option could get pricey, I think...

4) Suck it up and get earplugs.

Your input would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks in adnce,
Brogan






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Old August 23rd 03, 09:49 PM
Supertimer
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wrote:

Now here's my dilemma: I recently received a p4 2.8B Dell workstation for
my desk at work, and am delighted at how **quiet** this box is! I'm happy
with the performance of my Athlon rig at home, but I never really realized
how noisy it was until I got the P4.


It is not that the Athlon has to be more noisy. The reason
the P4 is quiter is because it is a Dell. I have always
built my own computers but the other day I was browsing
through Office Depot and was amazed at how quite the
Athlon XP2400+ Compaq system they had was. The
Compaq system uses components that we would use to
build our own system, namely an nForce2 board to start
with. But it was SO quite.

I have come to the conclusion that it is easy to build a
computer but difficult to build one quite. THAT's what
you are buying with the extra money for a name brand
pre-built.
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Old August 24th 03, 02:18 PM
Brogan
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Thanks for your suggestions, guys...
Regarding the SLK800 with Vantec fan: is that an 80mm stealth fan attached
to the heatsink with screws at each corner? Or is there an actual vantec
heatsink fan (if so, haven't seen it advertised...) This sounds like a good
solution...I've also seen the GlobalWin CAK4-88T in a few reviews, and is
supposed to be both quiet and good cooling for overclockers...
In any event, it looks like I can certainly keep my rig intact...



"The TweakOholic" wrote in message
able.rogers.com...
That's exactly what I was going to suggest. I have an SLK800 with Vantec
Stealth fans and a Thermaltake Silent PurePower PS. Nice an

quite.....mouse
and keyboard is louder then the sound comming from my system. =o)

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"LBJGH" wrote in message
ble.rogers.com...
replace your hsf with a thermalright SLK800a and a 80mm stealth...

wrote in message
...
Hey all,

I'm hoping to solicit opinions on a variety of possible upgrade

scenarios,
or whether an upgrade is even really worth it...

Currently, I have the following gaming rig:
-XP1700+ (JIUHB) oc'd to 2.05 gHz (2400+) (11.0 x 185 FSB)
-Thermaltake Volcano 7 with the sensor modded for continuous max fan

speed
- Abit NF7-S v1.0 and the latest bios
- 1 x 512meg of Crucial PC2700 (rather decent mem for the price --

does
192FSB max, very stable at 185 mHz)
- Antec SX635 mini-tower with 350W true power and 2 antec 80mm case

fans
- Radeon 9600 Pro vid card

Now here's my dilemma: I recently received a p4 2.8B Dell workstation

for
my desk at work, and am delighted at how **quiet** this box is! I'm

happy
with the performance of my Athlon rig at home, but I never really

realized
how noisy it was until I got the P4.

In my quest for cyber-quietness, these are the options I am

contemplating:

1) Change the Volcano 7 heatsink and case fans to a quieter

heatsink/fan
combo and two Vantec Stealth fans. The problem here is that because

of
the
rather extreme overclock of the 1700, I would need some fairly

capable
cooling, and it seems that "quietness" and "performance" are mutually
exclusive when it comes to CPU cooling. I've been checking out the

reviews
on the "Zalman CNPS 6000cu" flower cooler, but I'm not sure it will

fit
into
the Antec minitower. Can anybody comment on this sink and fan, or

perhaps
suggest a combo that would be significantly quieter than the Volcano

7?

2) Upgrade to a Barton 2500 or 2800 to get the same/comparable CPU
performance without any significant FSB overclocking. This would

allow
my
choice of cooler to be less critical...any suggestions here?

3) Scrap the AMD setup entirely and get a comparable P4 (say, a 2400C

or
2600C) with its presumably quieter "stock" cooler. It appears that
somewhere around the 2800 Barton the price of a P4 becomes very

competitive.
If I drop the cash for a higher end Barton, I might as well get a

comparable
P4 , no? The problem here is that I would have to dump the PC2700 DDR

for
some higher end PC3200 or PC3500 that will accomadate the 200mHz FSB

for
either a Barton OC or p4. This option could get pricey, I think...

4) Suck it up and get earplugs.

Your input would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks in adnce,
Brogan






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