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Wont boot on clone machine blinking cursor only
Ben Myerswrote:
What? Either I do not understand what is stated here, or ???? What is "Compaq locked"? Please explain this unique phrase. "You can't even get Compaq drivers to work if the component isn't in a Compaq." The Compaq drivers are little more than repackaged commodity drivers. I beg to differ, have you ever downloaded a Compaq driver from their web site? for something as silly as a modem card, then tried to install that driver on a separate machine? It ain't gonna happen. They don't even come as drivers, they come as "ComPacks." I've tried this numerious times, in the time frame you mention and much later; and have never had success. This is obviously a Compaq custom bios question more then anything else. Try it, try it today. Take a component out of a Compaq, put it in your computer, go to the Compaq site and see if you can get the driver for it to work. It'll say; "this Compaq (whatever) can only be installed on a Compaq computer. Good Luck... So, you're out a modem card that you paid for! Forget the computer it came in. It's just like Windows itself. The drivers are only at the Compaq site or in the Compaq restore CD; which naturally, won't install on anything other then the exact machine it came off of. I found a Toshiba Laptop, that broke and Toshiba fixed, that wouldn't accept it's restore disk; because Toshiba fixed it with something probably better, but was not on that disk. This is quite common, where have you been? You have to go to the original vendors site and hope. That's if you can figure out who the vendor is. That's Compaq locked. That's Proprietary and that's why you don't want to buy a store bought computer period! I don't care what it is... The average consumer is much better served by their local white box shop. They have the highest customer satasfaction ratings for a reason. You get all your disks, you have no crap to weed out, and you have someone right down the street who built it. Like Duh??? And, a totally compatable computer to whatever you want to do with it. |
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Wont boot on clone machine blinking cursor only
Well, in the last couple of years I've sold a stack of Compaq computers, Pentium
3 or Pentium 4. Most of them came to me with a bare hard drive and a Windows 2000 or Windows XP sticker. I set them up exactly the way I set up any computer from scratch. I load the operating system for which there is a sticker, then find drivers for them. Now you ask where did I find the drivers? NOT on the Compaq web site. I have been in the computer biz long enough that I can examine a motherboard or add-in card and determine which chipset(s) is on it. Then I go to the chipset manufacturer's web site and download the drivers, which I then install. For motherboards in business computers (NOT Presarios), Compaq uses Intel chipsets almost exclusively (Intel 810, 810e, 815, 845 etc). Most, but not all, graphics are ATI. Compaq motherboards or Compaq-branded network cards use Intel Ethernet chips (82557, 82558 or 82559). The sound chip varies with the age of the computer, but it is always a mainstream audio chip. Compaq uses modems with various chips, but, once again, drivers are easy to find. Based on the above scenario, you can understand why I claim that no Compaq hardware is "Compaq locked" or anything of the sort. Instead, Compaq sets up many of its Softpaqs so they are keyed to a Compaq identifier in the motherboard BIOS. The not-so-special Compaq hardware can be used in any compatible computer as long as one knows where to find the generic drivers for the hardware. Are we clear on the concept now???? ... Ben Myers On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 18:31:46 GMT, lid (dannysdailys) wrote: Ben Myerswrote: What? Either I do not understand what is stated here, or ???? What is "Compaq locked"? Please explain this unique phrase. "You can't even get Compaq drivers to work if the component isn't in a Compaq." The Compaq drivers are little more than repackaged commodity drivers. I beg to differ, have you ever downloaded a Compaq driver from their web site? for something as silly as a modem card, then tried to install that driver on a separate machine? It ain't gonna happen. They don't even come as drivers, they come as "ComPacks." I've tried this numerious times, in the time frame you mention and much later; and have never had success. This is obviously a Compaq custom bios question more then anything else. Try it, try it today. Take a component out of a Compaq, put it in your computer, go to the Compaq site and see if you can get the driver for it to work. It'll say; "this Compaq (whatever) can only be installed on a Compaq computer. Good Luck... So, you're out a modem card that you paid for! Forget the computer it came in. It's just like Windows itself. The drivers are only at the Compaq site or in the Compaq restore CD; which naturally, won't install on anything other then the exact machine it came off of. I found a Toshiba Laptop, that broke and Toshiba fixed, that wouldn't accept it's restore disk; because Toshiba fixed it with something probably better, but was not on that disk. This is quite common, where have you been? You have to go to the original vendors site and hope. That's if you can figure out who the vendor is. That's Compaq locked. That's Proprietary and that's why you don't want to buy a store bought computer period! I don't care what it is... The average consumer is much better served by their local white box shop. They have the highest customer satasfaction ratings for a reason. You get all your disks, you have no crap to weed out, and you have someone right down the street who built it. Like Duh??? And, a totally compatable computer to whatever you want to do with it. |
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Wont boot on clone machine blinking cursor only
But I will state without reservation that Compaq SoftPaqs suck! Why? The
dumbass SoftPaq number does not give you a clue as to what is inside. Dumb, dumb, dumber. The Softpaq files have various ways of unpacking themselves, no overall consistency. The command line options to override the default unpacking (as in Windows Desktop! or current folder) are damned obscure. But it's all water over the dam now, and HPaq ain't gonna fix'em. This tirade is prompted by three downloads of audio SoftPaqs to install the right drivers in a Compaq iPaq desktop PC. FOUR (count 'em) four downloads are available when you search for the drivers for the model, but which one works? Aha, good question. If the stinking little iPaq wasn't so damned difficult to take apart, I would have done my usual trick of looking for the audio chip on the motherboard. Oh, well. The client is at least paying for my work to set up the thing again. .... Ben Myers On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 18:31:46 GMT, lid (dannysdailys) wrote: Ben Myerswrote: What? Either I do not understand what is stated here, or ???? What is "Compaq locked"? Please explain this unique phrase. "You can't even get Compaq drivers to work if the component isn't in a Compaq." The Compaq drivers are little more than repackaged commodity drivers. I beg to differ, have you ever downloaded a Compaq driver from their web site? for something as silly as a modem card, then tried to install that driver on a separate machine? It ain't gonna happen. They don't even come as drivers, they come as "ComPacks." I've tried this numerious times, in the time frame you mention and much later; and have never had success. This is obviously a Compaq custom bios question more then anything else. Try it, try it today. Take a component out of a Compaq, put it in your computer, go to the Compaq site and see if you can get the driver for it to work. It'll say; "this Compaq (whatever) can only be installed on a Compaq computer. Good Luck... So, you're out a modem card that you paid for! Forget the computer it came in. It's just like Windows itself. The drivers are only at the Compaq site or in the Compaq restore CD; which naturally, won't install on anything other then the exact machine it came off of. I found a Toshiba Laptop, that broke and Toshiba fixed, that wouldn't accept it's restore disk; because Toshiba fixed it with something probably better, but was not on that disk. This is quite common, where have you been? You have to go to the original vendors site and hope. That's if you can figure out who the vendor is. That's Compaq locked. That's Proprietary and that's why you don't want to buy a store bought computer period! I don't care what it is... The average consumer is much better served by their local white box shop. They have the highest customer satasfaction ratings for a reason. You get all your disks, you have no crap to weed out, and you have someone right down the street who built it. Like Duh??? And, a totally compatable computer to whatever you want to do with it. |
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