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Disappointing results from Hobbicolors.....need advice in printer setting.
I finally found somebody who actually took my advise and purchased the
Hobbicolor ink. The results were disappointing. However, I need help with some advice as in printer setting that maybe I don't know about. The main problem appears to be people with black hair. Most of the pictures that came out, the person appeared to have grey hair. (BTW - I don't mean to put down Hobbicolors. Actually the whole process of refilling was very easy. No leaks, no spills, and just very simple. The person told me that Hobbicolors has excellent customer service and they seem very professional. The person even recommends Hobbicolors to other because of the money saved compared to OEM. This letter is just seeking OEM results.) This is how the test was done..... The test was done on a Canon i960, 6 color photo printer and OEM Canon 4x6 paper. The test compared the Canon OEM ink (installed colors included:BCI-6 BK,C,M,Y,PC, and PM) vs. 6 virgin cartridge that were filled with ink from Hobbicolors. Steps done in performing test. 1. Printed 3 pictures with Canon OEM ink on Canon OEM paper. 2. Changed all 6 inks cartridges with Hobbicolors virgin filled ink cartridges. 3. Ran cleaning mode, printed 2 test pages, printed 1 extra photo that was not used in this test. 4. Printed 3 pictures with after-market ink on Canon OEM paper. I showed the pictures to two people. I first showed the after-market ink pictures. They thought the pictures were good quality. Then I showed the OEM ink picture to them to compare. They thought the OEM ink was excellent quality and there was an obvious difference. The best example I could give would be similar to a person who watched television on a top-of-the line Sony television without HDTV and said the picture is great. Then the same person watches HDTV on a Plasma for the first time and decides that his Sony television sucks. I know people on www.nifty-stuff.com are claiming OEM results. Am I doing something wrong? Can somebody please offer suggestions as in setting the printer to get the OEM results. Stan |
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Disappointing results from Hobbicolors.....need advice in printersetting.
measekite wrote:
wrote: I finally found somebody who actually took my advise and purchased the Hobbicolor ink. The results were disappointing. That means the posters that rave about them must be either lying or have some association with it. However, I need help with some advice as in printer setting that maybe I don't know about. The main problem appears to be people with black hair. Most of the pictures that came out, the person appeared to have grey hair. If they are selling old ink then that can explain it. Senior ink produces Senior Citizens. (BTW - I don't mean to put down Hobbicolors. Actually the whole process of refilling was very easy. No leaks, no spills, and just very simple. The person told me that Hobbicolors has excellent customer service and they seem very professional. The person even recommends Hobbicolors to other because of the money saved compared to OEM. This letter is just seeking OEM results.) This is how the test was done..... The test was done on a Canon i960, 6 color photo printer and OEM Canon 4x6 paper. The test compared the Canon OEM ink (installed colors included:BCI-6 BK,C,M,Y,PC, and PM) vs. 6 virgin cartridge that were filled with ink from Hobbicolors. Steps done in performing test. 1. Printed 3 pictures with Canon OEM ink on Canon OEM paper. 2. Changed all 6 inks cartridges with Hobbicolors virgin filled ink cartridges. 3. Ran cleaning mode, printed 2 test pages, printed 1 extra photo that was not used in this test. 4. Printed 3 pictures with after-market ink on Canon OEM paper. I showed the pictures to two people. I first showed the after-market ink pictures. They thought the pictures were good quality. Then I showed the OEM ink picture to them to compare. They thought the OEM ink was excellent quality and there was an obvious difference. Of course and the OEM photos will last much longer without fading. The best example I could give would be similar to a person who watched television on a top-of-the line Sony television without HDTV and said the picture is great. Then the same person watches HDTV on a Plasma for the first time and decides that his Sony television sucks. You got it. I know people on www.nifty-stuff.com are claiming OEM results. Those are a cult and remember the there is a difference between actuality and a claim Am I doing something wrong? You did things the right way. So get rid of the inferior ink and use OEM Canon ink. Can somebody please offer suggestions as in setting the printer to get the OEM results. Stan hehehehe...talking to yourself again? Frank |
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Disappointing results from Hobbicolors.....need advice in printersetting.
Frank wrote:
measekite wrote: wrote: I finally found somebody who actually took my advise and purchased the Hobbicolor ink. The results were disappointing. That means the posters that rave about them must be either lying or have some association with it. However, I need help with some advice as in printer setting that maybe I don't know about. The main problem appears to be people with black hair. Most of the pictures that came out, the person appeared to have grey hair. If they are selling old ink then that can explain it. Senior ink produces Senior Citizens. (BTW - I don't mean to put down Hobbicolors. Actually the whole process of refilling was very easy. No leaks, no spills, and just very simple. The person told me that Hobbicolors has excellent customer service and they seem very professional. The person even recommends Hobbicolors to other because of the money saved compared to OEM. This letter is just seeking OEM results.) This is how the test was done..... The test was done on a Canon i960, 6 color photo printer and OEM Canon 4x6 paper. The test compared the Canon OEM ink (installed colors included:BCI-6 BK,C,M,Y,PC, and PM) vs. 6 virgin cartridge that were filled with ink from Hobbicolors. Steps done in performing test. 1. Printed 3 pictures with Canon OEM ink on Canon OEM paper. 2. Changed all 6 inks cartridges with Hobbicolors virgin filled ink cartridges. 3. Ran cleaning mode, printed 2 test pages, printed 1 extra photo that was not used in this test. 4. Printed 3 pictures with after-market ink on Canon OEM paper. I showed the pictures to two people. I first showed the after-market ink pictures. They thought the pictures were good quality. Then I showed the OEM ink picture to them to compare. They thought the OEM ink was excellent quality and there was an obvious difference. Of course and the OEM photos will last much longer without fading. The best example I could give would be similar to a person who watched television on a top-of-the line Sony television without HDTV and said the picture is great. Then the same person watches HDTV on a Plasma for the first time and decides that his Sony television sucks. You got it. I know people on www.nifty-stuff.com are claiming OEM results. Those are a cult and remember the there is a difference between actuality and a claim Am I doing something wrong? You did things the right way. So get rid of the inferior ink and use OEM Canon ink. Can somebody please offer suggestions as in setting the printer to get the OEM results. Stan hehehehe...talking to yourself again? Evidently, since the only post I see in this thread so far is yours. My kill file is quite large for this group nowadays. |
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Disappointing results from Hobbicolors.....need advice in printer setting.
wrote in message oups.com... I finally found somebody who actually took my advise and purchased the Hobbicolor ink. The results were disappointing. However, I need help with some advice as in printer setting that maybe I don't know about. The main problem appears to be people with black hair. Most of the pictures that came out, the person appeared to have grey hair. (BTW - I don't mean to put down Hobbicolors. Actually the whole process of refilling was very easy. No leaks, no spills, and just very simple. The person told me that Hobbicolors has excellent customer service and they seem very professional. The person even recommends Hobbicolors to other because of the money saved compared to OEM. This letter is just seeking OEM results.) This is how the test was done..... The test was done on a Canon i960, 6 color photo printer and OEM Canon 4x6 paper. The test compared the Canon OEM ink (installed colors included:BCI-6 BK,C,M,Y,PC, and PM) vs. 6 virgin cartridge that were filled with ink from Hobbicolors. Steps done in performing test. 1. Printed 3 pictures with Canon OEM ink on Canon OEM paper. 2. Changed all 6 inks cartridges with Hobbicolors virgin filled ink cartridges. 3. Ran cleaning mode, printed 2 test pages, printed 1 extra photo that was not used in this test. 4. Printed 3 pictures with after-market ink on Canon OEM paper. I showed the pictures to two people. I first showed the after-market ink pictures. They thought the pictures were good quality. Then I showed the OEM ink picture to them to compare. They thought the OEM ink was excellent quality and there was an obvious difference. The best example I could give would be similar to a person who watched television on a top-of-the line Sony television without HDTV and said the picture is great. Then the same person watches HDTV on a Plasma for the first time and decides that his Sony television sucks. I know people on www.nifty-stuff.com are claiming OEM results. Am I doing something wrong? Can somebody please offer suggestions as in setting the printer to get the OEM results. Stan All ink sets vary somewhat from one to the other. I use MIS inks in an i960. I set the color to manual, click "set", ICM off, and print type "auto". The prints come out extremely close to what I see on the screen. I actually like my prints with MIS better than Canon OEM as the Canon inks tend to produce oversaturated prints. A friend uses Hobicolors in an ip5000 and gets beautiful prints. They may not look exactly like OEM, but he likes them just as well. Another friend uses Formulabs inks in his Canon i9900 (eight color.) He as done a custom profile and gets excellent results. Remember that the profiles inthe Canon software are for their inks set. On my wife's ip5000 with MIS inks I tried the Canon easyprint program as it would be simpler for her to use than Photoshop. It produced lousy prints. I then printed the same pix out of photoshop and got beautiful prints. The bottom line? lots of variables. You have to play with it to get the right combinations of paper, ink, software, etc. Of course, our ever-present troll will now chime in to tell us that Canon has already matched up all these variables, but my response is that, once I hit the right settings, I get prints that are as good as Canon OEM inks. AND --- at one tenth the cost. |
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Disappointing results from Hobbicolors.....need advice in printer setting.
On Jul 28, 6:21 pm, "Burt" wrote:
wrote in message oups.com... I finally found somebody who actually took my advise and purchased the Hobbicolor ink. The results were disappointing. However, I need help with some advice as in printer setting that maybe I don't know about. The main problem appears to be people with black hair. Most of the pictures that came out, the person appeared to have grey hair. (BTW - I don't mean to put down Hobbicolors. Actually the whole process of refilling was very easy. No leaks, no spills, and just very simple. The person told me that Hobbicolors has excellent customer service and they seem very professional. The person even recommends Hobbicolors to other because of the money saved compared to OEM. This letter is just seeking OEM results.) This is how the test was done..... The test was done on a Canon i960, 6 color photo printer and OEM Canon 4x6 paper. The test compared the Canon OEM ink (installed colors included:BCI-6 BK,C,M,Y,PC, and PM) vs. 6 virgin cartridge that were filled with ink from Hobbicolors. Steps done in performing test. 1. Printed 3 pictures with Canon OEM ink on Canon OEM paper. 2. Changed all 6 inks cartridges with Hobbicolors virgin filled ink cartridges. 3. Ran cleaning mode, printed 2 test pages, printed 1 extra photo that was not used in this test. 4. Printed 3 pictures with after-market ink on Canon OEM paper. I showed the pictures to two people. I first showed the after-market ink pictures. They thought the pictures were good quality. Then I showed the OEM ink picture to them to compare. They thought the OEM ink was excellent quality and there was an obvious difference. The best example I could give would be similar to a person who watched television on a top-of-the line Sony television without HDTV and said the picture is great. Then the same person watches HDTV on a Plasma for the first time and decides that his Sony television sucks. I know people onwww.nifty-stuff.comare claiming OEM results. Am I doing something wrong? Can somebody please offer suggestions as in setting the printer to get the OEM results. Stan All ink sets vary somewhat from one to the other. I use MIS inks in an i960. I set the color to manual, click "set", ICM off, and print type "auto". The prints come out extremely close to what I see on the screen. I actually like my prints with MIS better than Canon OEM as the Canon inks tend to produce oversaturated prints. A friend uses Hobicolors in an ip5000 and gets beautiful prints. They may not look exactly like OEM, but he likes them just as well. Another friend uses Formulabs inks in his Canon i9900 (eight color.) He as done a custom profile and gets excellent results. Remember that the profiles inthe Canon software are for their inks set. On my wife's ip5000 with MIS inks I tried the Canon easyprint program as it would be simpler for her to use than Photoshop. It produced lousy prints. I then printed the same pix out of photoshop and got beautiful prints. The bottom line? lots of variables. You have to play with it to get the right combinations of paper, ink, software, etc. Of course, our ever-present troll will now chime in to tell us that Canon has already matched up all these variables, but my response is that, once I hit the right settings, I get prints that are as good as Canon OEM inks. AND --- at one tenth the cost. Burt, thanks for the info. So the printer program matter? I believe we were using picassa from Google. Hmmmmm.... That a thought. I will try another program. I guess if it doesn't work then I will just recommend MIS in the future. I remember in your previous post, you recommended three companies. The reason I recommended Hobbicolors was because hobbicolors had the best price, and they included virgin cartridges. Thanks, Stan |
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Disappointing results from Hobbicolors.....need advice in printer setting.
Frank,
I'm glad you reading. As stated..... the Hobbicolors was pretty good with the exception of the color of the hair. The pictures that were taken were of Asian teenagers. Asians tend to have black hair. Do you know if there is any printer adjustment. Burt stated to try another program. However, I wanted your opinion. I know that you have been using them with a lot of success. thanks, stan |
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Disappointing results from Hobbicolors.....need advice in printer setting.
On Jul 28, 3:28 pm, Michael Johnson wrote:
Frank wrote: measekite wrote: wrote: I finally found somebody who actually took my advise and purchased the Hobbicolor ink. The results were disappointing. That means the posters that rave about them must be either lying or have some association with it. However, I need help with some advice as in printer setting that maybe I don't know about. The main problem appears to be people with black hair. Most of the pictures that came out, the person appeared to have grey hair. If they are selling old ink then that can explain it. Senior ink produces Senior Citizens. (BTW - I don't mean to put down Hobbicolors. Actually the whole process of refilling was very easy. No leaks, no spills, and just very simple. The person told me that Hobbicolors has excellent customer service and they seem very professional. The person even recommends Hobbicolors to other because of the money saved compared to OEM. This letter is just seeking OEM results.) This is how the test was done..... The test was done on a Canon i960, 6 color photo printer and OEM Canon 4x6 paper. The test compared the Canon OEM ink (installed colors included:BCI-6 BK,C,M,Y,PC, and PM) vs. 6 virgin cartridge that were filled with ink from Hobbicolors. Steps done in performing test. 1. Printed 3 pictures with Canon OEM ink on Canon OEM paper. 2. Changed all 6 inks cartridges with Hobbicolors virgin filled ink cartridges. 3. Ran cleaning mode, printed 2 test pages, printed 1 extra photo that was not used in this test. 4. Printed 3 pictures with after-market ink on Canon OEM paper. I showed the pictures to two people. I first showed the after-market ink pictures. They thought the pictures were good quality. Then I showed the OEM ink picture to them to compare. They thought the OEM ink was excellent quality and there was an obvious difference. Of course and the OEM photos will last much longer without fading. The best example I could give would be similar to a person who watched television on a top-of-the line Sony television without HDTV and said the picture is great. Then the same person watches HDTV on a Plasma for the first time and decides that his Sony television sucks. You got it. I know people onwww.nifty-stuff.comare claiming OEM results. Those are a cult and remember the there is a difference between actuality and a claim Am I doing something wrong? You did things the right way. So get rid of the inferior ink and use OEM Canon ink. Can somebody please offer suggestions as in setting the printer to get the OEM results. Stan hehehehe...talking to yourself again? Evidently, since the only post I see in this thread so far is yours. My kill file is quite large for this group nowadays. Michael Johnson, this really is a sincere question. Stan |
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Disappointing results from Hobbicolors.....need advice in printer setting.
wrote in message oups.com... On Jul 28, 6:21 pm, "Burt" wrote: wrote in message oups.com... The reason I recommended Hobbicolors was because hobbicolors had the best price, and they included virgin cartridges. Thanks, Stan Hi. It seems rather strange that you would recommend a 3rd party ink set, without ever having used it. You have now used it and are not too happy with the results. In order to get accurate colours for photos, you really do need to understand and apply Colour Management. Your printer driver will have, and use, built in ICC Profiles, depending on what settings you make. Those Profiles will be for Canon Ink onto Canon Paper, so they will not be accurate for any other kind of ink or paper. You will now need to get a Profile made for your current Ink Set and Paper combination. There are a number of companies which can do this for you at a reasonable cost. Once you have done that you should get accurate colours and density, provided you print using a Colour Management aware Program like PS, and select the correct Profile for it to use. Roy G |
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Disappointing results from Hobbicolors.....need advice in printer setting.
Branwynn wrote:
You spammed this newsgroup with pure garbage earlier! There's never been anything "sincere" about you. You're just a regular troll under an alias name. Stop wastin' everyone's time here. No one with half a brain will respond to you! \|||/ (o o) ,----ooO--(_)-------. | Please | | don't feed the | | TROLL's ! | '--------------Ooo--' |__|__| || || ooO Ooo |
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