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  #101  
Old August 2nd 07, 02:26 AM posted to comp.periphs.printers
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Default Ray.....Please share your experience with aftermarket ink.



Ray wrote:

On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 15:27:43 -0000, wrote:



Ray, thanks for your post. So MIS is the best ink. According to another person, they believe that MIS is image Specialist ink. If that is true, then you can get a better price at
http://home.eol.ca/~mikling/Equipment.html.



A qualified yes. MIS, in my opinion, is the best of that I have tried. I am satisfied with MIS service and am willing to pay a few bucks more, especially since I know what I am getting and they are consistent.


Not true.  You do not know what you are getting because they will not disclose the mfg/formulator.  Since they do not offer full disclosure you never know what they change suppliers so you really cannot know if they are consistent or not.






Also, I agree with your 2 printer set up. One for disposable prints and one for photos. Just in case you wanted to know, EBAY tends to carry the cheapest prices for Canon OEM ink. I've seen some for $6.50 a color shipped. However, it varies according to the bid. I think you can easy buy 1 color for less then $8.00 shipped.



For the CLI-8 eBay seems to average about $10 for closed auctions with some going for less. I am not patient enough to try to snag the $6.50 ones. Thanks for the advice. I usually pay about $10 each at the local office supply stores with their promotions. Sometimes I even get $3 back for the empties.



A vacation in Hawaii for 6 months. It's okay, you don't have to be that modest. I'm assuming you have a second house and Hawaii. That's awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!



A bit off topic. I retired 15 years ago. Our life style has been renting a house in various locations for a few years and getting to know an area. Since retiring we have lived in CO, WA, OR, NV, and CA. We are settling down and will buy a house in WA, but before we start looking we are putting our household good in storage and renting a 3 bed, 2 bath furnished house with utilities and a car for $1100 per month on the big island. It is owned by the son of a friend. We leave next week. It should be interesting. Thanks, Ray



Thanks, stan

  #102  
Old August 2nd 07, 02:30 AM posted to comp.periphs.printers
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Default Ray.....Please share your experience with aftermarket ink.



Ray wrote:

On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 16:05:53 GMT, measekite wrote:



Try Pantone. They are supposed to be a first class company.



Does Pantone have Canon ink? Last time I looked they seem to only carry Epson.


Not sure about Canon ink.  But I do hear they are very good and reputable.
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Old August 2nd 07, 03:49 AM posted to comp.periphs.printers
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Default The true cost of printing ink ?

Brendan R. Wehrung wrote:
"Jan Alter" ) writes:
"Red Fox" wrote in message
t...
Today I paid over $40 for two dinky little ink cartridges. I bet the empty
cartridges cost no more than a $ or 2 to make, so why does the ink and
refilling cost so much?

It seems that the number of outfits refilling the cartridges is now
becoming
an epidemic. Maybe that will bring the price down.

Could ink be bought in bulk, say in 4 or 6 oz bottles and then loaded into
the cartridges when needed, or is that task a difficult one? Undoubtedly
the ink has to be carefully protected from the air. Has anyone done this?

TIA

RF


Do a little Google search and you'll find an easy dozen companies selling
ink in bulk to do just that. You can also do a search for refilling
cartirdges. Some are easier than others. Additionally some of these
cartridges have little cb 's on then (circuit board) that are implanted
there by the manufacturer to thwart anyone from refilling. However, chip
resetters have been around almost as long as the cb's to reprogram the chips
to say 'full' again and thwart the printer companies. It's a vicious circle
that makes ink the bulk of the money for printer companies while buying the
ink in bulk and refilling saves it for the consumer.

Jan Alter






If you choose to use manufacturer's carts (I do, for best print
quality--and don't tell me how "good" or "close to" replacment inks are;
they aren't) at least get your money's worth out of them. Office max, who
will refill an empty cart for not much less than a manufacturers' brand
name, which tell you something) will give you $3 off a purchase for the
empty. They sell them to refillers, whose products are (again) not much
cheaper than the maker's brand (I have to wonder why, given that bulk in
really is not all that expensive).

In other words, it's a racket, and you have to decide what you want. I
want trouble-free printing with best quality. Commercially refilled carts
can come close, and if you refill yourself, well, is the stuff in the
bottle just food dye? Read all the compaints hee and decide for yourself.


I just wanted to make a quick post to thank you for loyally buying OEM
ink. It is people like you that insure that people like me (compatible
ink users) will pay a ridiculously low price for our next ink jet
printer that we will promptly refill with compatible ink after the
initial set of OEM cartridges go empty.

I pay $1.50/cartridge for 95% of the quality of OEM ink. That last 5%
may be more important to you than it is to me. I have better things to
spend my money on than extremely over priced OEM ink. BTW, I have yet
to have a print fade that was made with compatible ink. If one does
ever happen to fade, I can easily print another one for just a few cents
and still be far ahead on printing costs.

OTOH, are we sure this wasn't a quick drive-by post by our neighborhood
troll?
  #104  
Old August 2nd 07, 04:11 AM posted to comp.periphs.printers
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Default Ray.....Please share your experience with aftermarket ink.


A bit off topic. I retired 15 years ago. Our life style has been
renting a house in various locations for a few years and getting to
know an area. Since retiring we have lived in CO, WA, OR, NV, and CA.
We are settling down and will buy a house in WA, but before we start
looking we are putting our household good in storage and renting a 3
bed, 2 bath furnished house with utilities and a car for $1100 per
month on the big island. It is owned by the son of a friend. We
leave next week. It should be interesting.


Ray,
This is probably the coolest thing I've read in a long time. I envy
you. You are my hero. When I retire in 20 plus years, I think I will
follow your footsteps.

Stan

  #105  
Old August 2nd 07, 08:22 AM posted to comp.periphs.printers
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Default Ray.....Please share your experience with aftermarket ink.

measekite wrote:

Not sure about Canon ink. But I do hear they are very good and reputable.


Yeah - from the voices in your head! You _must_ obey the instructions on
the bottle and take the tablets at the prescribed intervals!
  #107  
Old August 2nd 07, 02:33 PM posted to comp.periphs.printers
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Look atwww.pcworld.comorwww.pcmag.com or google whilhelm
labs and read the test results. Then you will know.


What I do know is that the magazines you cited here receive
substantial advertising revenue from the OEMs and not from the
aftermarket ink suppliers. While you're at it, ask Wilhelm where he
gets his funding from! My point here is that I would be extremely
skeptical about test results from any publication or organization that
is connected or supported financially by companies whose products they
review in any way whatsoever.




  #108  
Old August 2nd 07, 10:58 PM posted to comp.periphs.printers
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Joe D wrote:

Look atwww.pcworld.comorwww.pcmag.com or google whilhelm



labs and read the test results. Then you will know.



What I do know is that the magazines you cited here receive substantial advertising revenue from the OEMs and not from the aftermarket ink suppliers.


They do not advertise because they do not want to say what they are advertising.  Plus their sales are so low they cannot afford it,.


While you're at it, ask Wilhelm where he gets his funding from! My point here is that I would be extremely skeptical about test results from any publication or organization that is connected or supported financially by companies whose products they review in any way whatsoever.

  #109  
Old August 3rd 07, 12:56 AM posted to comp.periphs.printers
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measekite wrote:



They do not advertise because they do not want to say what they are
advertising.


hehehehe...do you even understand what you post...hehehe...mindless
horse ****!


Plus their sales are so low they cannot afford it,.

hehehe...more idiotic crap...you know nothing do you? Yet you daily come
in here and make yourself look just like a stupid fool!
We've all suspected for years now that you're are mentally
deranged...and that's true isn't it?
Frank
  #110  
Old August 3rd 07, 07:38 AM posted to comp.periphs.printers
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Frank wrote:
measekite wrote:



They do not advertise because they do not want to say what they are
advertising.


hehehehe...do you even understand what you post...hehehe...mindless
horse ****!


I think you mean ha ha ha


Plus their sales are so low they cannot afford it,.

hehehe...more idiotic crap...you know nothing do you? Yet you daily
come in here and make yourself look just like a stupid fool!


I really hope they do not get me confused with you. ha ha ha
We've all suspected for years now that you're are mentally
deranged...and that's true isn't it?
Frank

 




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