Something very scary just happened.

Small little "damn" you electronics people are pretty lucky.

I was about to go on a "raging campaign" against "european power wall
sockets" and make a nice small little youtube video demonstrating the
problem.

There are now a couple of further problems:

1. First the "*.mov" ****ing video format prevented me from doing this much
sooner, unable to process it properly and cut it into nice video.

2. Flash disk containing the video has been formatted for new stuff.

3. I think I did copy the video to my old pentium III when my DreamPC was in
trouble or something...

Now my Pentium III is in trouble and can't get to the files...

Amazingly enough I do not have that amazing video on my dreampc ?!

Maybe I should try and search somewhat harder... but this kinda sux.

Windows 7 also kinda sux and make things a bit worse... still now easy
viewing of dir *.mov

At least VLC Media Player can play *.mov files without requiring the
dangerous apple software to be installed on windows 7

Don't wanna catch no quicktime movie viruses/hacks on my dreampc !

Once again the electric industry escapes my wrath !

Bye,
Skybuck.

Skybuck Flying wrote:

Today I opened the pentium III 450 mhz

You, opening up a computer would scare the crap out of me.


5. Spider which I killed a few days ago short circuited it... unlikely but
cannot be ruled out.

Make sure you replace it with a spider of equal or greater rating.

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One last theory why PC died:

The power wall sockets all belong to the same group. There are two groups.

The PC's are all on the same group.

The pentium was he


+---------------------------------------------+
| |
| +----------------+
| | |
Pentium DreamPC Receiver

This drawing is one group.

The DreamPC was on drawing 240 220 whatever volts or so.

The receiver was drawing 220 volts/whatever.

DreamPC and receiver were both on.

I plugged in the pentium and it get 220+220 volts is over voltage for a
short momemt.

Maybe the flow of electricity was so high towards the DreamPc and Receiver
that it somehow caused an overvoltage when I plugged in the pentium ?!?!?!?

Bye,
Skybuck.

This theory should be easy to test by someone

Bye,
Skybuck.

"Skybuck Flying" wrote in message
.home.nl...

One last theory why PC died:

The power wall sockets all belong to the same group. There are two groups.

The PC's are all on the same group.

The pentium was he


+---------------------------------------------+
| |
| +----------------+
| | |
Pentium DreamPC Receiver

This drawing is one group.

The DreamPC was on drawing 240 220 whatever volts or so.

The receiver was drawing 220 volts/whatever.

DreamPC and receiver were both on.

I plugged in the pentium and it get 220+220 volts is over voltage for a
short momemt.

Maybe the flow of electricity was so high towards the DreamPc and Receiver
that it somehow caused an overvoltage when I plugged in the pentium ?!?!?!?

Bye,
Skybuck.

Other factors to consider during the test to reproduce damage: Plug in power
cord skewed/diagonal... I plug it in kinda skewed to see what I am doing...
then there was a spark ?!

I'd love to hear your explanations how it's possible for a PC to die ? By
just plugging it in ?!

It ****es me off !

Bye.
Skybuck.

"Skybuck Flying" wrote in message
.home.nl...

This theory should be easy to test by someone

Bye,
Skybuck.

"Skybuck Flying" wrote in message
.home.nl...

One last theory why PC died:

The power wall sockets all belong to the same group. There are two groups.

The PC's are all on the same group.

The pentium was he


+---------------------------------------------+
| |
| +----------------+
| | |
Pentium DreamPC Receiver

This drawing is one group.

The DreamPC was on drawing 240 220 whatever volts or so.

The receiver was drawing 220 volts/whatever.

DreamPC and receiver were both on.

I plugged in the pentium and it get 220+220 volts is over voltage for a
short momemt.

Maybe the flow of electricity was so high towards the DreamPc and Receiver
that it somehow caused an overvoltage when I plugged in the pentium ?!?!?!?

Bye,
Skybuck.

Paul Hovnanian P.E. a écrit :
Skybuck Flying wrote:

Today I opened the pentium III 450 mhz

You, opening up a computer would scare the crap out of me.

5. Spider which I killed a few days ago short circuited it... unlikely but
cannot be ruled out.

Make sure you replace it with a spider of equal or greater rating.


LOL!

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Thanks,
Fred.

On Aug 31, 5:50*am, Paul wrote:
Skybuck Flying wrote:
Nope, wide a wake...

I just woke up and went... ! =D

Bye,
*Skybuck =D

Well, now that you're wide awake...

1) Unplug the Pentium III computer.

2) Remove the power supply.

3) Remove the four screws holding the top onto the power supply.

4) Examine the supply for visual damage, like a blown up
* * main capacitor. You'll likely find some signs of damage
* * in there.

Do *not* touch anything in there. Open it up, have a look,
conclude it is destroyed, and buy another power supply.

The Pentium III motherboard could be ruined, but you won't
know for sure, until you put the new power supply in it
and test the computer again. With a new power supply, it
should be safe to test.

Do *not* attempt to turn on the old supply again. You should
make no further attempt to run the old supply. And examining
it visually inside, should tell you all you need to know.

* * Paul

On Aug 31, 5:50*am, Paul wrote:
Skybuck Flying wrote:
Nope, wide a wake...

I just woke up and went... ! =D

Bye,
*Skybuck =D

Well, now that you're wide awake...

1) Unplug the Pentium III computer.

2) Remove the power supply.

3) Remove the four screws holding the top onto the power supply.

4) Examine the supply for visual damage, like a blown up
* * main capacitor. You'll likely find some signs of damage
* * in there.

Do *not* touch anything in there. Open it up, have a look,
conclude it is destroyed, and buy another power supply.

The Pentium III motherboard could be ruined, but you won't
know for sure, until you put the new power supply in it
and test the computer again. With a new power supply, it
should be safe to test.

Do *not* attempt to turn on the old supply again. You should
make no further attempt to run the old supply. And examining
it visually inside, should tell you all you need to know.

* * Paul

It could be something like a cockroach, I have had PC's brought in
where a large one would get between the terminals of main filter caps
(that have about 360v across them) and start arcing through the
cockroach to the chassis. Usually the cockroach quickly burns up,
removing the short and then all is well, but often it will blow the
mains fuse in the power supply. If you already had plenty of load on
the power circuit in your home, this might have been enough to trip
the circuit breaker.

I already done this, I am not going to test the dead computer, I will save
equipment for the more important computer.

(See other sub thread where I already described all of this )

There was no damage visible.

Bye,
Skybuck.