HELP: Hardware Resources - How resolve memory conflict?

Hi. I have a 24 / 7 machine running an important task in my office, running
W2K Pro sp4, that keeps getting hung up by a memory conflict. I can see
where it is happening, but I don't know how to fix it.

In Computer Management... Hardware resources, Memory, I see:

0xD0800 - 0xEFFFF PCI Bus
0xD0800 - 0xEFFFF System Board

AND an ISA hardware board in the PC is using 0xD0000 - 0xD8000. This is
presumably the conflict for my intermittment hanging issue. And my ISA
board won't work in any other space (I've tried every option and this is the
only one that works).

For those who understand, I assume System Board, means the motherboard,
right? But what the heck is PCI Bus doing using a memory area?

How can stop the motherboard and PCI Bus from using 0xD0000 to 0xD0800? Can
I? If not, am I supposed to buy a different motherboard because I have to
use this ISA card and it wants this space?

"Jim Turner" wrote in message
s.com...
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 01:34:06 GMT, "FN"
wrote:

Hi. I have a 24 / 7 machine running an important task in my office,
running
W2K Pro sp4, that keeps getting hung up by a memory conflict. I can
see
where it is happening, but I don't know how to fix it.

In Computer Management... Hardware resources, Memory, I see:

0xD0800 - 0xEFFFF PCI Bus
0xD0800 - 0xEFFFF System Board

AND an ISA hardware board in the PC is using 0xD0000 - 0xD8000. This is
presumably the conflict for my intermittment hanging issue. And my ISA
board won't work in any other space (I've tried every option and this is
the
only one that works).

For those who understand, I assume System Board, means the motherboard,
right? But what the heck is PCI Bus doing using a memory area?

How can stop the motherboard and PCI Bus from using 0xD0000 to 0xD0800?
Can
I? If not, am I supposed to buy a different motherboard because I have
to
use this ISA card and it wants this space?

More details about what the ISA board is might help, along with what
board you are using. There are few boards produced now with an ISA
slot. Need to know what you have so the problem can be avoided.

JT



Jim, the board shouldn't matter. I would say, but no one has heard of it.
It's made for the biotech industry, costs a fortune, and I have to use
0xD0000 to 0xD0800 with that board because the board won't load under any
other memory address (theoretically, it can, but it detects conflicts at
every other address but this range). So, back to my earlier questions
above...

On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 19:31:21 GMT, "FN"
wrote:


"Jim Turner" wrote in message
ws.com...
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 01:34:06 GMT, "FN"
wrote:

Hi. I have a 24 / 7 machine running an important task in my office,
running
W2K Pro sp4, that keeps getting hung up by a memory conflict. I can
see
where it is happening, but I don't know how to fix it.

In Computer Management... Hardware resources, Memory, I see:

0xD0800 - 0xEFFFF PCI Bus
0xD0800 - 0xEFFFF System Board

AND an ISA hardware board in the PC is using 0xD0000 - 0xD8000. This is
presumably the conflict for my intermittment hanging issue. And my ISA
board won't work in any other space (I've tried every option and this is
the
only one that works).

For those who understand, I assume System Board, means the motherboard,
right? But what the heck is PCI Bus doing using a memory area?

How can stop the motherboard and PCI Bus from using 0xD0000 to 0xD0800?
Can
I? If not, am I supposed to buy a different motherboard because I have
to
use this ISA card and it wants this space?

More details about what the ISA board is might help, along with what
board you are using. There are few boards produced now with an ISA
slot. Need to know what you have so the problem can be avoided.

JT



Jim, the board shouldn't matter. I would say, but no one has heard of it.
It's made for the biotech industry, costs a fortune, and I have to use
0xD0000 to 0xD0800 with that board because the board won't load under any
other memory address (theoretically, it can, but it detects conflicts at
every other address but this range). So, back to my earlier questions
above...

What motherboard are you using? Wasn't clear that I wanted that info
to. Chipsets can make a difference on what address ranges are used.

"Jim Turner" wrote in message
s.com...
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 19:31:21 GMT, "FN"
wrote:


"Jim Turner" wrote in message
ws.com...
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 01:34:06 GMT, "FN"
wrote:

Hi. I have a 24 / 7 machine running an important task in my office,
running
W2K Pro sp4, that keeps getting hung up by a memory conflict. I can
see
where it is happening, but I don't know how to fix it.

In Computer Management... Hardware resources, Memory, I see:

0xD0800 - 0xEFFFF PCI Bus
0xD0800 - 0xEFFFF System Board

AND an ISA hardware board in the PC is using 0xD0000 - 0xD8000. This
is
presumably the conflict for my intermittment hanging issue. And my
ISA
board won't work in any other space (I've tried every option and this
is
the
only one that works).

For those who understand, I assume System Board, means the
motherboard,
right? But what the heck is PCI Bus doing using a memory area?

How can stop the motherboard and PCI Bus from using 0xD0000 to
0xD0800?
Can
I? If not, am I supposed to buy a different motherboard because I
have
to
use this ISA card and it wants this space?

More details about what the ISA board is might help, along with what
board you are using. There are few boards produced now with an ISA
slot. Need to know what you have so the problem can be avoided.

JT



Jim, the board shouldn't matter. I would say, but no one has heard of
it.
It's made for the biotech industry, costs a fortune, and I have to use
0xD0000 to 0xD0800 with that board because the board won't load under any
other memory address (theoretically, it can, but it detects conflicts at
every other address but this range). So, back to my earlier questions
above...

What motherboard are you using? Wasn't clear that I wanted that info
to. Chipsets can make a difference on what address ranges are used.




The motherboard is an old Pentium II-300 based ASUS P2B motherboard.
Thanks.

"FN" wrote in message
...
:
: "Jim Turner" wrote in message
: s.com...
: On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 19:31:21 GMT, "FN"
: wrote:
:
:
: "Jim Turner" wrote in message
: ws.com...
: On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 01:34:06 GMT, "FN"
: wrote:
:
: Hi. I have a 24 / 7 machine running an important task in my office,
: running
: W2K Pro sp4, that keeps getting hung up by a memory conflict. I
can
: see
: where it is happening, but I don't know how to fix it.
:
: In Computer Management... Hardware resources, Memory, I see:
:
: 0xD0800 - 0xEFFFF PCI Bus
: 0xD0800 - 0xEFFFF System Board
:
: AND an ISA hardware board in the PC is using 0xD0000 - 0xD8000.
This
: is
: presumably the conflict for my intermittment hanging issue. And my
: ISA
: board won't work in any other space (I've tried every option and
this
: is
: the
: only one that works).
:
: For those who understand, I assume System Board, means the
: motherboard,
: right? But what the heck is PCI Bus doing using a memory area?
:
: How can stop the motherboard and PCI Bus from using 0xD0000 to
: 0xD0800?
: Can
: I? If not, am I supposed to buy a different motherboard because I
: have
: to
: use this ISA card and it wants this space?
:
: More details about what the ISA board is might help, along with what
: board you are using. There are few boards produced now with an ISA
: slot. Need to know what you have so the problem can be avoided.
:
: JT
:
:
:
: Jim, the board shouldn't matter. I would say, but no one has heard of
: it.
: It's made for the biotech industry, costs a fortune, and I have to use
: 0xD0000 to 0xD0800 with that board because the board won't load under
any
: other memory address (theoretically, it can, but it detects conflicts
at
: every other address but this range). So, back to my earlier questions
: above...
:
: What motherboard are you using? Wasn't clear that I wanted that info
: to. Chipsets can make a difference on what address ranges are used.
:
:
:
:
: The motherboard is an old Pentium II-300 based ASUS P2B motherboard.
: Thanks.
:
:
Does a PII processor meet the minimum specs for W2K? Not to put too fine a
point on it if its a 24/7 "important" process is a $20 system really the
right place to run it? I believe there are ISA to PCI adaptors that may be
cheaper than a new bio-board. Alternatively you should be able to buy
refurbed MBs with ISA on them.

W2K is not the world's sturdiest OS. XP is much more stable but it
certainly won't run worth a darn on a PII. I've run with both and I play
around with the shareware a lot so it tends to be unstable to begin with and
XP is in my opinion a lot more sturdy.

LOL
claus

LOL

On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 21:39:01 GMT, "FN"
wrote:




The motherboard is an old Pentium II-300 based ASUS P2B motherboard.
Thanks.


Might not be able to do what you want. The addresses and irq of the
chipsets/motherboard resources are hardwired. Unusual that an ISA card
would use that address range. Remove all other cards except video in
the system and use just the ISA card with different settings. Get this
working and resolve the conflicts with other cards as you plug them
back in one at a time.

thanks for telling me that they are hardwired. there are no other cards,
by the way, except a raid card, which i also can't remove, and a network
card (which I suppose I could remove).


"Jim Turner" wrote in message
s.com...
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 21:39:01 GMT, "FN"
wrote:




The motherboard is an old Pentium II-300 based ASUS P2B motherboard.
Thanks.


Might not be able to do what you want. The addresses and irq of the
chipsets/motherboard resources are hardwired. Unusual that an ISA card
would use that address range. Remove all other cards except video in
the system and use just the ISA card with different settings. Get this
working and resolve the conflicts with other cards as you plug them
back in one at a time.

"santa" wrote in message
...

"FN" wrote in message
...
:
: "Jim Turner" wrote in message
: s.com...
: On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 19:31:21 GMT, "FN"
: wrote:
:
:
: "Jim Turner" wrote in message
: ws.com...
: On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 01:34:06 GMT, "FN"
: wrote:
:
: Hi. I have a 24 / 7 machine running an important task in my
office,
: running
: W2K Pro sp4, that keeps getting hung up by a memory conflict. I
can
: see
: where it is happening, but I don't know how to fix it.
:
: In Computer Management... Hardware resources, Memory, I see:
:
: 0xD0800 - 0xEFFFF PCI Bus
: 0xD0800 - 0xEFFFF System Board
:
: AND an ISA hardware board in the PC is using 0xD0000 - 0xD8000.
This
: is
: presumably the conflict for my intermittment hanging issue. And
my
: ISA
: board won't work in any other space (I've tried every option and
this
: is
: the
: only one that works).
:
: For those who understand, I assume System Board, means the
: motherboard,
: right? But what the heck is PCI Bus doing using a memory area?
:
: How can stop the motherboard and PCI Bus from using 0xD0000 to
: 0xD0800?
: Can
: I? If not, am I supposed to buy a different motherboard because
I
: have
: to
: use this ISA card and it wants this space?
:
: More details about what the ISA board is might help, along with
what
: board you are using. There are few boards produced now with an ISA
: slot. Need to know what you have so the problem can be avoided.
:
: JT
:
:
:
: Jim, the board shouldn't matter. I would say, but no one has heard
of
: it.
: It's made for the biotech industry, costs a fortune, and I have to
use
: 0xD0000 to 0xD0800 with that board because the board won't load under
any
: other memory address (theoretically, it can, but it detects conflicts
at
: every other address but this range). So, back to my earlier
questions
: above...
:
: What motherboard are you using? Wasn't clear that I wanted that info
: to. Chipsets can make a difference on what address ranges are used.
:
:
:
:
: The motherboard is an old Pentium II-300 based ASUS P2B motherboard.
: Thanks.
:
:
Does a PII processor meet the minimum specs for W2K? Not to put too fine
a
point on it if its a 24/7 "important" process is a $20 system really the
right place to run it? I believe there are ISA to PCI adaptors that may
be
cheaper than a new bio-board. Alternatively you should be able to buy
refurbed MBs with ISA on them.

W2K is not the world's sturdiest OS. XP is much more stable but it
certainly won't run worth a darn on a PII. I've run with both and I play
around with the shareware a lot so it tends to be unstable to begin with
and
XP is in my opinion a lot more sturdy.

LOL
claus

LOL




Thanks for nothing. Yes, a pII is fine with w2k! It's not a money thing,
but rather a compatibility issue. XP and other newer stuff is not
compatible.

On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 21:57:05 GMT, "FN"
wrote:

thanks for telling me that they are hardwired. there are no other cards,
by the way, except a raid card, which i also can't remove, and a network
card (which I suppose I could remove).


Remove the network card and see what you can do. Or move it and the
raid to a different PCI slot. PCI Address ranges are usually assigned
based on which slot you plug into. If you aren't booting off the raid
(or can temporarily set it up without it) get it working there first.
Then add cards. Might need a different NIC (which is cheap) or RAID
controller (not as cheap)

Hope this Helps

Jim

PS. what other address ranges does the card accept, and what devices
are using those addresses.