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Old February 1st 04, 10:32 PM
Fishman
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Default TV Cards - Did you know?

Did you know that it is illegal for a dealer to supply a TV card and not
record the buyers name and address and then pass this information on to the
TV Licencing authority within 28 days?

Similiar applies if as a dealer, you sell a PC with a TV card installed -
new or secondhand.

Information extracted from: http://www.tv-l.co.uk/index_frameset.html
Section :- TV Dealer Information

So, if say you bought a TV card from PC World, paid cash and they did not
request your details, an offence has been commited.

Before you say it -
Another useless fact to fill up the grey matter with!


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Old February 1st 04, 11:27 PM
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"Fishman" wrote in message
...
Did you know that it is illegal for a dealer to supply a TV card and not
record the buyers name and address and then pass this information on to

the
TV Licencing authority within 28 days?

Similiar applies if as a dealer, you sell a PC with a TV card installed -
new or secondhand.

Information extracted from: http://www.tv-l.co.uk/index_frameset.html
Section :- TV Dealer Information

So, if say you bought a TV card from PC World, paid cash and they did not
request your details, an offence has been commited.

Before you say it -
Another useless fact to fill up the grey matter with!




Did you know Dixons group (PC World) were fined a few years ago for this
offence?






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Old February 2nd 04, 01:22 AM
Craven Birds
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"Fishman" wrote in message
...
Did you know that it is illegal for a dealer to supply a TV card and not
record the buyers name and address and then pass this information on to

the
TV Licencing authority within 28 days?

Similiar applies if as a dealer, you sell a PC with a TV card installed -
new or secondhand.

Information extracted from: http://www.tv-l.co.uk/index_frameset.html
Section :- TV Dealer Information

So, if say you bought a TV card from PC World, paid cash and they did not
request your details, an offence has been commited.

Before you say it -
Another useless fact to fill up the grey matter with!


Absolute rubbish! There is no obligation, because whilst not in a computer
it cannot receive a TV signal!

Quote: "If you use or install television receiving equipment to receive or
record television programme services you are required by law to have a valid
TV Licence."


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Old February 2nd 04, 01:36 AM
Johannes H Andersen
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Craven Birds wrote:

"Fishman" wrote in message
...
Did you know that it is illegal for a dealer to supply a TV card and not
record the buyers name and address and then pass this information on to

the
TV Licencing authority within 28 days?

Similiar applies if as a dealer, you sell a PC with a TV card installed -
new or secondhand.

Information extracted from: http://www.tv-l.co.uk/index_frameset.html
Section :- TV Dealer Information

So, if say you bought a TV card from PC World, paid cash and they did not
request your details, an offence has been commited.

Before you say it -
Another useless fact to fill up the grey matter with!


Absolute rubbish! There is no obligation, because whilst not in a computer
it cannot receive a TV signal!

Quote: "If you use or install television receiving equipment to receive or
record television programme services you are required by law to have a valid
TV Licence."


Then look at the site again under TV DEALER INFORMATION

http://www.tv-l.co.uk/index_frameset.html

"Don't forget this also includes"
"o Computers fitted with electronic broadcast cards (TV Cards)."
"o TV Cards themselves"
"o Set-top boxes"
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Old February 2nd 04, 01:40 AM
Craven Birds
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"Johannes H Andersen" wrote in message
...


Craven Birds wrote:

"Fishman" wrote in message
...
Did you know that it is illegal for a dealer to supply a TV card and

not
record the buyers name and address and then pass this information on

to
the
TV Licencing authority within 28 days?

Similiar applies if as a dealer, you sell a PC with a TV card

installed -
new or secondhand.

Information extracted from: http://www.tv-l.co.uk/index_frameset.html
Section :- TV Dealer Information

So, if say you bought a TV card from PC World, paid cash and they did

not
request your details, an offence has been commited.

Before you say it -
Another useless fact to fill up the grey matter with!


Absolute rubbish! There is no obligation, because whilst not in a

computer
it cannot receive a TV signal!

Quote: "If you use or install television receiving equipment to receive

or
record television programme services you are required by law to have a

valid
TV Licence."


Then look at the site again under TV DEALER INFORMATION

http://www.tv-l.co.uk/index_frameset.html

"Don't forget this also includes"
"o Computers fitted with electronic broadcast cards (TV Cards)."
"o TV Cards themselves"
"o Set-top boxes"


Don't need to! A solicitor would make mince meat of them in court;-) The bit
of metal alone cannot recieve a TV signal and software is also required for
it to function. So therefore, I'd dispute the fact that TV Cards require a
licence.
--
Craven Birds

Bird sightings based around 'Craven' Skipton, North Yorks.
http://cravenbirds.mysite.freeserve.com/
http://www.freewebs.com/birding/
http://mysite.freeserve.com/cravenbirds


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Old February 2nd 04, 01:48 AM
Johannes H Andersen
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Craven Birds wrote:

"Johannes H Andersen" wrote in message
...


Craven Birds wrote:

"Fishman" wrote in message
...
Did you know that it is illegal for a dealer to supply a TV card and

not
record the buyers name and address and then pass this information on

to
the
TV Licencing authority within 28 days?

Similiar applies if as a dealer, you sell a PC with a TV card

installed -
new or secondhand.

Information extracted from: http://www.tv-l.co.uk/index_frameset.html
Section :- TV Dealer Information

So, if say you bought a TV card from PC World, paid cash and they did

not
request your details, an offence has been commited.

Before you say it -
Another useless fact to fill up the grey matter with!

Absolute rubbish! There is no obligation, because whilst not in a

computer
it cannot receive a TV signal!

Quote: "If you use or install television receiving equipment to receive

or
record television programme services you are required by law to have a

valid
TV Licence."


Then look at the site again under TV DEALER INFORMATION

http://www.tv-l.co.uk/index_frameset.html

"Don't forget this also includes"
"o Computers fitted with electronic broadcast cards (TV Cards)."
"o TV Cards themselves"
"o Set-top boxes"


Don't need to! A solicitor would make mince meat of them in court;-) The bit
of metal alone cannot recieve a TV signal and software is also required for
it to function. So therefore, I'd dispute the fact that TV Cards require a
licence.
--


You don't understand that there are two rules: One for people installing
and using TV receiving equipment and another separate rule for TV dealers
who sell said equipment to people installing and... etc.
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Old February 2nd 04, 01:54 AM
tHatDudeUK
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"Fishman" wrote in message
...
Did you know that it is illegal for a dealer to supply a TV card and not
record the buyers name and address and then pass this information on to

the
TV Licencing authority within 28 days?


Give fake details or if mail order get it sent to a mates house who has a tv
license ;-)


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Old February 2nd 04, 01:55 AM
Craven Birds
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"Johannes H Andersen" wrote in message
...


Craven Birds wrote:

"Johannes H Andersen" wrote in message
...


Craven Birds wrote:

"Fishman" wrote in message
...
Did you know that it is illegal for a dealer to supply a TV card

and
not
record the buyers name and address and then pass this information

on
to
the
TV Licencing authority within 28 days?

Similiar applies if as a dealer, you sell a PC with a TV card

installed -
new or secondhand.

Information extracted from:

http://www.tv-l.co.uk/index_frameset.html
Section :- TV Dealer Information

So, if say you bought a TV card from PC World, paid cash and they

did
not
request your details, an offence has been commited.

Before you say it -
Another useless fact to fill up the grey matter with!

Absolute rubbish! There is no obligation, because whilst not in a

computer
it cannot receive a TV signal!

Quote: "If you use or install television receiving equipment to

receive
or
record television programme services you are required by law to have

a
valid
TV Licence."

Then look at the site again under TV DEALER INFORMATION

http://www.tv-l.co.uk/index_frameset.html

"Don't forget this also includes"
"o Computers fitted with electronic broadcast cards (TV Cards)."
"o TV Cards themselves"
"o Set-top boxes"


Don't need to! A solicitor would make mince meat of them in court;-) The

bit
of metal alone cannot recieve a TV signal and software is also required

for
it to function. So therefore, I'd dispute the fact that TV Cards

require a
licence.
--


You don't understand that there are two rules: One for people installing
and using TV receiving equipment and another separate rule for TV dealers
who sell said equipment to people installing and... etc.


Yes I do!

The Wireless Telegraphy Act 1967 (as amended) requires any dealer who sells
or rents TV receiving equipment (whether the equipment is new or
second-hand) to notify TV Licensing within 28 days of each transaction,
giving full details of the buyer or renter.

Read the above. That does not state anything about a computer ONLY dealer
having to inform the licencing authorities at all! I noticed the original
poster omitted a few words!

--
Craven Birds

Bird sightings based around 'Craven' Skipton, North Yorks.
http://cravenbirds.mysite.freeserve.com/
http://www.freewebs.com/birding/
http://mysite.freeserve.com/cravenbirds


  #9  
Old February 2nd 04, 02:13 AM
Johannes H Andersen
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Craven Birds wrote:

"Johannes H Andersen" wrote in message
...


Craven Birds wrote:

"Johannes H Andersen" wrote in message
...


Craven Birds wrote:

"Fishman" wrote in message
...
Did you know that it is illegal for a dealer to supply a TV card

and
not
record the buyers name and address and then pass this information

on
to
the
TV Licencing authority within 28 days?

Similiar applies if as a dealer, you sell a PC with a TV card
installed -
new or secondhand.

Information extracted from:

http://www.tv-l.co.uk/index_frameset.html
Section :- TV Dealer Information

So, if say you bought a TV card from PC World, paid cash and they

did
not
request your details, an offence has been commited.

Before you say it -
Another useless fact to fill up the grey matter with!

Absolute rubbish! There is no obligation, because whilst not in a
computer
it cannot receive a TV signal!

Quote: "If you use or install television receiving equipment to

receive
or
record television programme services you are required by law to have

a
valid
TV Licence."

Then look at the site again under TV DEALER INFORMATION

http://www.tv-l.co.uk/index_frameset.html

"Don't forget this also includes"
"o Computers fitted with electronic broadcast cards (TV Cards)."
"o TV Cards themselves"
"o Set-top boxes"

Don't need to! A solicitor would make mince meat of them in court;-) The

bit
of metal alone cannot recieve a TV signal and software is also required

for
it to function. So therefore, I'd dispute the fact that TV Cards

require a
licence.
--


You don't understand that there are two rules: One for people installing
and using TV receiving equipment and another separate rule for TV dealers
who sell said equipment to people installing and... etc.


Yes I do!

The Wireless Telegraphy Act 1967 (as amended) requires any dealer who sells
or rents TV receiving equipment (whether the equipment is new or
second-hand) to notify TV Licensing within 28 days of each transaction,
giving full details of the buyer or renter.

Read the above. That does not state anything about a computer ONLY dealer
having to inform the licencing authorities at all! I noticed the original
poster omitted a few words!


We're talking about TV cards here. Presumably TVLA have wised up to such
card as they certainly can be considered as TV receiving equipment. Hence
a computer dealer selling TV cards *is* selling TV equipment and in that
sense also a TV dealer. This has nothing to do with whether the said
equipment is installed to receive TV or not, this is the buyers problem.

Hence a TV licence for the buyer of the TV card is only required if he
installs and uses the TV card. If he installs the card, then this is a
gray area since the only rational reason for installing the card would
to use it at some point for receiving TV, otherwise why install it in
the first place.






--
Craven Birds

Bird sightings based around 'Craven' Skipton, North Yorks.
http://cravenbirds.mysite.freeserve.com/
http://www.freewebs.com/birding/
http://mysite.freeserve.com/cravenbirds

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Old February 2nd 04, 09:19 AM
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On Mon, 02 Feb 2004 01:13:16 +0000, in uk.comp.vendors, Johannes H Andersen
wrote:

Hence a TV licence for the buyer of the TV card is only required if he
installs and uses the TV card. If he installs the card, then this is a
gray area since the only rational reason for installing the card would
to use it at some point for receiving TV, otherwise why install it in
the first place.


Well, I use my TV card for its composite in input from camcorder, not
aerial input and the TV viewing software with it is rubbish.

So, no, its not the only use for it.

Note: I have a TV license.
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