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New CPU Required Driver Re-Install - Windows Media Player LoadingSlow
I just upgraded a an Intel D865GBF mother board to a 2.8 GHz Pentium
CPU from a 2.4 GHz Pentium CPU on a Win XP Pro computer. Everything appeared to be fine until I tried to play a song with Windows Media Player which would take about 15-20 seconds to load. I checked the device manager and it showed that all the drivers were working, including the on-board sound driver. I then re-installed the sound driver and the problem went away. Has anyone else ever ran into a problem like this? I wonder if there's anything else I should worry about? |
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New CPU Required Driver Re-Install - Windows Media Player LoadingSlow
mg wrote:
I just upgraded a an Intel D865GBF mother board to a 2.8 GHz Pentium CPU from a 2.4 GHz Pentium CPU on a Win XP Pro computer. Everything appeared to be fine until I tried to play a song with Windows Media Player which would take about 15-20 seconds to load. I checked the device manager and it showed that all the drivers were working, including the on-board sound driver. I then re-installed the sound driver and the problem went away. Has anyone else ever ran into a problem like this? I wonder if there's anything else I should worry about? Yeah, you need to worry about cosmic rays hitting your computer and flipping some bits in it. You solved your problem, are you trying to look for problems that don't exist yet? Yousuf Khan |
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New CPU Required Driver Re-Install - Windows Media Player LoadingSlow
On Dec 20, 6:09*pm, mg wrote:
I just upgraded a an Intel D865GBF mother board to a 2.8 GHz Pentium CPU from a 2.4 GHz Pentium CPU on a Win XP Pro computer. Everything appeared to be fine until I tried to play a song with Windows Media Player which would take about 15-20 seconds to load. I checked the device manager and it showed that all the drivers were working, including the on-board sound driver. I then re-installed the sound driver and the problem went away. Has anyone else ever ran into a problem like this? I wonder if there's anything else I should worry about? Most copies of Windows are sold under conditions that the license would be invalidated by changing the motherboard. I wouldn't at all put it past Microsoft to make it so that installation of some aspects of the OS are one time. The OS can detect and adapt to some kinds of configuration changes, but not to others--perhaps by design intent. I'm curious myself. Robert. |
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New CPU Required Driver Re-Install - Windows Media Player LoadingSlow
* Robert Myers:
Most copies of Windows are sold under conditions that the license would be invalidated by changing the motherboard. Please state the exact paragraph in the Ms EULA where it says that changing the mobo invalidates your license. Besides the small fact that such limitations would be against the law in most countries. Benjamin |
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New CPU Required Driver Re-Install - Windows Media Player LoadingSlow
On Dec 30, 3:08*pm, Benjamin Gawert wrote:
* Robert Myers: Most copies of Windows are sold under conditions that the license would be invalidated by changing the motherboard. Please state the exact paragraph in the Ms EULA where it says that changing the mobo invalidates your license. Besides the small fact that such limitations would be against the law in most countries. "OEM" Copies of Microsoft windows are sold for use on one machine and can't (legally) be transferred to another machine. The question then becomes what constitutes another machine. If you change enough hardware, the software believes it is on a different machine and thus, that the license has been invalidated. It has always been my assumption that if you changed the motherboard without the software believing that it was installed on a new machine, it would only be a matter of luck. That assumption could be wrong. In general, I'm not interested in responding to snotty demands that begin with "Please state the exact paragraph." To copy your rude style, please cite the law that you believe would make Microsoft OEM licenses illegal. Since you've said this is true for "most countries," I'm expecting a response with dozens of links citing all the relevant laws in different countries. Robert. |
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On Dec 30, 10:27*pm, Robert Myers wrote:
On Dec 30, 3:08*pm, Benjamin Gawert wrote: * Robert Myers: Most copies of Windows are sold under conditions that the license would be invalidated by changing the motherboard. Please state the exact paragraph in the Ms EULA where it says that changing the mobo invalidates your license. http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20061102-8140.html "OEM licenses still different It bears repeating, however, the the OEM license that comes with Vista is indeed similar to the Windows XP OEM license in that it forbids any kind of transfer. As we have previously reported, users have nevertheless had success transferring those copies of Windows, but they are technically stepping outside of the bounds of the EULA when doing so." Retail licenses are transferrable, but they are a small fraction of licenses sold. If you transfer an OEM license and get away with it, it is, as I said, a matter of luck. If changing the motherboard doesn't make the box "another" computer, that would be something for lawyers to settle in court, not here. Robert. Besides the small fact that such limitations would be against the law in most countries. "OEM" Copies of Microsoft windows are sold for use on one machine and can't (legally) be transferred to another machine. The question then becomes what constitutes another machine. *If you change enough hardware, the software believes it is on a different machine and thus, that the license has been invalidated. *It has always been my assumption that if you changed the motherboard without the software believing that it was installed on a new machine, it would only be a matter of luck. *That assumption could be wrong. In general, I'm not interested in responding to snotty demands that begin with "Please state the exact paragraph." *To copy your rude style, please cite the law that you believe would make Microsoft OEM licenses illegal. *Since you've said this is true for "most countries," I'm expecting a response with dozens of links citing all the relevant laws in different countries. Robert. |
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New CPU Required Driver Re-Install - Windows Media Player LoadingSlow
* Robert Myers:
Please state the exact paragraph in the Ms EULA where it says that changing the mobo invalidates your license. Besides the small fact that such limitations would be against the law in most countries. "OEM" Copies of Microsoft windows are sold for use on one machine and can't (legally) be transferred to another machine. Righ, "machine". Not "mainboard". In general, I'm not interested in responding to snotty demands that begin with "Please state the exact paragraph." So in short it's a problem if someone asks for references for your claims. To copy your rude style, please cite the law that you believe would make Microsoft OEM licenses illegal. Reading isn't obviously your best asset as I never said the OEM license would be illegal. I said that such a paragraph is against the law in several countries (that's btw why the EULA says that local law prevails). For example, in Germany the EULA is just irrelevant as it isn't legal binding for most consumers that just buy their copy of Windows from one of the thousands of dealers out there as in Germany buying software is an act of sales like any other, you buy a software (a package of a CDROM with software on it, a manual and what else comes with it) and not just a right to use (a license). A consumer buying Windows has a contract with the dealer he buys his Windows from but no contract with Microsoft. Even more, since the EULA usually isn't part of this contract it is just void. Microsoft can write whatever they want in it, it doesn't matter. I can buy a computer with Windows and then keep the computer and sell Windows separately if I don't need it. I also can use my Windows copies on any system or mobo or whatever I like. Besides that, the German Federal Court of Justice has declared the forcement of dealers to bind Windows OEM sales to hardware illegal on July 6th, 2000 (Az. I ZR 244/97). So you can buy Windows OEM legally without the need to purchase any hardware together with it. The law is similar in a lot of European countries. Of course I'm aware that in the USA Microsoft can dictate whatever they want. Benjamin |
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On Jan 2, 2:11*pm, Benjamin Gawert wrote:
* Robert Myers: Please state the exact paragraph in the Ms EULA where it says that changing the mobo invalidates your license. Besides the small fact that such limitations would be against the law in most countries. "OEM" Copies of Microsoft windows are sold for use on one machine and can't (legally) be transferred to another machine. Righ, "machine". Not "mainboard". In general, I'm not interested in responding to snotty demands that begin with "Please state the exact paragraph." So in short it's a problem if someone asks for references for your claims.. To copy your rude style, please cite the law that you believe would make Microsoft OEM licenses illegal. Reading isn't obviously your best asset as I never said the OEM license would be illegal. In effect, you did. I said that most of the licenses sold would make changing the mainboard illegal. Most of the licenses sold are OEM licenses. If the mainboard isn't "the machine," what is? The case and the power supply? I said that such a paragraph is against the law in several countries (that's btw why the EULA says that local law prevails). For example, in Germany the EULA is just irrelevant as it isn't legal binding for most consumers that just buy their copy of Windows from one of the thousands of dealers out there as in Germany buying software is an act of sales like any other, you buy a software (a package of a CDROM with software on it, a manual and what else comes with it) and not just a right to use (a license). A consumer buying Windows has a contract with the dealer he buys his Windows from but no contract with Microsoft. Even more, since the EULA usually isn't part of this contract it is just void. Microsoft can write whatever they want in it, it doesn't matter. I can buy a computer with Windows and then keep the computer and sell Windows separately if I don't need it. I also can use my Windows copies on any system or mobo or whatever I like. Besides that, the German Federal Court of Justice has declared the forcement of dealers to bind Windows OEM sales to hardware illegal on July 6th, 2000 (Az. I ZR 244/97). So you can buy Windows OEM legally without the need to purchase any hardware together with it. The law is similar in a lot of European countries. Of course I'm aware that in the USA Microsoft can dictate whatever they want. So, what you really meant to say is that it's more complicated in Europe. That's nice to know. Explain that to the nice people in Redmond when Windows Genuine Advantage says the software has been transferred to a new machine. Robert. |
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On Jan 2, 11:02*pm, Robert Myers wrote:
So, what you really meant to say is that it's more complicated in Europe. *That's nice to know. Explain that to the nice people in Redmond when Windows Genuine Advantage says the software has been transferred to a new machine. One more thing. If you have issues, find a therapist. Or do whatever you want. Attract the attention of the police by vandalizing property or setting fires or whatever else comes into your sick brain. Leave me alone, dude. If you're into beating people up, you've picked the wrong victim. Robert. |
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New CPU Required Driver Re-Install - Windows Media Player LoadingSlow
* Robert Myers:
Reading isn't obviously your best asset as I never said the OEM license would be illegal. In effect, you did. Please have someone explain the meaning of "besides the small fact that such limitations would be against the law in most countries". Anyone with at least some basic reading comprehension should know the difference between "limitation" and "license". An illegal limitation doesn't make a license illegal. If the mainboard isn't "the machine," what is? The case and the power supply? The machine is the summary of all it's parts (gfx, mobo, case, psu, whatever). It might be your belief that the mobo is the machine but reality is different. You can change whatever you want on your system without invalidating the license. So, what you really meant to say is that it's more complicated in Europe. Maybe. But try to buy an OEM Windows in the US without buying any hardware, or to legally transfer your already paid OEM Windows on a new computer. Besides the fact that all you get is the right to use the software (a license). Thanks, but I think I prefer the more complicated way where software manufacturers can't dictate anything they like, where I can buy software without the need to buy hardware I don't need, and where I can do with the software I paid for whatever I want. Explain that to the nice people in Redmond when Windows Genuine Advantage says the software has been transferred to a new machine. I don't give a **** what anyone in Redmond says, the US is not the center of the world and US law is not valid in Europe, period. And in the mentioned countries WGA doesn't say anything when you transfer your Windows to another machine as it's totally legal there. BTDT probably a dozen times, as have probably a few millions of people in Europe. I still have a Windowsxp Pro OEM copy, bought when XP came out in 2001 and of course without any hardware, and this copy probably moved over maybe 12 times from one computer to another. completely legal. Benjamin |
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