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Intel G33 motherboard's AHCI not detecting hard disks
What could cause it? PC is a HP m9088hk. The SATA has 3 modes: IDE, AHCI and RAID. Now only IDE mode detected the 250G hard disk! The SATA DVD burner was not affected, working both in IDE and AHCI modes. The SATA cable seemed to be fine as well. -- @~@ Remain silent. Nothing from soldiers and magicians is real! / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and farces be with you! /( _ )\ (Fedora 19 i686) Linux 3.11.2-201.fc19.i686 ^ ^ 21:12:02 up 2 days 17:55 0 users load average: 0.11 0.07 0.06 不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_...sub_addressesa |
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Intel G33 motherboard's AHCI not detecting hard disks
Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
What could cause it? PC is a HP m9088hk. The SATA has 3 modes: IDE, AHCI and RAID. Now only IDE mode detected the 250G hard disk! The SATA DVD burner was not affected, working both in IDE and AHCI modes. The SATA cable seemed to be fine as well. Well, that's a new one. Other people have seen such things. It's possible there is a correspondence between "flaky disk" and "AHCI not detected", in which case you'd want to put the controller back in IDE mode and run a hard drive diagnostic. And see if the drive is healthy or not. While not mentioned in this thread, you also have the option of "Clearing CMOS" (with computer unplugged). If all the ports responded uniformly, then I'd blame the hard drive. Otherwise, I'd suspect a corrupt CMOS value, not detected by the simple minded checksum used to protect those bytes. http://www.sevenforums.com/hardware-...ed-bios-2.html The evidence almost hints to me, that the BIOS code may be doing more disk checking when in AHCI mode, than when in IDE mode. If SMART is enabled at BIOS level, it might even be possible for the BIOS to issue "SMART short test" or similar command, if they wanted. I think there are SMART diagnostic commands in the ATA/ATAPI command set, which would not normally be used except by Seatools or the like. You don't really want to be using a built-in diagnostic, if it causes an unacceptable delay to the user (user doesn't know what is happening while a disk test is running). So if the BIOS was doing that, and not just reading the SMART stats, the test duration would have to be very short. Paul |
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Intel G33 motherboard's AHCI not detecting hard disks
On 5/10/2013 12:29 AM, Paul wrote:
Now only IDE mode detected the 250G hard disk! The SATA DVD burner was not affected, working both in IDE and AHCI modes. The SATA cable seemed to be fine as well. Well, that's a new one. If all the ports responded uniformly, then I'd blame the hard drive. The 250G hard disk is a Seagate. Maybe I should swap in other brands and/or newer generation ones. Otherwise, I'd suspect a corrupt CMOS value, not detected by the simple minded checksum used to protect those bytes. http://www.sevenforums.com/hardware-...ed-bios-2.html The evidence almost hints to me, that the BIOS code may be doing more disk checking when in AHCI mode, than when in IDE mode. If SMART is enabled at BIOS level, it might even be possible for the BIOS to issue "SMART short test" or similar command, if they wanted. I think there are SMART diagnostic Let me disable SMART and try again! Tomorrow... I should also try removing all PCI/PCIe adapters. -- @~@ Remain silent. Nothing from soldiers and magicians is real! / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and farces be with you! /( _ )\ (Fedora 19 i686) Linux 3.11.2-201.fc19.i686 ^ ^ 00:51:02 up 1:17 0 users load average: 0.32 0.08 0.07 不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_...sub_addressesa |
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Intel G33 motherboard's AHCI not detecting hard disks
BTW, if you could remember, I had complained about a motherboard losing BIOS settings all of a sudden in this newsgroup. It's that motherboard! On 5/10/2013 12:29 AM, Paul wrote: Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: Well, that's a new one. -- @~@ Remain silent. Nothing from soldiers and magicians is real! / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and farces be with you! /( _ )\ (Fedora 19 i686) Linux 3.11.2-201.fc19.i686 ^ ^ 00:51:02 up 1:17 0 users load average: 0.32 0.08 0.07 不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_...sub_addressesa |
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Intel G33 motherboard's AHCI not detecting hard disks
On Sat, 05 Oct 2013 00:58:16 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang"
wrote: BTW, if you could remember, I had complained about a motherboard losing BIOS settings all of a sudden in this newsgroup. It's that motherboard! Bad thing. Got a BIOSTAR that did that, except, rather than occasions, every time it booted up. Nice board in all respects as advertised/spec'd out, severely discounted for new from a company with something of a long-standing reputation, dating back with computer building hobby community, and now recently out of business. Only thing lacking was it was too good to be true. I did, however, make a point of filing a credit-card dispute against how they handled return shipping costs;- stupidly while doing it, as it's petty pinching stuff, that my credit card absorbs as a courtesy to good-standing customers, under a certain monetary limit precluding the retailer's involvement. American customer service is a thing of the past for many as consolidation in the global market probably excludes hiring at that level of profit, considering anyone worth the salary and particularly competent (or trustworthy as I saw it). I wouldn't want a dead BIOS on a new MB from a premier seller, NewEgg, say, and would raise hell if they sold me one for new pricing and refused to absorb my shipping for something blatantly wrong. People whine a lot, for a lack of technicality, if not outright abusive, so storefronts are harder and careful about returns. Run it for a 24/7 computer, never turned off while it lasts;- they all more or less exhibit degradation over time, quirks, if not becoming downright mean. Had a MB once that ruined, burnt out drives and power supplies. BIOS is way cool, comparatively;- bad capacitors dragging down other components into oblivion, enough of that will make one hate anything but reasonable MSI/Gigabyte solid-state capacitors. I've mixed feelings about Intel. They can tend to be modest, no-frills and somewhat outdated for a broader scope of available features, (deep sale/discounted), if often placed at prices well above the norm where more contemporarily deserving of notice. |
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Intel G33 motherboard's AHCI not detecting hard disks
On 6/10/2013 12:48 AM, Flasherly wrote:
I've mixed feelings about Intel. They can tend to be modest, no-frills and somewhat outdated for a broader scope of available features, (deep sale/discounted), if often placed at prices well above the norm where more contemporarily deserving of notice. That HP Pavilion m9088hk PC was using an Asus motherboard. I think we cannot blame Intel chipsets for BIOS problems. -- @~@ Remain silent. Nothing from soldiers and magicians is real! / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! /( _ )\ May the Force and farces be with you! ^ ^ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) Linux 2.6.39.3 不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_...sub_addressesa |
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Intel G33 motherboard's AHCI not detecting hard disks
On Tue, 08 Oct 2013 00:07:54 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang"
That HP Pavilion m9088hk PC was using an Asus motherboard. I think we cannot blame Intel chipsets for BIOS problems. Must have misread you saying it was an Intel board, straight across. With an Intel processor, it'll be licensed for Intel chipset support, in part;- nope, don't believe offhand I've ever run into a MB that booted up to a BIOS screen Intel designed and implimented. Not sure, why either, AWARD or the likes of a few others have an effective corner on BIOS chips variously implmented on MB brands. |
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Intel G33 motherboard's AHCI not detecting hard disks
On 8/10/2013 3:57 AM, Flasherly wrote:
Must have misread you saying it was an Intel board, straight across. With an Intel processor, it'll be licensed for Intel chipset support, It's natural to assume companies like HP & Dell would use motherboards from companies other than Intel. in part;- nope, don't believe offhand I've ever run into a MB that booted up to a BIOS screen Intel designed and implimented. Not sure, why either, AWARD or the likes of a few others have an effective corner on BIOS chips variously implmented on MB brands. Sometimes, I thought there was a naughty ghost inside that motherboard. It's too weird.... -- @~@ Remain silent. Nothing from soldiers and magicians is real! / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and farces be with you! /( _ )\ (Fedora 19 i686) Linux 3.11.2-201.fc19.i686 ^ ^ 17:51:02 up 2 days 20:26 0 users load average: 0.11 0.53 0.34 不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_...sub_addressesa |
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Intel G33 motherboard's AHCI not detecting hard disks
On Tue, 08 Oct 2013 18:05:24 +0800, "Mr. Man-wai Chang"
wrote: Sometimes, I thought there was a naughty ghost inside that motherboard. It's too weird.... Not really. Between a dual core x4200 AMD and the MB's chipsets, including video support chip on my multimedia computer, the level of processing going on and subsequent heat. . .'weirdness,' knock on wood, I suspect, is just a matter of time, now, after going on three years heavy usage. All things considered, the price of such a computer, as well as rebuilding a replacement, though, is very reasonable. So is being accustomed to a five years computer life expectancy, except I've never had a computer, such as it is, capable of heavy loads and degrees of program processing I'm now used to in a manner of course for multimedia. |
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Intel G33 motherboard's AHCI not detecting hard disks
On 8/10/2013 7:25 PM, Flasherly wrote:
All things considered, the price of such a computer, as well as rebuilding a replacement, though, is very reasonable. So is being accustomed to a five years computer life expectancy, except I've never had a computer, such as it is, capable of heavy loads and degrees of program processing I'm now used to in a manner of course for multimedia. I was/am still being puzzled by the mysterious loss of CMOS data in that motherboard. I had replaced the power supply with a Antec 430D as well as the CR2032 battery, didn't help. Note that it didn't happen frequently, just a few times. I do/did assume that the user didn't play tricks on me. -- @~@ Remain silent. Nothing from soldiers and magicians is real! / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! May the Force and farces be with you! /( _ )\ (Fedora 19 i686) Linux 3.11.2-201.fc19.i686 ^ ^ 23:33:01 up 3 days 1:03 0 users load average: 0.00 0.01 0.05 不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_...sub_addressesa |
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