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  #1  
Old June 23rd 03, 12:27 PM
Derek
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Default Router Recommendation

I need a router for a small network running windows 2000 server. I am using
active directory and dhcp to allocate IP addresses. I want to get an ADSL
Modem Router to be able to connect to the internet and share it to the rest
of the network.

Currently I've got a cheap and nasty offering from Mentor that simply isn't
up to the job. Does anybody have any recommendation for a good but not too
expensive router that can carry out what I want.

Incidentally, I will be using a dynamic rather than a static IP address
assigned by my ISP, if that is relevant.

Derek


  #2  
Old June 23rd 03, 01:30 PM
John Smith
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I would go for a Netgear or a Linksys. Both are very good products and both
come in a variety of models that offer different numbers of ports.

Both will do the job that you have in mind. I am not sure if either has a
model out yet that is also a combined VPN Gateway but, if so, that is
something you might want to consider also.

I have had a Linksys for a few years - the first few had dodgy power
adaptors but Linksys replaced them and apparently have a different model out
now. I will upgrade once they have a Wireless one combined with VPN Gateway
on the market. A friend uses a Wireless Netgear and it is also a good
product.

Take your choice.

You might want to go to http://www.practicallynetworked.com which will offer
you good advice and good reviews of the latest models.

J.


"Derek" wrote in message
...
I need a router for a small network running windows 2000 server. I am

using
active directory and dhcp to allocate IP addresses. I want to get an ADSL
Modem Router to be able to connect to the internet and share it to the

rest
of the network.

Currently I've got a cheap and nasty offering from Mentor that simply

isn't
up to the job. Does anybody have any recommendation for a good but not too
expensive router that can carry out what I want.

Incidentally, I will be using a dynamic rather than a static IP address
assigned by my ISP, if that is relevant.

Derek




  #3  
Old June 23rd 03, 10:46 PM
Derek
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Well, I picked up a Linksys Router with 4 ports today. However, when I
examined it more closely at home I realised that it didn't include an ADSL
modem.... I now have to go crawling back to the shop and try and exchange it
for one that does.....

I do have a modem but it doesn't allow the router to connect to it so is not
of any use..

Derek

"Derek" wrote in message
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Thanks for the advice. I have just heard some good things about Linksys

from
somebody else....

Derek



  #4  
Old June 24th 03, 12:58 AM
John Smith
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Derek,

Sounds like you need one of these:

http://www.linksys.com/Products/prod...id=35&prid=415 -
wireless version

http://www.linksys.com/Products/prod...cid=29&prid=20 - 4 port
version

http://www.linksys.com/Products/prod...id=155&scid=29 - 8 port
version


J.

"Derek" wrote in message
...
Well, I picked up a Linksys Router with 4 ports today. However, when I
examined it more closely at home I realised that it didn't include an ADSL
modem.... I now have to go crawling back to the shop and try and exchange

it
for one that does.....

I do have a modem but it doesn't allow the router to connect to it so is

not
of any use..

Derek

"Derek" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the advice. I have just heard some good things about Linksys

from
somebody else....

Derek





  #5  
Old June 24th 03, 12:24 PM
Derek
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Problem sorted now. I've picked up a new ADSL modem with an Ethernet RJ45
connection and am going to set it up now.

One other point. My Linksys router can use DHCP to allocate IP addresses to
my PC's but so does Windows Server which I'm currently using. What is
preferable; to disable DHCP in the router or in Windows Server??

Derek

"John Smith" wrote in message
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Oh hang on, did I mis-read your post?

The ADSL/Cable Routers don't actually include an ADSL or Cable Modem but
merely the means to connect your home network - i.e. several PCs - up to a
ADSL or Cable Modem.

Your ISP usually provides you with a particular make and model of ADSL or
Cable Modem that works on their network. Or recommends a particular Make

and
Model for you to go and buy.

So, you have a Cable Modem connected to your ISP Connection and then a CAT

5
Cable going from the Cable Modem to your ADSL/Cable Router. Or you can

often
use a USB Cable nowadays also.

The ADSL/Cable Router allows you to connect several PCs up to share your
Cable Modem connection and many provide other services such as DHCP,
Firewall, Network Address Translation, a DMZ and some also provide a Print
Manager and/or a VPN Gateway.

Hope this helps,


J.




  #6  
Old June 24th 03, 01:13 PM
John Smith
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Use the router.


"Derek" wrote in message
...
Problem sorted now. I've picked up a new ADSL modem with an Ethernet RJ45
connection and am going to set it up now.

One other point. My Linksys router can use DHCP to allocate IP addresses

to
my PC's but so does Windows Server which I'm currently using. What is
preferable; to disable DHCP in the router or in Windows Server??

Derek

"John Smith" wrote in message
...
Oh hang on, did I mis-read your post?

The ADSL/Cable Routers don't actually include an ADSL or Cable Modem but
merely the means to connect your home network - i.e. several PCs - up to

a
ADSL or Cable Modem.

Your ISP usually provides you with a particular make and model of ADSL

or
Cable Modem that works on their network. Or recommends a particular Make

and
Model for you to go and buy.

So, you have a Cable Modem connected to your ISP Connection and then a

CAT
5
Cable going from the Cable Modem to your ADSL/Cable Router. Or you can

often
use a USB Cable nowadays also.

The ADSL/Cable Router allows you to connect several PCs up to share your
Cable Modem connection and many provide other services such as DHCP,
Firewall, Network Address Translation, a DMZ and some also provide a

Print
Manager and/or a VPN Gateway.

Hope this helps,


J.






  #7  
Old June 24th 03, 04:38 PM
Derek
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This just gets worse... I've installed the DLink Ethernet modem (dsl-300G+)
and have connected this to the Linksys router which is currently connected
to 2 pc's, one of which acts as the server.

However, this is as far as I get. I've now got a modem that is impossible to
contact in any way (although the appropriate lights are on) and a router
that I can only sometimes access through the browser but only too one
screen.

On top of this I now have a modem that insists on acting as a DHCP server.
I'm confused and haven't got a clue as to what to do next... Presently I
have rigged up my old modem to my client PC to get back on the net..

Any help appreciated even more than before...

Derek
"John Smith" wrote in message
...
Use the router.


"Derek" wrote in message



  #8  
Old June 24th 03, 10:20 PM
callsignviper
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"Derek" wrote in message
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This just gets worse... I've installed the DLink Ethernet modem

(dsl-300G+)
and have connected this to the Linksys router which is currently connected
to 2 pc's, one of which acts as the server.

However, this is as far as I get. I've now got a modem that is impossible

to
contact in any way (although the appropriate lights are on) and a router
that I can only sometimes access through the browser but only too one
screen.

On top of this I now have a modem that insists on acting as a DHCP server.
I'm confused and haven't got a clue as to what to do next... Presently I
have rigged up my old modem to my client PC to get back on the net..

Any help appreciated even more than before...

Derek
"John Smith" wrote in message
...
Use the router.


"Derek" wrote in message




Suggestion: Go to www.dslreports.com . Lots of information there on what
you are trying to do. You might want to try a search on "provisioning" as I
have a suspicion that's at least part of your problem.

Does your router have the ability to clone a MAC address? If you don't
understand that try the above link for an explanation. No offense intended
if you do understand the question.

I would try to explain what you probably need to do but I might only succeed
in confusing you further.

HTH.


--
callsignviper

The truth is out there. You just have to look in the right places and ask
the right questions.


  #9  
Old June 25th 03, 01:56 AM
Roland the Gunslinger
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"Derek" wrote in message
...
This just gets worse... I've installed the DLink Ethernet modem

(dsl-300G+)
and have connected this to the Linksys router which is currently connected
to 2 pc's, one of which acts as the server.

However, this is as far as I get. I've now got a modem that is impossible

to
contact in any way (although the appropriate lights are on) and a router
that I can only sometimes access through the browser but only too one
screen.

On top of this I now have a modem that insists on acting as a DHCP server.
I'm confused and haven't got a clue as to what to do next... Presently I
have rigged up my old modem to my client PC to get back on the net..

Any help appreciated even more than before...

Derek
"John Smith" wrote in message
...
Use the router.


"Derek" wrote in message





I can't find anything on the 300g+ at the dlink website. Is it a
modem/router or just a modem? If it's a combo then you are probably double
NATing with the Linksys, which will cause problems. If it is acting as a
DHCP server then it could be a router combo. If that is the case , then all
you need is a switch or hub.





  #10  
Old June 25th 03, 11:11 AM
Derek
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I've managed to get the modem working by connecting it directly to the NIC
card on a standalone PC. I think the problem is to do with Windows 2000
Server so it looks like I'll have to do a bit of digging around with that to
see what's up...

Derek

"Roland the Gunslinger" wrote in message
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"Derek" wrote in message





I can't find anything on the 300g+ at the dlink website. Is it a
modem/router or just a modem? If it's a combo then you are probably double
NATing with the Linksys, which will cause problems. If it is acting as a
DHCP server then it could be a router combo. If that is the case , then

all
you need is a switch or hub.







 




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