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separate line in jack ?
is there any creative card that would give me the option to
record that also has a separate line in jack ? In other words, I want the "what u hear" capability -- the option to record what you're listening to, as well as a separate jack for the line in. If not, is there a comparable sound cardfrom another vendor that would provide both of these options? I need a good line in because I use speech recognition software with an MAudio preamp which feeds into the line in jack. TIA Louise |
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separate line in jack ?
"louise" wrote in message ... is there any creative card that would give me the option to record that also has a separate line in jack ? Separate from microphone? Possibly not; I don't know. Or did you mean separate from something else? Current Sound Blasters use the same jack for microphone and line in, but they let you choose which one it is at any given time. In other words, I want the "what u hear" capability -- the option to record what you're listening to, as well as a separate jack for the line in. Many sound cards allow that. I just looked at 3 computers (one with an ancient Sound Blaster PCI 16, one with a Sound Blaster Live! 24, and one with sound on the motherboard) and they all did. Most of them call it "Stereo Mix" instead of "What U Hear" and it's hidden on the recording menu until you enable it. See: www.covingtoninnovations.com/audio/recradio |
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separate line in jack ?
mc wrote:
"louise" wrote in message ... is there any creative card that would give me the option to record that also has a separate line in jack ? Separate from microphone? Possibly not; I don't know. Or did you mean separate from something else? Current Sound Blasters use the same jack for microphone and line in, but they let you choose which one it is at any given time. In other words, I want the "what u hear" capability -- the option to record what you're listening to, as well as a separate jack for the line in. Many sound cards allow that. I just looked at 3 computers (one with an ancient Sound Blaster PCI 16, one with a Sound Blaster Live! 24, and one with sound on the motherboard) and they all did. Most of them call it "Stereo Mix" instead of "What U Hear" and it's hidden on the recording menu until you enable it. See: www.covingtoninnovations.com/audio/recradio Thanks for your help and the link. That's a great site for some of the info I'm trying to figure out. Louise |
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separate line in jack ?
Can you tell me a little more precisely what it is that you need to do? I
can probably help you figure it out. |
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mc wrote:
Can you tell me a little more precisely what it is that you need to do? I can probably help you figure it out. Thanks a lot - and thanks for your patience in reading the long description below. Audigy 2ZS card and Win XP Pro - Asus motherboard, P4, lots of memory and processor power. I have a handheld microphone which goes into an M Audio preamp (called Audio Buddy). This plugs into the "line in" jack. I would like to be able to also plug a headset/microphone directly into the soundcard or with a USB sound pod. The reason I want both is that I would like to be able to dictate from either the handheld through the line in, OR the headset microphone. I use Dragon Naturally Speaking speech recognition software. You have to create a new user (profile) for each dictation source used because you have to "train" the program to recognize your speech. The program will not recognize another input source other than the line in so that it will not allow me to create a second user with a different input source. The surround mixer does change the record input from the line mix to microphone but it still doesn't seem to have any effect upon the program's ability to recognize another input source. I tried using a USB sound pod for my second input source and the same thing happened. This did work in the Windows recorder but it did not work in Dragon NaturallySpeaking. It is very hard to get good tech support on this issue because the preamp isn't "supported" and the speech recognition people know nothing about it and simply say it is not supported. Creative doesn't really know a lot about Dragon NaturallySpeaking and perhaps not very much about the Audio Buddy either. There is some weird interaction between the Dragon software and the Creative software -- at least that's my latest theory. Even when I use the USB sound pod, the creative software is still loaded. Another piece of information if this would shed any light: whenever I start Dragon NaturallySpeaking, it automatically puts an X on the line-in. In other words, when you start the program, it sets itself up for microphone plugged into mic in jack. When I checked with their tech support, this is how the software is supposed to operate. So, whenever I do load the speech recognition software, I also have to go into the surround mixer and take the x out of the line in so that my present set up can work. The headset and the USB pod work perfectly on my portable, so I know that those two pieces of hardware are fine. I have also done a repair install of the Dragon software and it made no difference; I don't think the program installation is corrupted. Everyone I speak to who knows the Dragon software at all has a "hunch" that it has something to do with the fact that the sound card has a mix for the input and that it confuses the Dragon software setup.. But no one is sure. The other issue about "what u hear" is that I do a fair amount of recording of music off the net - therefore, I want that capability as well - but I gather most soundcards actually have that. I hope this is at least a little clear and if you have any suggestions, I certainly would appreciate it. Thanks again. Louise |
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separate line in jack ?
OK, so, in summary: You have 2 microphones. One is an ordinary computer
microphone on a headset. The other microphone works through a preamplifier and goes to "line in" on the sound card. So you need a sound card on which "line in" and "microphone" are 2 different jacks. That is a reasonable request, but I don't know which current sound cards have that setup. Sound Blaster Live 24 defininitely does not. Sound Blaster PCI 16 does, but it's probably obsolete by now. I have one of each. Can others chime in with suggestions? I know that with Sound Blaster products, you can go to www.creative.com, under support, and read the instruction leaflet for each card. |
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Dear Louise,
One more thing. Please contact me by e-mail, m c at u g a dot e d u if you can't find a card that meets your needs. I have a Sound Blaster 16 PCI that might suit you. Thanks. mc |
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separate line in jack ?
One last thought. You can have 2 soundcards in the same computer and select
between them in software. I know that Asus sound-on-the-motherbard and Sound Blaster Live 24 are compatible. "louise" wrote in message ... mc wrote: Can you tell me a little more precisely what it is that you need to do? I can probably help you figure it out. Thanks a lot - and thanks for your patience in reading the long description below. Audigy 2ZS card and Win XP Pro - Asus motherboard, P4, lots of memory and processor power. I have a handheld microphone which goes into an M Audio preamp (called Audio Buddy). This plugs into the "line in" jack. I would like to be able to also plug a headset/microphone directly into the soundcard or with a USB sound pod. The reason I want both is that I would like to be able to dictate from either the handheld through the line in, OR the headset microphone. I use Dragon Naturally Speaking speech recognition software. You have to create a new user (profile) for each dictation source used because you have to "train" the program to recognize your speech. The program will not recognize another input source other than the line in so that it will not allow me to create a second user with a different input source. The surround mixer does change the record input from the line mix to microphone but it still doesn't seem to have any effect upon the program's ability to recognize another input source. I tried using a USB sound pod for my second input source and the same thing happened. This did work in the Windows recorder but it did not work in Dragon NaturallySpeaking. It is very hard to get good tech support on this issue because the preamp isn't "supported" and the speech recognition people know nothing about it and simply say it is not supported. Creative doesn't really know a lot about Dragon NaturallySpeaking and perhaps not very much about the Audio Buddy either. There is some weird interaction between the Dragon software and the Creative software -- at least that's my latest theory. Even when I use the USB sound pod, the creative software is still loaded. Another piece of information if this would shed any light: whenever I start Dragon NaturallySpeaking, it automatically puts an X on the line-in. In other words, when you start the program, it sets itself up for microphone plugged into mic in jack. When I checked with their tech support, this is how the software is supposed to operate. So, whenever I do load the speech recognition software, I also have to go into the surround mixer and take the x out of the line in so that my present set up can work. The headset and the USB pod work perfectly on my portable, so I know that those two pieces of hardware are fine. I have also done a repair install of the Dragon software and it made no difference; I don't think the program installation is corrupted. Everyone I speak to who knows the Dragon software at all has a "hunch" that it has something to do with the fact that the sound card has a mix for the input and that it confuses the Dragon software setup.. But no one is sure. The other issue about "what u hear" is that I do a fair amount of recording of music off the net - therefore, I want that capability as well - but I gather most soundcards actually have that. I hope this is at least a little clear and if you have any suggestions, I certainly would appreciate it. Thanks again. Louise |
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"mc" wrote in message
.. . One last thought. You can have 2 soundcards in the same computer and select between them in software. I know that Asus sound-on-the-motherbard and Sound Blaster Live 24 are compatible. "louise" wrote in message ... mc wrote: Can you tell me a little more precisely what it is that you need to do? I can probably help you figure it out. Thanks a lot - and thanks for your patience in reading the long description below. Audigy 2ZS card and Win XP Pro - Asus motherboard, P4, lots of memory and processor power. I have a handheld microphone which goes into an M Audio preamp (called Audio Buddy). This plugs into the "line in" jack. I would like to be able to also plug a headset/microphone directly into the soundcard or with a USB sound pod. The reason I want both is that I would like to be able to dictate from either the handheld through the line in, OR the headset microphone. I use Dragon Naturally Speaking speech recognition software. You have to create a new user (profile) for each dictation source used because you have to "train" the program to recognize your speech. The program will not recognize another input source other than the line in so that it will not allow me to create a second user with a different input source. The surround mixer does change the record input from the line mix to microphone but it still doesn't seem to have any effect upon the program's ability to recognize another input source. I tried using a USB sound pod for my second input source and the same thing happened. This did work in the Windows recorder but it did not work in Dragon NaturallySpeaking. It is very hard to get good tech support on this issue because the preamp isn't "supported" and the speech recognition people know nothing about it and simply say it is not supported. Creative doesn't really know a lot about Dragon NaturallySpeaking and perhaps not very much about the Audio Buddy either. There is some weird interaction between the Dragon software and the Creative software -- at least that's my latest theory. Even when I use the USB sound pod, the creative software is still loaded. Another piece of information if this would shed any light: whenever I start Dragon NaturallySpeaking, it automatically puts an X on the line-in. In other words, when you start the program, it sets itself up for microphone plugged into mic in jack. When I checked with their tech support, this is how the software is supposed to operate. So, whenever I do load the speech recognition software, I also have to go into the surround mixer and take the x out of the line in so that my present set up can work. The headset and the USB pod work perfectly on my portable, so I know that those two pieces of hardware are fine. I have also done a repair install of the Dragon software and it made no difference; I don't think the program installation is corrupted. Everyone I speak to who knows the Dragon software at all has a "hunch" that it has something to do with the fact that the sound card has a mix for the input and that it confuses the Dragon software setup.. But no one is sure. The other issue about "what u hear" is that I do a fair amount of recording of music off the net - therefore, I want that capability as well - but I gather most soundcards actually have that. I hope this is at least a little clear and if you have any suggestions, I certainly would appreciate it. Thanks again. Louise AFAIK every card I've owned have separate Mic and Line-In jacks. My SB Live and Audig2 do for sure. The problem seems to be Dragon only wanting to use the Mic port. Go into the Windows(not Creative) Sound Control Panel and see if you can select the mixer device you want to use, before running Dragon. I've not used a USB sound device but hopefully there will be 2. Does the pod show having a Mic port? I've read the post 6 time and I'm still not sure I understand exactly what's going on but I'll give some info that may help you experiment. Wave and MIDI are digital sound on the computers bus. All of the others are physical ports to the sound card. Analog mix are hardware ports and What You Hear is Analog Mix + Wave. It might help understanding if you could post a link for the pods website. |
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"T Shadow" wrote in message
... AFAIK every card I've owned have separate Mic and Line-In jacks. My SB Live and Audig2 do for sure. Sound Blaster Live 24 does not; nor (probably) does Audigy. They started doubling up Line In with Mic when they needed more jacks for surround sound speakers. The problem seems to be Dragon only wanting to use the Mic port. Go into the Windows(not Creative) Sound Control Panel and see if you can select the mixer device you want to use, before running Dragon. I've not used a USB sound device but hopefully there will be 2. Does the pod show having a Mic port? I've read the post 6 time and I'm still not sure I understand exactly what's going on but I'll give some info that may help you experiment. Wave and MIDI are digital sound on the computers bus. All of the others are physical ports to the sound card. Analog mix are hardware ports and What You Hear is Analog Mix + Wave. It might help understanding if you could post a link for the pods website. |
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