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separate line in jack ?
"mc" wrote in message news "T Shadow" wrote in message ... AFAIK every card I've owned have separate Mic and Line-In jacks. My SB Live and Audig2 do for sure. Sound Blaster Live 24 does not; nor (probably) does Audigy. They started doubling up Line In with Mic when they needed more jacks for surround sound speakers. Page 15-16 http://ccftp.creative.com/manualdn/M...97/English.pdf |
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separate line in jack ?
"T Shadow" wrote in message
. .. "mc" wrote in message news "T Shadow" wrote in message ... AFAIK every card I've owned have separate Mic and Line-In jacks. My SB Live and Audig2 do for sure. Sound Blaster Live 24 does not; nor (probably) does Audigy. They started doubling up Line In with Mic when they needed more jacks for surround sound speakers. Page 15-16 http://ccftp.creative.com/manualdn/M...97/English.pdf BTW the Audigy2 has a separate PCI slot cover for the game port. I'm not just guessing, I'm looking at the back of the computer now. The SB Live also has a separate cover. It's good to know about Creative doing that on some models though. |
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separate line in jack ?
T Shadow wrote:
"mc" wrote in message .. . One last thought. You can have 2 soundcards in the same computer and select between them in software. I know that Asus sound-on-the-motherbard and Sound Blaster Live 24 are compatible. "louise" wrote in message ... mc wrote: Can you tell me a little more precisely what it is that you need to do? I can probably help you figure it out. Thanks a lot - and thanks for your patience in reading the long description below. Audigy 2ZS card and Win XP Pro - Asus motherboard, P4, lots of memory and processor power. I have a handheld microphone which goes into an M Audio preamp (called Audio Buddy). This plugs into the "line in" jack. I would like to be able to also plug a headset/microphone directly into the soundcard or with a USB sound pod. The reason I want both is that I would like to be able to dictate from either the handheld through the line in, OR the headset microphone. I use Dragon Naturally Speaking speech recognition software. You have to create a new user (profile) for each dictation source used because you have to "train" the program to recognize your speech. The program will not recognize another input source other than the line in so that it will not allow me to create a second user with a different input source. The surround mixer does change the record input from the line mix to microphone but it still doesn't seem to have any effect upon the program's ability to recognize another input source. I tried using a USB sound pod for my second input source and the same thing happened. This did work in the Windows recorder but it did not work in Dragon NaturallySpeaking. It is very hard to get good tech support on this issue because the preamp isn't "supported" and the speech recognition people know nothing about it and simply say it is not supported. Creative doesn't really know a lot about Dragon NaturallySpeaking and perhaps not very much about the Audio Buddy either. There is some weird interaction between the Dragon software and the Creative software -- at least that's my latest theory. Even when I use the USB sound pod, the creative software is still loaded. Another piece of information if this would shed any light: whenever I start Dragon NaturallySpeaking, it automatically puts an X on the line-in. In other words, when you start the program, it sets itself up for microphone plugged into mic in jack. When I checked with their tech support, this is how the software is supposed to operate. So, whenever I do load the speech recognition software, I also have to go into the surround mixer and take the x out of the line in so that my present set up can work. The headset and the USB pod work perfectly on my portable, so I know that those two pieces of hardware are fine. I have also done a repair install of the Dragon software and it made no difference; I don't think the program installation is corrupted. Everyone I speak to who knows the Dragon software at all has a "hunch" that it has something to do with the fact that the sound card has a mix for the input and that it confuses the Dragon software setup.. But no one is sure. The other issue about "what u hear" is that I do a fair amount of recording of music off the net - therefore, I want that capability as well - but I gather most soundcards actually have that. I hope this is at least a little clear and if you have any suggestions, I certainly would appreciate it. Thanks again. Louise AFAIK every card I've owned have separate Mic and Line-In jacks. My SB Live and Audig2 do for sure. The problem seems to be Dragon only wanting to use the Mic port. Go into the Windows(not Creative) Sound Control Panel and see if you can select the mixer device you want to use, before running Dragon. I've not used a USB sound device but hopefully there will be 2. Does the pod show having a Mic port? I've read the post 6 time and I'm still not sure I understand exactly what's going on but I'll give some info that may help you experiment. Wave and MIDI are digital sound on the computers bus. All of the others are physical ports to the sound card. Analog mix are hardware ports and What You Hear is Analog Mix + Wave. It might help understanding if you could post a link for the pods website. Here's the link for the usb sound pod http://www.emicrophones.com/micropho...asp?prodID=003 The Creative control panel doesn't see the pod at all. But Windows control panel/sound can see the pod and the wndows recorder can accept dictation from the pod. Louise |
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"louise" wrote in message
... T Shadow wrote: "mc" wrote in message .. . One last thought. You can have 2 soundcards in the same computer and select between them in software. I know that Asus sound-on-the-motherbard and Sound Blaster Live 24 are compatible. "louise" wrote in message ... mc wrote: Can you tell me a little more precisely what it is that you need to do? I can probably help you figure it out. Thanks a lot - and thanks for your patience in reading the long description below. Audigy 2ZS card and Win XP Pro - Asus motherboard, P4, lots of memory and processor power. I have a handheld microphone which goes into an M Audio preamp (called Audio Buddy). This plugs into the "line in" jack. I would like to be able to also plug a headset/microphone directly into the soundcard or with a USB sound pod. The reason I want both is that I would like to be able to dictate from either the handheld through the line in, OR the headset microphone. I use Dragon Naturally Speaking speech recognition software. You have to create a new user (profile) for each dictation source used because you have to "train" the program to recognize your speech. The program will not recognize another input source other than the line in so that it will not allow me to create a second user with a different input source. The surround mixer does change the record input from the line mix to microphone but it still doesn't seem to have any effect upon the program's ability to recognize another input source. I tried using a USB sound pod for my second input source and the same thing happened. This did work in the Windows recorder but it did not work in Dragon NaturallySpeaking. It is very hard to get good tech support on this issue because the preamp isn't "supported" and the speech recognition people know nothing about it and simply say it is not supported. Creative doesn't really know a lot about Dragon NaturallySpeaking and perhaps not very much about the Audio Buddy either. There is some weird interaction between the Dragon software and the Creative software -- at least that's my latest theory. Even when I use the USB sound pod, the creative software is still loaded. Another piece of information if this would shed any light: whenever I start Dragon NaturallySpeaking, it automatically puts an X on the line-in. In other words, when you start the program, it sets itself up for microphone plugged into mic in jack. When I checked with their tech support, this is how the software is supposed to operate. So, whenever I do load the speech recognition software, I also have to go into the surround mixer and take the x out of the line in so that my present set up can work. The headset and the USB pod work perfectly on my portable, so I know that those two pieces of hardware are fine. I have also done a repair install of the Dragon software and it made no difference; I don't think the program installation is corrupted. Everyone I speak to who knows the Dragon software at all has a "hunch" that it has something to do with the fact that the sound card has a mix for the input and that it confuses the Dragon software setup.. But no one is sure. The other issue about "what u hear" is that I do a fair amount of recording of music off the net - therefore, I want that capability as well - but I gather most soundcards actually have that. I hope this is at least a little clear and if you have any suggestions, I certainly would appreciate it. Thanks again. Louise AFAIK every card I've owned have separate Mic and Line-In jacks. My SB Live and Audig2 do for sure. The problem seems to be Dragon only wanting to use the Mic port. Go into the Windows(not Creative) Sound Control Panel and see if you can select the mixer device you want to use, before running Dragon. I've not used a USB sound device but hopefully there will be 2. Does the pod show having a Mic port? I've read the post 6 time and I'm still not sure I understand exactly what's going on but I'll give some info that may help you experiment. Wave and MIDI are digital sound on the computers bus. All of the others are physical ports to the sound card. Analog mix are hardware ports and What You Hear is Analog Mix + Wave. It might help understanding if you could post a link for the pods website. Here's the link for the usb sound pod http://www.emicrophones.com/micropho...asp?prodID=003 The Creative control panel doesn't see the pod at all. But Windows control panel/sound can see the pod and the wndows recorder can accept dictation from the pod. Louise From: http://www.emicrophones.com/docdetai...?documentid=25 "When NatSpeaking loads, it scans available sound devices, finds the default you have stipulated for preferred devices, and sets up for 16-bit speech recognition PCM (Pulse-Coded Modulation) recording format" Looks like you need to set the pod to default in Windows "Sounds and Audio Devices Properties" Control Panel before running Dragon. I'd set it in the audio and Voice pages then click "use Only Default Devices" on the Audio page. Since your putting Dragon on a second computer can I assume you like it and find it useful? |
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T Shadow wrote:
"louise" wrote in message ... T Shadow wrote: "mc" wrote in message t... One last thought. You can have 2 soundcards in the same computer and select between them in software. I know that Asus sound-on-the-motherbard and Sound Blaster Live 24 are compatible. "louise" wrote in message ... mc wrote: Can you tell me a little more precisely what it is that you need to do? I can probably help you figure it out. Thanks a lot - and thanks for your patience in reading the long description below. Audigy 2ZS card and Win XP Pro - Asus motherboard, P4, lots of memory and processor power. I have a handheld microphone which goes into an M Audio preamp (called Audio Buddy). This plugs into the "line in" jack. I would like to be able to also plug a headset/microphone directly into the soundcard or with a USB sound pod. The reason I want both is that I would like to be able to dictate from either the handheld through the line in, OR the headset microphone. I use Dragon Naturally Speaking speech recognition software. You have to create a new user (profile) for each dictation source used because you have to "train" the program to recognize your speech. The program will not recognize another input source other than the line in so that it will not allow me to create a second user with a different input source. The surround mixer does change the record input from the line mix to microphone but it still doesn't seem to have any effect upon the program's ability to recognize another input source. I tried using a USB sound pod for my second input source and the same thing happened. This did work in the Windows recorder but it did not work in Dragon NaturallySpeaking. It is very hard to get good tech support on this issue because the preamp isn't "supported" and the speech recognition people know nothing about it and simply say it is not supported. Creative doesn't really know a lot about Dragon NaturallySpeaking and perhaps not very much about the Audio Buddy either. There is some weird interaction between the Dragon software and the Creative software -- at least that's my latest theory. Even when I use the USB sound pod, the creative software is still loaded. Another piece of information if this would shed any light: whenever I start Dragon NaturallySpeaking, it automatically puts an X on the line-in. In other words, when you start the program, it sets itself up for microphone plugged into mic in jack. When I checked with their tech support, this is how the software is supposed to operate. So, whenever I do load the speech recognition software, I also have to go into the surround mixer and take the x out of the line in so that my present set up can work. The headset and the USB pod work perfectly on my portable, so I know that those two pieces of hardware are fine. I have also done a repair install of the Dragon software and it made no difference; I don't think the program installation is corrupted. Everyone I speak to who knows the Dragon software at all has a "hunch" that it has something to do with the fact that the sound card has a mix for the input and that it confuses the Dragon software setup.. But no one is sure. The other issue about "what u hear" is that I do a fair amount of recording of music off the net - therefore, I want that capability as well - but I gather most soundcards actually have that. I hope this is at least a little clear and if you have any suggestions, I certainly would appreciate it. Thanks again. Louise AFAIK every card I've owned have separate Mic and Line-In jacks. My SB Live and Audig2 do for sure. The problem seems to be Dragon only wanting to use the Mic port. Go into the Windows(not Creative) Sound Control Panel and see if you can select the mixer device you want to use, before running Dragon. I've not used a USB sound device but hopefully there will be 2. Does the pod show having a Mic port? I've read the post 6 time and I'm still not sure I understand exactly what's going on but I'll give some info that may help you experiment. Wave and MIDI are digital sound on the computers bus. All of the others are physical ports to the sound card. Analog mix are hardware ports and What You Hear is Analog Mix + Wave. It might help understanding if you could post a link for the pods website. Here's the link for the usb sound pod http://www.emicrophones.com/micropho...asp?prodID=003 The Creative control panel doesn't see the pod at all. But Windows control panel/sound can see the pod and the wndows recorder can accept dictation from the pod. Louise From: http://www.emicrophones.com/docdetai...?documentid=25 "When NatSpeaking loads, it scans available sound devices, finds the default you have stipulated for preferred devices, and sets up for 16-bit speech recognition PCM (Pulse-Coded Modulation) recording format" Looks like you need to set the pod to default in Windows "Sounds and Audio Devices Properties" Control Panel before running Dragon. I'd set it in the audio and Voice pages then click "use Only Default Devices" on the Audio page. Since your putting Dragon on a second computer can I assume you like it and find it useful? thanks for that suggestion. I did make it the default, but I did not check "use only default devices". I'll try again :-) Yes, I do find Dragon very useful. Although I type very very quickly, I also need to create many pages a day and after a while, I get RSI. One does have to do some work to train it for your speech patterns and it does make ridiculous mistakes from time to time -- usually when you haven't enunciated well enough. If you're going to try it, I have one strong recommendation: do not use the included headset because it really isn't good enough and you lose a lot of accuracy that you could have if you got a more expensive headset or, a freestanding handheld microphone on a boom. I purchased the "Preferred" version; this is plenty good enough unless you really don't have use of your hands or do so much dictating that the creation of individual macros would be critical for you. Most people do not need the Audio Buddy that I use -- in fact, I am very much the exception and there's no need to figure that you would have to do that. It is because I have a somewhat hoarse and soft voice that I need the extra amplification. Thanks again and if you to get Dragon, check out Knowbrainer.com for a wonderful bulletin board filled with information about how to use the program and how to maximize it. Louise |
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separate line in jack ?
The Audigy 1, Audigy 2, Audigy 2 ZS and Audigy 4 Pro have separate
Microphone and Line In Jacks. The newer Audigy 4 ( non-Pro) and the Audigy 2 Value do not. The Live! 24 bit and the X-Fi don't either. "louise" wrote in message ... is there any creative card that would give me the option to record that also has a separate line in jack ? In other words, I want the "what u hear" capability -- the option to record what you're listening to, as well as a separate jack for the line in. If not, is there a comparable sound cardfrom another vendor that would provide both of these options? I need a good line in because I use speech recognition software with an MAudio preamp which feeds into the line in jack. TIA Louise |
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separate line in jack ?
"mc" wrote in message news "T Shadow" wrote in message ... AFAIK every card I've owned have separate Mic and Line-In jacks. My SB Live and Audig2 do for sure. Sound Blaster Live 24 does not; nor (probably) does Audigy. They started doubling up Line In with Mic when they needed more jacks for surround sound speakers. My Sound Blaster Live Digital has both line in and mic jacks. I checked on Audigy and it seems to have both also. The problem seems to be Dragon only wanting to use the Mic port. Go into the Windows(not Creative) Sound Control Panel and see if you can select the mixer device you want to use, before running Dragon. I've not used a USB sound device but hopefully there will be 2. Does the pod show having a Mic port? I've read the post 6 time and I'm still not sure I understand exactly what's going on but I'll give some info that may help you experiment. Wave and MIDI are digital sound on the computers bus. All of the others are physical ports to the sound card. Analog mix are hardware ports and What You Hear is Analog Mix + Wave. It might help understanding if you could post a link for the pods website. |
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