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  #31  
Old September 1st 04, 06:05 PM
Guy Fawkes
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like, who gives a **** what the owner believes in if the business he runs is
fair.

not me.

  #32  
Old September 1st 04, 06:14 PM
Geoff Winkless
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J S wrote:
"Rob S" wrote in message
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On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 11:23:43 +0100, "J S" wrote:

-Take a look at their forums. Search for posts from the owner of OC
UK. If
-you have ever ordered from them and are black, jewish or
homosexual, or in
-any way disapprove of hitlers policies or those of white supremacy
groups,
-you may possibly feel a little bit sick to the stomach for having
funded
-this company. I know I do. There are links direct to racist flash
videos on
-a neo-nazi white supremacy website used by the owner in his own
threads to
-support his views... a site which states:

Rather than state what someone may or may not have posted, can you
give actual
links to the actual website/postings from this person?


How about this?
http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/sho...eadid=17281051


Come on, show us the real postings, where he uses the nazi site " in his own
threads to
support his views... ".

If everyone who agrees with the view that too many people come to this
country claiming asylum who are actually economic migrants is counted as a
nazi then you'll find the current government is guilty. As are the Sun, the
Mirror, the BBC, the Mail (especially the Mail)...

Come on, show us the "links direct to racist flash videos". The one you
mention uses racial stereotypes to make a point, but that's not the same
thing.

Come on, show us what you claim or admit that you're full of ****.

Geoff


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Old September 1st 04, 06:46 PM
A clever name
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"J S" wrote in message
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Take a look at their forums. Search for posts from the owner of OC UK. If
you have ever ordered from them and are black, jewish or homosexual, or in
any way disapprove of hitlers policies or those of white supremacy groups,
you may possibly feel a little bit sick to the stomach for having funded
this company. I know I do. There are links direct to racist flash videos

on
a neo-nazi white supremacy website used by the owner in his own threads to
support his views... a site which states:

"There is no national dignity without the people believing in their race

and
nation above all else. No compromise over homosexuality. It should be made
illegal again and stiff penalties imposed on the "pink Mafia" now
infiltrating Society at all levels. Total opposition to Zionism and Israel
and all their supporters. "

I find this truly disgusting having ordered from them in the past, and

being
opposed to neo-nazism in all forms, and feel terrible for having parted

with
my cash to what is ostensibly a company with disgraceful views. Anybody

else
have views on this?



Nowhere in the post you refer to does Spie make any racist comment. Whilst
your quote is taken, I assume, from the website the flash originated from,
and looks to be the workings of someone who, to put it mildly, doesn't play
well with others, your assumption seems to be that because Spie posted a
link to a flash animation on that site, then he 'obviously' fully supports,
agrees and endorses the sites views. This assumption is a dangerous one to
make, as being concerned about the number of asylum seekers and illegal
immigrants coming into this country doesn't make you racist, it makes you a
citizen concerned about the state and welfare of the country as a whole.


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Old September 1st 04, 06:47 PM
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"aa" wrote in message
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I think it's fair to say the jewish, quaker and romany germans weren't
big on him.


Actually, there was a large Jewish support for Hitler.

Many people make the mistake of believing that Hitler was the architect of
the Final Solution. In actual fact, as with everything, it was a combination
of events that led to the institution of the Final Solution. Largely
distanced from reality and as his injuries (gained during the 1st World War)
as well as the stress of having to be seen to be leading took their toll
upon him, his cabinet (selected by him for their similar views) began to
press for further and more extreme measures. The problem there was that
there was no opposition within the cabinet and no real constraints. Add to
that the facts that (like today) the economic situation was grim (the
depression had started only a few years earlier) for which the government
was looking for people to blame (pretty much as the Tories and then Labour
blamed the unemployed and then single mothers for the countries woes) and
the fact that worldwide Jews, gypsies etc had very much fallen from favour
and it's possible to see a swing on the part of society not just in Germany
but internationally - against Jews and gypsies. All this combined and
centred most notably in Berlin. But don't make the mistake of thinking that
it was only a Nazi thing. The American and British governments were pretty
anti-semitic at the tme too. They neatly buried that and erased a lot from
the pages of history in their attempt to look whiter than white after the
war.

Place a group of people who believe mildly in something together, give them
power and distance them from society. Eventually the beliefs take over and
get more extreme. This was shown quite adequately when a US college
professor separated a group of students into prisoners and guards. The
guards became viscious and the prisoners suffered. This is an inherant trait
in people - not a specific person or a specific group.

--
Yours

Zebedee

(Claiming asylum in an attempt
to escape paying his debts to
Dougal and Florence)



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Old September 1st 04, 07:06 PM
Geoff
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J S wrote:
Take a look at their forums. Search for posts from the owner of OC
UK. If you have ever ordered from them and are black, jewish or
homosexual, or in any way disapprove of hitlers policies or those of
white supremacy groups, you may possibly feel a little bit sick to
the stomach for having funded this company. I know I do. There are
links direct to racist flash videos on a neo-nazi white supremacy
website used by the owner in his own threads to support his views...
a site which states:
"There is no national dignity without the people believing in their
race and nation above all else. No compromise over homosexuality. It
should be made illegal again and stiff penalties imposed on the "pink
Mafia" now infiltrating Society at all levels. Total opposition to
Zionism and Israel and all their supporters. "

I find this truly disgusting having ordered from them in the past,
and being opposed to neo-nazism in all forms, and feel terrible for
having parted with my cash to what is ostensibly a company with
disgraceful views. Anybody else have views on this?


thats very good

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/sho...eadid=17281051

Spie posts a link, and gives an opinion on the link

so ?
he isn't supporting them, ok i think his opinion is wrong, so what ?
unless they start ranting about 'white' power on their site, who cares, it's
just a discussion about politics basicly, hence the politics section on the
forum

now if you can come up with anything better, shut the hell up


  #39  
Old September 1st 04, 07:11 PM
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joe parkin wrote:

If you look close enough at companies and subsidiaries and their
suppliers, you would not have to go far before you come across you do
not agree with.


Quite so, even down to whether the MD makes donations to a particular
political party.

Parish
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Old September 1st 04, 07:13 PM
Parish
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David wrote:

Careful!

The thought police will have you blacked, err.... I mean whited, err......


Political Correctness rules OK! :-)

Parish
 




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