Tyan Radeon new card fault

Just out of interest, I just got a Tyan Tacheon G9600 Pro but I'm getting
some not so nice random pixelated glitches on my previously fine TFT screen
(works fine with my TNT2 agp card). Shame as otherwise it seems to work just
except this glitches. The FAN is working at the normal speed so its not
overheating according to the monitoring either.
I Guess it MUST be hardware.

I updated my AGP SIS chipset to latest, it seemed as if this made a
difference but i booted up my pc again and seem to getting the problem
again. (not sure if quite as bad as first time round).

Its going for return anyway but just wondered if anyone else has a similar
experience.

On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 21:59:35 +0100, "Tony"
wrote:

Just out of interest, I just got a Tyan Tacheon G9600 Pro but I'm getting
some not so nice random pixelated glitches on my previously fine TFT screen
(works fine with my TNT2 agp card). Shame as otherwise it seems to work just
except this glitches. The FAN is working at the normal speed so its not
overheating according to the monitoring either.
I Guess it MUST be hardware.

I updated my AGP SIS chipset to latest, it seemed as if this made a
difference but i booted up my pc again and seem to getting the problem
again. (not sure if quite as bad as first time round).

Its going for return anyway but just wondered if anyone else has a similar
experience.


get a geforce4 ti4200 for $75 (msi) and clock it to 4600 levels, beats
an FX 5600... the FX line sucks dick

Interesting thanks for your comment.
Out of interest there is the:-
Gainward Geforce4 Powerpack Ultra750-8x AGP 64MB DDR Ti4800 SE Chipset With
Tv-out
which at £59.95 ex vat is at least £40 cheaper than my board. Although I am
not sure if it supports 4x AGP of my board.
What do you think in comparison to the Radeon9600? (memory oc limitations
are a bit of a let down)
Mind you I have filled out my RMA form as an exchange basis, so Im not sure
if I can just change my mind but I could certainly try! Its a good supplier
so they may be accomodating.


get a geforce4 ti4200 for $75 (msi) and clock it to 4600 levels, beats
an FX 5600... the FX line sucks dick

not your card but another ti4800se...

http://www.vr-zone.com/reviews/Tripl...00SE/page5.htm

looks like the overclocked ti4200 performs a hair better than the
stock ti4800se, you can get a fair bit of OC mileage from the card...
IMO, you'll be happy with the card, but some say 64MB of memory is too
little, i personally dont think so...if you were playing at 1600x1200
32 bit it would but my 18" LCD doesnt go 1600x1200 so it isnt needed.



On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 19:02:05 +0100, "Tony"
wrote:

Interesting thanks for your comment.
Out of interest there is the:-
Gainward Geforce4 Powerpack Ultra750-8x AGP 64MB DDR Ti4800 SE Chipset With
Tv-out
which at £59.95 ex vat is at least £40 cheaper than my board. Although I am
not sure if it supports 4x AGP of my board.
What do you think in comparison to the Radeon9600? (memory oc limitations
are a bit of a let down)
Mind you I have filled out my RMA form as an exchange basis, so Im not sure
if I can just change my mind but I could certainly try! Its a good supplier
so they may be accomodating.

I wonder if Ti4200 offers features like the h/w monitoring of the
radeon 9600 (and its nice to be able to control fan speed etc)? Mind
you is there any point to this.
Also the gpu clock differences are quite different - 250Mhz vs 400Mhz.
Then there is the difference in memory with 64 vs 128 (not sure about
qualities or speed differences here but both 128 bit DDR I think) of
the ti vs the radeon 9600 pro.

The ti4200 650/8x tv out package I was looking at for £50 does not
offer much as a bundle, just the s-video out, mind you all the other
cables I saw in the Tyan Radeon package might not get used as I wasnt
intending to do much with video out etc!! (both come with WinDVD too).
There must be SOME advantage to shelling out what I have which is
almost double the cost of a ti4200 64Mb ?! I saw one site though, as
you say - shows FX figures are awful but in comparison the TI
indicated in tests to be quicker than the Radeon!!
It certainly seems popular card amonst those in the know, like
overclockers.

I think its possible there is some considerable saving to be made here
if I decided to have that on return basis instead.

If i was to let them return the same card, and that proved faulty
again I will definitely opt to the Gainward Ti.
SURELY someone must be able to argue some reason why its worth
spending the money on the radeon and that there is some benefit to
it??

Tony

On 18 Sep 2003 07:09:48 -0700, (Tony) wrote:

I wonder if Ti4200 offers features like the h/w monitoring of the
radeon 9600 (and its nice to be able to control fan speed etc)? Mind
you is there any point to this.
Also the gpu clock differences are quite different - 250Mhz vs 400Mhz.
Then there is the difference in memory with 64 vs 128 (not sure about
qualities or speed differences here but both 128 bit DDR I think) of
the ti vs the radeon 9600 pro.

The ti4200 650/8x tv out package I was looking at for £50 does not
offer much as a bundle, just the s-video out, mind you all the other
cables I saw in the Tyan Radeon package might not get used as I wasnt
intending to do much with video out etc!! (both come with WinDVD too).
There must be SOME advantage to shelling out what I have which is
almost double the cost of a ti4200 64Mb ?! I saw one site though, as
you say - shows FX figures are awful but in comparison the TI
indicated in tests to be quicker than the Radeon!!
It certainly seems popular card amonst those in the know, like
overclockers.

I think its possible there is some considerable saving to be made here
if I decided to have that on return basis instead.

If i was to let them return the same card, and that proved faulty
again I will definitely opt to the Gainward Ti.
SURELY someone must be able to argue some reason why its worth
spending the money on the radeon and that there is some benefit to
it??

Tony

the ati people say "ati has better visual quality", is the tiny
microscopic visual differences worth twice as much? i don't know...for
some reason i've never considered ATI to be a gaming card maker, it's
just never struck with me...maybe cause the last ati i used was an AIW
rage back in like 96'.....all the benchmarks i've seen show the ati's
behind by a fair bit, but people seem more than willing to trade off
performance for visual quality so it's a personal preference i guess.

btw there is a ti4200 128meg but it's memory is clocked at 444mhz or
so, a bit slower than the 64megger and it is usually slower ram as
well, the MSI 64meg uses 3.6ns memory chips by hynix clocked at 515mhz
or something, but i believe it is rated at 555mhz so you could up the
speed and not even be overclocking yet! there is another company, cant
recall the name but they make the same card but with 3.3ns memory, but
i think the card costs an arm and a leg so go for the MSI if you can.