How come my old Windows 98's DOS boots don't see my DVD-ROM driveanymore?

Hi!

Since I still have Toshiba DVD-ROM drive and it works in Windows XP,
shouldn't it work in DOS boot with its old oakcdrom.sys driver? Or did
my new MSI motherboard change the rules for using IDE CD/DVD-ROM drives?
CMOS sees the drive just fine under primary master (the only IDE drive
too) and running bootable CDs, but DOS boot doesn't see it. However,
Norton Ghost 2003 DOS can see it. Am I missing something else? It has
been a while since I used DOS boot with its CD support.

The reason why I asked is I wanted to upgrade its firmware to a newer
version that is supposedly can read DVD+RWs. Somehow, the updater
doesn't see any IDE drives. I was following
http://hijacker.rpc1.org/toshiba_nolimit/#Download instructions. And
it looks like DOS doesn't see the drive either. Ugh!

You can see http://alpha.zimage.com/~ant/antfarm.../computers.txt for
the primary computer specifications. Thank you in advance.
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Try XP DOS. A command prompt window, or boot into safe mode command prompt.


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If you have to boot from a floppy, XP can make a boot floppy when
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On 1/2/2009 5:57 AM PT, Ed Light typed:

If you have to boot from a floppy, XP can make a boot floppy when
formatting.

So I can't use my 3.5" Windows 98 boot disk and bootable PC-DOS?
Interesting. I will try XP's boot disk then.
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On 1/2/2009 11:41 AM PT, Ant typed:

If you have to boot from a floppy, XP can make a boot floppy when
formatting.

So I can't use my 3.5" Windows 98 boot disk and bootable PC-DOS?
Interesting. I will try XP's boot disk then.

So I tried again including XP Pro. SP3's bootable 3.5" disk (it made a
Windows ME boot disk). No go. Remember, I even tested DOS boot with
oakcdrom.sys and mscdex.exe. They didn't find my DVD-ROM drive either
which is WEIRD!!!

Someone suggested to try from Windows XP's boot CD for its recovery
console, but I can't run any executable files (update.bat, *.exe, and
*.com). Bah! What the heck?
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On 1/2/2009 5:28 AM PT, Ed Light typed:

Try XP DOS. A command prompt window, or boot into safe mode command prompt.

This won't work since it wants pure DOS. Remember, this drive (2001?)
and flash tool (2003) are old. Also, see
http://hijacker.rpc1.org/toshiba_nolimit/#Download ...
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On 1/2/2009 1:33 PM PT, Ant typed:

If you have to boot from a floppy, XP can make a boot floppy when
formatting.

So I can't use my 3.5" Windows 98 boot disk and bootable PC-DOS?
Interesting. I will try XP's boot disk then.

So I tried again including XP Pro. SP3's bootable 3.5" disk (it made a
Windows ME boot disk). No go. Remember, I even tested DOS boot with
oakcdrom.sys and mscdex.exe. They didn't find my DVD-ROM drive either
which is WEIRD!!!

Someone suggested to try from Windows XP's boot CD for its recovery
console, but I can't run any executable files (update.bat, *.exe, and
*.com). Bah! What the heck?

I tested that 3.5" disk in VMware v4.5.3 on the same PC and it was fine:
http://img73.imageshack.us/img73/935...kwithoasq7.gif ...
Of course, it wasn't the same hardware (e.g., motherboard and drives).
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http://forum.msi.com.tw/index.php?topic=122897.0

IDE controller on the mobo.! I got its driver to work, but the old
DVD-ROM firmware upgrader still doesn't see the drive. Damnit.


On 1/2/2009 4:40 AM PT, Ant typed:

Hi!

Since I still have Toshiba DVD-ROM drive and it works in Windows XP,
shouldn't it work in DOS boot with its old oakcdrom.sys driver? Or did
my new MSI motherboard change the rules for using IDE CD/DVD-ROM drives?
CMOS sees the drive just fine under primary master (the only IDE drive
too) and running bootable CDs, but DOS boot doesn't see it. However,
Norton Ghost 2003 DOS can see it. Am I missing something else? It has
been a while since I used DOS boot with its CD support.

The reason why I asked is I wanted to upgrade its firmware to a newer
version that is supposedly can read DVD+RWs. Somehow, the updater
doesn't see any IDE drives. I was following
http://hijacker.rpc1.org/toshiba_nolimit/#Download instructions. And
it looks like DOS doesn't see the drive either. Ugh!

You can see http://alpha.zimage.com/~ant/antfarm.../computers.txt for
the primary computer specifications. Thank you in advance.
--
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a dish best served cold. I'll bide my time until... Oh, what the hell,
I'll just crush him like an ant." --Mr. Burns, The Simpsons ("Blood
Feud" Episode 7F22)
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Ant is currently not listening to any songs on his home computer.

I've run out of ideas. Maybe a DOS driver guru is reading this thread.

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On 1/2/2009 3:06 PM PT, Ed Light typed:

I've run out of ideas. Maybe a DOS driver guru is reading this thread.

See my 3:01 PM PST post. It was a DOS driver issue.
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