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Concerning HD Sentinel
I know some use HD Sentinel here. Something in Windows 7 keeps changing
the registry and switching off the ability to show HDD performance. The key is HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Perfdisk\Performance\disable performance counters and its default is 1 (disable) and every day I have to reset it to zero. Any idea why this value will not stick? -- Robin Bignall Herts, England |
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On 23/12/2012 11:31 AM, Robin Bignall wrote:
I know some use HD Sentinel here. Something in Windows 7 keeps changing the registry and switching off the ability to show HDD performance. The key is HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Perfdisk\Performance\disable performance counters and its default is 1 (disable) and every day I have to reset it to zero. Any idea why this value will not stick? Weird, have you contacted the HD Sentinel author? Yousuf Khan |
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On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 16:31:32 +0000, Robin Bignall
wrote: I know some use HD Sentinel here. Something in Windows 7 keeps changing the registry and switching off the ability to show HDD performance. The key is HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Servi ces\Perfdisk\Performance\disable performance counters and its default is 1 (disable) and every day I have to reset it to zero. Any idea why this value will not stick? My setting is the same. However, I'm not sure what "performance" you're looking at. Do you mean under the tab Disk Performance? Under that tab I get a message that real time performance monitoring is not supported on this disk, and I get that for all my disks. Or do you mean the graphic under the General tab that incidates performance is 100% and Excellent. FWIW, my system is Win 7 Pro, 64 bit. |
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On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 12:04:48 -0600, Charlie Hoffpauir
wrote: On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 16:31:32 +0000, Robin Bignall wrote: I know some use HD Sentinel here. Something in Windows 7 keeps changing the registry and switching off the ability to show HDD performance. The key is HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Serv ices\Perfdisk\Performance\disable performance counters and its default is 1 (disable) and every day I have to reset it to zero. Any idea why this value will not stick? My setting is the same. However, I'm not sure what "performance" you're looking at. Do you mean under the tab Disk Performance? Under that tab I get a message that real time performance monitoring is not supported on this disk, and I get that for all my disks. This is what I mean, and yes, it IS supported, but it's not activated in Win 7. Under Disk Performance You should see a URL that eventually leads you to this (It's in the help as well) http://www.hdsentinel.com/faq.php#perf It tells you how to set the counters on. Or do you mean the graphic under the General tab that incidates performance is 100% and Excellent. FWIW, my system is Win 7 Pro, 64 bit. -- Robin Bignall Herts, England |
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On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 12:36:27 -0500, Yousuf Khan
wrote: On 23/12/2012 11:31 AM, Robin Bignall wrote: I know some use HD Sentinel here. Something in Windows 7 keeps changing the registry and switching off the ability to show HDD performance. The key is HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Perfdisk\Performance\disable performance counters and its default is 1 (disable) and every day I have to reset it to zero. Any idea why this value will not stick? Weird, have you contacted the HD Sentinel author? It never occurred to me. If it's switched off, HDS provides a URL http://www.hdsentinel.com/faq.php#perf that tells you how to set it on again, by using the diskperf command and, if necessary, switching it on in the registry. In order to have it permanently on you can remove the 'disable' line item from the registry completely. This I have done, but rebooting puts it back again. I never heard that Windows 7 changes its registry like this, and if it does, there's little the HDS author can do about it. This is weird! -- Robin Bignall Herts, England |
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"Robin Bignall" wrote:
I know some use HD Sentinel here. Something in Windows 7 keeps changing the registry and switching off the ability to show HDD performance. The key is HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Perfdisk\Performance\disable performance counters and its default is 1 (disable) and every day I have to reset it to zero. Any idea why this value will not stick? Haven't use HDS. When you run PerfMon (perfmon.msc) and right-click on the graph pane to add counters, do you get any results when you enable counters under the PhysicalDisk category? The FAQ you mention refers to http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../aa998009.aspx (which discusses server editions of Windows) and mentions using PerfMon to check if the OS can detect those counters (which is what I mentioned). If PerfMon can't detect the counters then HDS won't, either. Is the Performance Log and Alerts not Disabled (i.e., set to Manual)? Is the WMI service set to Automatic start and currently running. As I recall, WMI is one method of accessing performance counter data. HDS doesn't say if it uses raw mode or WMI. Is this for internal HDDs (going to the motherboard controllers or to a daughtercard)? Or for external HDDs via USB? Is this a RAID setup? How old are the HDDs? SATA or IDE (and if IDE then did you *not* use cable select)? Exctrlst.exe: Extensible Performance Counter List http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l...8WS.10%29.aspx found in the Resource Kit (Windows 2000 should do for you) available separately at: ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/ResKit/win2000/ or you can get it as part of the Windows XP SP-2 Support Tools package at: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/downl....aspx?id=18546 If you sort by Services, you should see PerfDisk listed. When you select PerfDisk, the "Performance Counters Enabled" option should be checked (enabled). You never mentioned WHICH edition of HDS that you have. If the free (trial) version, doesn't it disable or cripple itself after 30 days? If you paid for it then why aren't you asking their support crew for help? They have forums at http://www.hdsentinel.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=3. To contact them, see http://www.hdsentinel.com/about.php. |
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On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 16:15:56 -0600, VanguardLH wrote:
"Robin Bignall" wrote: I know some use HD Sentinel here. Something in Windows 7 keeps changing the registry and switching off the ability to show HDD performance. The key is HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Servic es\Perfdisk\Performance\disable performance counters and its default is 1 (disable) and every day I have to reset it to zero. Any idea why this value will not stick? Haven't use HDS. When you run PerfMon (perfmon.msc) and right-click on the graph pane to add counters, do you get any results when you enable counters under the PhysicalDisk category? YES. The FAQ you mention refers to http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../aa998009.aspx (which discusses server editions of Windows) and mentions using PerfMon to check if the OS can detect those counters (which is what I mentioned). If PerfMon can't detect the counters then HDS won't, either. Yes it can. Is the Performance Log and Alerts not Disabled (i.e., set to Manual)? Is the WMI service set to Automatic start and currently running. As I recall, WMI is one method of accessing performance counter data. HDS doesn't say if it uses raw mode or WMI. WMI is automatic. Is this for internal HDDs (going to the motherboard controllers or to a daughtercard)? Or for external HDDs via USB? Is this a RAID setup? How old are the HDDs? SATA or IDE (and if IDE then did you *not* use cable select)? Internal, SSD and HDD. Performance of USB disks cannot be shown. Exctrlst.exe: Extensible Performance Counter List http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l...8WS.10%29.aspx found in the Resource Kit (Windows 2000 should do for you) available separately at: ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/ResKit/win2000/ or you can get it as part of the Windows XP SP-2 Support Tools package at: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/downl....aspx?id=18546 If you sort by Services, you should see PerfDisk listed. When you select PerfDisk, the "Performance Counters Enabled" option should be checked (enabled). You never mentioned WHICH edition of HDS that you have. If the free (trial) version, doesn't it disable or cripple itself after 30 days? If you paid for it then why aren't you asking their support crew for help? They have forums at http://www.hdsentinel.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=3. To contact them, see http://www.hdsentinel.com/about.php. I'll try the support forums, but this is weirder than I thought. When that registry entry I mentioned is set to 0 or removed completely, HDS Pro shows performance data perfectly for internal disks. OK. Tonight, I *hibernated* the PC while I had my dinner. When I restarted, Windows somehow had *replaced* that registry key and set it back to "disabled". I thought registry changes are permanent. How in hell is that happening? -- Robin Bignall Herts, England |
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"Robin Bignall" wrote:
VanguardLH wrote: Is the WMI service set to Automatic start and currently running? WMI is automatic. But is it running? If not, can you manually start it? Is this for internal HDDs (going to the motherboard controllers or to a daughtercard)? Or for external HDDs via USB? Is this a RAID setup? How old are the HDDs? SATA or IDE (and if IDE then did you *not* use cable select)? Internal, SSD and HDD. Performance of USB disks cannot be shown. Does that mean the internal (SSD and HDD) do show performance data so it's just the external USB-connected HDD that does not? HDS' FAQ mentions why USB-connected drives won't present performance data. If the HDD is old then it won't have performance data to retrieve. This is noted in the HDS FAQ. When that registry entry I mentioned is set to 0 or removed completely, HDS Pro shows performance data perfectly for internal disks. OK. Tonight, I *hibernated* the PC while I had my dinner. When I restarted, Windows somehow had *replaced* that registry key and set it back to "disabled". Same thing happen when you put the computer into Standby power mode (instead of hibernate which removes power)? Are you seeing any WMI/WinMgmt errors in the Event Viewer? I thought registry changes are permanent. How in hell is that happening? They are permanent until something else changes them. You could try using SysInternals' ProcMon to monitor that registry key to see what changes data items under it. It that doesn't help to troubleshoot to the culprit making the change, you could right-click on that registry key and change permissions (to remove yourself, Everyone, and all others [except System if it's assigned privileges]). The PerfDisk under the CurrentVersion\Services key is a service but not listed by services.msc or sc.exe probably because it is started by one of the other listed services, like WinMgmt. According to http://support.microsoft.com/kb/266416, you can run "winmgmt /resyncperf" or with the /clearadap switch. It's also possible there is a registration error for the PerfDisk service so you have to use the /unregserver switch and then the /regserver switch. You should save an image backup beforehand. As asked before, did you check if exctrlst.exe showed the various Physical Disk counters as enabled for data collection? |
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I'll try the support forums, but this is weirder than I thought. When that registry entry I mentioned is set to 0 or removed completely, HDS Pro shows performance data perfectly for internal disks. OK. Tonight, I *hibernated* the PC while I had my dinner. When I restarted, Windows somehow had *replaced* that registry key and set it back to "disabled". I thought registry changes are permanent. How in hell is that happening? As a test try disabling all anti-spyware and anti-virus programs and see if the registry problems go away. Some of them have been known to try and protect the registry and might just be trying to "fix" things in the background on you. |
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On 23/12/2012 2:16 PM, Robin Bignall wrote:
On Sun, 23 Dec 2012 12:36:27 -0500, Yousuf Khan Weird, have you contacted the HD Sentinel author? It never occurred to me. If it's switched off, HDS provides a URL http://www.hdsentinel.com/faq.php#perf that tells you how to set it on again, by using the diskperf command and, if necessary, switching it on in the registry. In order to have it permanently on you can remove the 'disable' line item from the registry completely. This I have done, but rebooting puts it back again. I never heard that Windows 7 changes its registry like this, and if it does, there's little the HDS author can do about it. This is weird! The reason I said to contact the HD Sentinel author, Janos, is that he hears a lot of weird stories like this, and he might know what's causing this to happen, not necessarily that it's HD Sentinel that's causing this (which I doubt that it is). Yousuf Khan |
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